It's getting harder and harder for me to keep up with the names of the characters... I hope there aren't many more of them.

Who needs names? Main Character with Brown Hair, Main Character with Black Hair - doing this makes it so much easier.

(400 posts, unless I go on another self-loathing delete rampage. Get's more shocking that I'm not banned every time.)

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I shall know this "oppa" guy from now on as Dude Who Needs Many Face Punches.

Personally, I direct the punches somewhere... else.

Oh, of course, sorry.

Trafi, of course someone has the right to comment on the quality of something as they perceive it. When I said it was trash I meant that I don't find value in it. That's all.

To ME, the manga was worthless. When I said trash I didn't mean that everyone should find it so. If it puts you at ease, just swap trash with a more agreeable descriptor.

I know what lolicon stems from (as Thiaguinho-sama actually explained shortly after this post) but where does the "shota" in shotacon come from? I've never even thought about it until just now.

• Shotacon = is a Japanese slang portmanteau of the phrase Shotaro complex, is a reference to the young male character Shotaro from Tetsujin 28-go (reworked in English as Gigantor).

Thanks wikipedia! ins't that cheating...?

Regardless of whether it's cheating, I have to give you credit for getting past Bulbapedia.

Well that was nice.

Shocked that I'm not sad though, after checking the author.

I honestly wouldn't have said anything against what you're saying if not for the overly strong statement at the end. Maybe it didn't interest you but, i don't know, it's natural to me that you don't go around calling things trash because you didn't like it.

Does it seem overly strong to you? If it does I aplogise (I've done that a lot recently. Am I... am I turning into Clegg?), to me trash is just a word used subjectively to describe something which I may not find of worth, however that doesn't mean I believe that no other can find worth in it. Hence not universally trash. There's a saying for that I believe.

Well Trafi, when I say trash I do so subjectively. I can completely get that you like it, however personally when I judge it against the three things I care for most outside of yuri (which of course transcends regular judgement because of it's awesomeness) it fares poorly for me. This is keeping in mind that it was one of my first manga, and before I much cared for yuri, so that didn't really influence my opinion of it. Also, I accept that I may not remember it entirely accurately.

First, the world is uninteresting to me. this for me can really be influential in my opinion, which is why I like Tolkien's stuff so much: the mangaka didn't seem to much care for the world itself, as there was little that had me interested or made me want to explore it more. Contrast to Tolkien whose work was his world, and it comes of poorly. This though doesn't really go towards me calling it trash, because I accept the author just had different priorities than me, and at least Zero expanded it, but the manga can't take credit for that.

Next are the characters. Hardly anything about them makes them stand out as interesting to me. I mean, Kensuke (I think that was his name) seemed superfluous to the plot, existing mostly to end up with the girl at the end. Noriyuki (I think that was his name... again, last read a while ago) was... perverted. And that was basically all there was to his character except for some last minute reviles as far as I remember, which was that he loved Yomi so they could hook up in spirit form. Kagura had her best development in the anime. So did Yomi. Hardly anyone else sticks out in my memory, and those that do weren't anything special. This is really bad, because even Naruto had characters I could like. Kakashi consistently interested me, and plenty of side characters were intriguing too. Unless Kishimoto tried t develop them. He mostly ruined them then. Again, Zero added so many more characters that were fun to watch, as well as making others in the manga more interesting. Except Noriyuki (?). He was still just pervert. And so is his character.

All this lead to a lifeless plot. There was nothing to draw me into it. I had no interest in the plot until after I had read it, because Zero made me interested in the conclusion of it's characters. An unsatisfying one at that. So as a standalone, the manga had nothing for it.

Contrasted to the anime which had an interesting tale to tell in an interesting place with interesting people, and to me, it makes the manga look like trash. Not universally trash, but to me trash none the less. Maybe you would put some of this down to the manga intentionally exaggerating cliche, but that doesn't make something good to me.

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^ I think I read the comment above mine as love fucking.

Pity the manga was trash. But still loved the anime.

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I assume you're related?

I have to disagree with all the Jin praise.

I have feelings, and she should be in jail for what she did to them.

You know, I've only got about 660 hours on EUIV, so I'm not an expert, but it still shocks me when you back up your ally in a war, attack their weaker ally because they can't join, have the first war end earlier than expected so your ally attacks you, win that war and arrange a royal marriage with your old ally, planning to re-ally them the next month.

And then they rival you.

I just don't get it. I'm hugely stronger than them, they have only crappy allies and I supported their independence. Literally the day before we were friendly.

WHY STRAIGHT AFTER THE RM?

I'm done.

Have you seen this?

Eesh. At the Bernabeu, I hope not.

Every so often Ed Miliband can be found doing something other than feasting on the blood of small children. Doesn't mean he did he for his dinner.

I don't actually hate Ranaldo, but he played for the mancs and Real, and as a Liverpool fan I cannot like him by law. And hating is fun.

If it happens I'm buying a ticket to Barcelona and partying at the Nou Camp. I'll mind my company though, so I come back in one piece.

I heard $180000000.

Lol what's so bad about or Ronaldo huh? Let's see what happens at Madrid next week =p

You mean there's stuff that isn't bad about Ronaldo?

Juve to win 4-0, you heard it here first.

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I love how ~90% of the comments there are about touhou and not the actual content of the interview.

There was an interview?

volume and chapter 5, Guitar with you.

That moment you realise Houbunsha officially published a K-On! fanwork where Ui gets fingered by her sister

In which chapter that happens? I don't remember that...

Because she was the guitar in this I believe. Fingering her fret board.

Aaaaah of course, thanks ChocolateCakeLover, didn't remember that part, it's been some time since I read it.

Actually I think the Ah aaah at the end was her getting fingered as a human, because Yui thought she was Gutah.

So... Fingered twice in one manga, as two different things.

GG

That moment you realise Houbunsha officially published a K-On! fanwork where Ui gets fingered by her sister

In which chapter that happens? I don't remember that...

Because she was the guitar in this I believe. Fingering her fret board.

Something about Keiko's eyes have always disturbed me... Does any one else think they seem evil?

Kind of like a snake.

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Don't you ever sleep?

I do in irregular intervals.

So cat naps?

Yes. Exactly like cat naps. Focused around trying to post on Dynasty as much as possible.

To be honest, I'm trying to win as many awards as I can.

• Most annoying poster
• Most threads derailed
• If Dynasty had a death penalty, most likely to receive

Amoungst others.

Don't you ever sleep?

I do in irregular intervals.

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SOFTCHARM

You know, this doesn't suprise me. But I wish it did.

I will do. I've been catching up on the original Yu-gi-oh for about three years now, and I'm just starting the Dawn of the Duel arc.

So it may take a while. But some day.

3 years? are you not skipping the bad episodes? also I can assume you'll watch GX, 5ds and Zexal?.....you should start skipping, a lot episodes feel like filler and GX is the worst offender having actual filler. Dawn of the duel has a lot of story so you may/may not be able to skip any. Anyway you can watch Arc-v no problem although it is getting a lot of 5ds references/fan-service right now.

I am a completionist. No skipping.

My main problem is just sitting down and watching something. Mind wonders too easily these days. Whenever I get in the mood, I get through a ton so hopefully I'll do that soon, and I'll keep doing it 'till I'm caught up.

Just here to interrupt talk about Arc-v again......good...why did I ever doubt you!?
oh and
long analysis spoilers
As soon as I saw "the city" I realized this is NOT the place from 5ds, heck there 0 evidence that Yusei even existed(so far anyway). This is really f***ing interesting I thought they were going to ruin the timeline by saying 5ds and Zexal or even GX took place in a different dimension. Also even more to points Arc-v for having characters with realistic human emotions. Now just make my ships canon and I'll buy the blu-rays +make decks irl. Why did I even write this here? is anyone here watching Arc-v?

I will do. I've been catching up on the original Yu-gi-oh for about three years now, and I'm just starting the Dawn of the Duel arc.

So it may take a while. But some day.