Pity the manga was trash. But still loved the anime.
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Falleax
May 7, 2015 12:54AM
Romantic or not, Pocky in the shower seems like a bad idea.
ari-chan
May 7, 2015 1:20AM
Even before I was into yuri, that pocky scene in the anime... one of my favorites. ;)
That drip of "water" between their legs though
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trafi
May 7, 2015 2:09AM
@ChocolateCakeLover
Trash ? I didn't watch the anime and sure the author have a unusual style that might not please everyone but it certainly isn't trash. I personally find this author stuff awesome
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User1
May 7, 2015 3:03AM
One does not simply eat pocky while taking a shower.
Purple Library Guy
May 7, 2015 3:41AM
By the time you're clinching in the shower, isn't it a little late in the day for flirting with pocky?
Gorgeous tho.
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GrimEater
May 7, 2015 4:33AM
the Anime was a troll
Rye
May 7, 2015 4:48AM
Did not watch the anime but I saw the pocky scene on youtube...its nice. Anyway this is pretty cool!
biteme
May 7, 2015 5:37AM
Even the manga being a trash we had some good moments there, I like them, wish there was more doujins of them
[deleted]
May 7, 2015 9:45AM
Hey maybe Kagura was taking a shower alone when suddenly Yomi appeared out of nowhere with that pocky stick and forced it into her! XD
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kickap00
May 7, 2015 2:43PM
YOMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ;-;
[deleted]
May 7, 2015 4:07PM
YES! These two~ <3
Demon Beast
May 7, 2015 4:20PM
Ambush little sister in shower under pretext of wanting to share a pocky and have hot lesbian sex after?
Yep. Sounds about right.
Anubis3200
May 7, 2015 4:24PM
@trafi "I didn't watch the anime" and that is why you don't understand us. I watched anime first, loved it. Got excited for manga, felt weird after 1st chapter and then abandoned it after scrolling through. I could care less about art style, STORY! That's what bothered me! It completely killed Kagura/Yomi relationship for me. For most part it looked like Kagura didn't even care.
Yomi didn't act like herself either. Like yes she is evil spirit but she was evil in anime too and yet they felt like 2 different characters.
trafi
May 7, 2015 4:53PM
^ first thing, the manga came first, if people who've seen the anime have a problem with the adaptation, it's not the manga's fault. No need to call it trash. The anime is the adaptation not the opposite.
And anyway, of course course the characters are different, time passed. Yomi is as good as dead, she's no more than a manipulated shadow of what she was in the past and Kagura grew up meanwhile. In the manga there no Kagura/Yomi relationship because there is no more Yomi, that's all. And I don't know where you've seen Kagura not care about Yomi...
Ps : When I was talking about style I meant story telling style, not just art. This author's stories and pace in the stories are all really unusual
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So1For
May 7, 2015 5:46PM
I just finished to see this anime and O.M.G... I cried all night beceause it was so so so~ daaaaamn saaaaaaad T_T
I really like to see them together
kagakujinjya
May 7, 2015 11:04PM
^ first thing, the manga came first, if people who've seen the anime have a problem with the adaptation, it's not the manga's fault. No need to call it trash. The anime is the adaptation not the opposite.
Most people, including I, are just disappointed about shounen cliche the manga was because the anime was a very decidedly awesome seinen thing, and it is awesome even if you take all the yuri stuff out. that was how awesome the anime was. Which, compared to the awesome-backflip-running-scooter-totally-not-scientifically-impossible-intact-teeth-after-high-impact kiss scene in that first chapter, felt like an insult.
When you say shonen cliche or "insult", it seems like you didn't paid any attention to the manga... a large part author style is to exaggerate shounen cliche and make it the sillier he can. I don't see how the manga itself is cliche...
Honestly, I don't care if people don't like, think the characters are different or are disappointed when they see the manga, I've been myself in case in which I just couldn't bring myself to like an adaptation or the original of something but it piss me off when people denigrate without even having really tried the thing or watched the thing without bias.
As a shounen, Ga-rei is as great and maybe original as people says the anime is as a seinen.
And one more time, the anime is the adaptation... how can the manga be an insult, it's the anime that went different than the manga.
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ChocolateCakeLover
May 8, 2015 2:46PM
Well Trafi, when I say trash I do so subjectively. I can completely get that you like it, however personally when I judge it against the three things I care for most outside of yuri (which of course transcends regular judgement because of it's awesomeness) it fares poorly for me. This is keeping in mind that it was one of my first manga, and before I much cared for yuri, so that didn't really influence my opinion of it. Also, I accept that I may not remember it entirely accurately.
First, the world is uninteresting to me. this for me can really be influential in my opinion, which is why I like Tolkien's stuff so much: the mangaka didn't seem to much care for the world itself, as there was little that had me interested or made me want to explore it more. Contrast to Tolkien whose work was his world, and it comes of poorly. This though doesn't really go towards me calling it trash, because I accept the author just had different priorities than me, and at least Zero expanded it, but the manga can't take credit for that.
Next are the characters. Hardly anything about them makes them stand out as interesting to me. I mean, Kensuke (I think that was his name) seemed superfluous to the plot, existing mostly to end up with the girl at the end. Noriyuki (I think that was his name... again, last read a while ago) was... perverted. And that was basically all there was to his character except for some last minute reviles as far as I remember, which was that he loved Yomi so they could hook up in spirit form. Kagura had her best development in the anime. So did Yomi. Hardly anyone else sticks out in my memory, and those that do weren't anything special. This is really bad, because even Naruto had characters I could like. Kakashi consistently interested me, and plenty of side characters were intriguing too. Unless Kishimoto tried t develop them. He mostly ruined them then. Again, Zero added so many more characters that were fun to watch, as well as making others in the manga more interesting. Except Noriyuki (?). He was still just pervert. And so is his character.
All this lead to a lifeless plot. There was nothing to draw me into it. I had no interest in the plot until after I had read it, because Zero made me interested in the conclusion of it's characters. An unsatisfying one at that. So as a standalone, the manga had nothing for it.
Contrasted to the anime which had an interesting tale to tell in an interesting place with interesting people, and to me, it makes the manga look like trash. Not universally trash, but to me trash none the less. Maybe you would put some of this down to the manga intentionally exaggerating cliche, but that doesn't make something good to me.
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trafi
May 8, 2015 2:58PM
I honestly wouldn't have said anything against what you're saying if not for the overly strong statement at the end. Maybe it didn't interest you but, i don't know, it's natural to me that you don't go around calling things trash because you didn't like it.
I personally don't search for big and deep universe and characters when I read it, I see it more like a comic, silly and high paced light parody of a shounen. I like the silliness of the manga.
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Evilnemesis
May 8, 2015 3:08PM
Well Trafi, if you don't like something you throw it in the garbage bin do you not? Literally trash! Same principle applies here, but I think the word trash in the internet has taken a more harsh meaning and that's why people flip their shit. But "trash" only means something that is broken, not interesting or useful to the person in question.
trafi
May 8, 2015 3:27PM
I don't know but I see it as pretty harsh. It may be different in english but use the equivalent in my language to qualify something that isn't literal trash and it means something that doesn't even merit to exist, be used and in this case to be read. Something that you should throw away immediately.
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Nezchan
May 8, 2015 3:29PM
Uh, no. I've been using English all my life, probably a lot longer than most of you, and calling something "trash" has been used as "without redeeming qualities" and as a definitely harsh condemnation of poor quality all that time. It's much heavier than "I don't like it".
Evilnemesis
May 8, 2015 3:41PM
Maybe it depends on a person's trashing habbits ? I know someone that hates cleaning up so most often then not he trashes things that are not suppose to get trashed. He's even trashed work related stuff plenty of time, even more lazy than I am! Pretty much everything to him is trash even the important stuff.
Anubis3200
May 8, 2015 6:48PM
Anime is a prequel to the manga. I always tended to like manga more than anime for obvious reasons. Anime tends to cut lots of stuff, ignore development, add pointless fillers and etc. Ga-Rei is the first and only exception for me.
When Anime original is better than manga, there clearly is a problem with the manga. Love it all you want but I'll never touch it again. Tried more than once and looked through various chapters. Just big, fat NO. Even the world doesn't seem to be the same between the two.
You never even bothered with anime so duno by what right you are actually judging our taste. There is no obligation for us to love the manga be it released first or not. Just because something was released first does not mean it's better.
trafi
May 9, 2015 2:11AM
I'm not judging your taste I'm judging the right you have to make statement about the manga's quality when the reason you don't like it is the differences that the anime created.
There is no "problem" with manga aside from those you created yourself (expectation and bias). The two have different style so of course you can like one and not the other. It doesn't mean the one you don't like have a "problem"
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KJacket
May 9, 2015 7:04AM
I read the manga first, and in all honesty all I can say is that they are different - aside from the fact that the anime was supposed to be the prequel. Of course, being a sucker for yuri made the anime better for me than the manga did but I did enjoy the manga in a different way before the anime came out. They're almost two separate stories to me, or sort of an AU like feel.
@Anubis3200 gotta agree with manga is usually better for those reasons, not sure if Ga-rei was the only anime better for me but it certainly is an example.
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FlameHazeKatsu
May 9, 2015 8:40AM
Well, this two, the saddest ending ever. T_T but well, in here glad someone made this! XD
ChocolateCakeLover
May 9, 2015 1:53PM
Trafi, of course someone has the right to comment on the quality of something as they perceive it. When I said it was trash I meant that I don't find value in it. That's all.
To ME, the manga was worthless. When I said trash I didn't mean that everyone should find it so. If it puts you at ease, just swap trash with a more agreeable descriptor.
trafi
May 9, 2015 2:05PM
Don't worry, i totally understood the misunderstanding and what you were trying to say. Here I was speaking to Anubis who looks like didn't mean the same as you and also misunderstood what my point was.
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ChocolateCakeLover
May 9, 2015 2:06PM
Oh, of course, sorry.
[deleted]
May 12, 2015 3:19PM
sexy and depressing
Azur
May 31, 2015 10:56PM
Omg love this anime I was upset about the ending tho there should be another season
ChocolateCakeLover
May 31, 2015 10:57PM
If you scroll up, you will find me and trafi debating whether the manga was any good. The manga 'follows' the anime.
vempriex
Aug 20, 2015 11:56PM
Yomi!! Damn very "perked" nips **coughs*
AshuraX
Nov 2, 2015 12:39PM
Internet:
The only place where a picture of two girls making out in the shower can lead to a debate about what is trash and what is not.
Zetsu
Jan 27, 2016 2:26AM
Damn they were meant to be together :) but it was a great anime can't get over the death of kagura yet T_T
YayaSamuko
Jul 31, 2017 4:30AM
Dropped the anime at episode 5 but hey! Still nice pairing!
Also, I really love shower scene where the girls play pocky and end up eating more than the pocky itself winkwink
yuri n wine
Oct 24, 2018 1:43PM
Beautiful
Also, Yomi is resurrected as a spirit in the manga. The anime is a prequel
Jay2J May 6, 2015 11:27PM
I loved this anime.
ChocolateCakeLover May 6, 2015 11:29PM
Pity the manga was trash. But still loved the anime.
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Falleax May 7, 2015 12:54AM
Romantic or not, Pocky in the shower seems like a bad idea.
ari-chan May 7, 2015 1:20AM
Even before I was into yuri, that pocky scene in the anime... one of my favorites. ;)
That drip of "water" between their legs though
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trafi May 7, 2015 2:09AM
@ChocolateCakeLover
Trash ? I didn't watch the anime and sure the author have a unusual style that might not please everyone but it certainly isn't trash. I personally find this author stuff awesome
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User1 May 7, 2015 3:03AM
One does not simply eat pocky while taking a shower.
Purple Library Guy May 7, 2015 3:41AM
By the time you're clinching in the shower, isn't it a little late in the day for flirting with pocky?
Gorgeous tho.
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GrimEater May 7, 2015 4:33AM
the Anime was a troll
Rye May 7, 2015 4:48AM
Did not watch the anime but I saw the pocky scene on youtube...its nice. Anyway this is pretty cool!
biteme May 7, 2015 5:37AM
Even the manga being a trash we had some good moments there, I like them, wish there was more doujins of them
[deleted] May 7, 2015 9:45AM
Hey maybe Kagura was taking a shower alone when suddenly Yomi appeared out of nowhere with that pocky stick and forced it into her! XD
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kickap00 May 7, 2015 2:43PM
YOMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ;-;
[deleted] May 7, 2015 4:07PM
YES! These two~ <3
Demon Beast May 7, 2015 4:20PM
Ambush little sister in shower under pretext of wanting to share a pocky and have hot lesbian sex after?
Yep. Sounds about right.
Anubis3200 May 7, 2015 4:24PM
@trafi "I didn't watch the anime" and that is why you don't understand us. I watched anime first, loved it. Got excited for manga, felt weird after 1st chapter and then abandoned it after scrolling through. I could care less about art style, STORY! That's what bothered me! It completely killed Kagura/Yomi relationship for me. For most part it looked like Kagura didn't even care.
Yomi didn't act like herself either. Like yes she is evil spirit but she was evil in anime too and yet they felt like 2 different characters.
trafi May 7, 2015 4:53PM
^ first thing, the manga came first, if people who've seen the anime have a problem with the adaptation, it's not the manga's fault. No need to call it trash. The anime is the adaptation not the opposite.
And anyway, of course course the characters are different, time passed. Yomi is as good as dead, she's no more than a manipulated shadow of what she was in the past and Kagura grew up meanwhile. In the manga there no Kagura/Yomi relationship because there is no more Yomi, that's all. And I don't know where you've seen Kagura not care about Yomi...
Ps : When I was talking about style I meant story telling style, not just art. This author's stories and pace in the stories are all really unusual
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So1For May 7, 2015 5:46PM
I just finished to see this anime and O.M.G... I cried all night beceause it was so so so~ daaaaamn saaaaaaad T_T
I really like to see them together
kagakujinjya May 7, 2015 11:04PM
Most people, including I, are just disappointed about shounen cliche the manga was because the anime was a very decidedly awesome seinen thing, and it is awesome even if you take all the yuri stuff out. that was how awesome the anime was. Which, compared to the awesome-backflip-running-scooter-totally-not-scientifically-impossible-intact-teeth-after-high-impact kiss scene in that first chapter, felt like an insult.
By the way, do you know that tvtropes explain our argument here with the term "Base Breaker"
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trafi May 8, 2015 11:53AM
When you say shonen cliche or "insult", it seems like you didn't paid any attention to the manga... a large part author style is to exaggerate shounen cliche and make it the sillier he can. I don't see how the manga itself is cliche...
Honestly, I don't care if people don't like, think the characters are different or are disappointed when they see the manga, I've been myself in case in which I just couldn't bring myself to like an adaptation or the original of something but it piss me off when people denigrate without even having really tried the thing or watched the thing without bias.
As a shounen, Ga-rei is as great and maybe original as people says the anime is as a seinen.
And one more time, the anime is the adaptation... how can the manga be an insult, it's the anime that went different than the manga.
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ChocolateCakeLover May 8, 2015 2:46PM
Well Trafi, when I say trash I do so subjectively. I can completely get that you like it, however personally when I judge it against the three things I care for most outside of yuri (which of course transcends regular judgement because of it's awesomeness) it fares poorly for me. This is keeping in mind that it was one of my first manga, and before I much cared for yuri, so that didn't really influence my opinion of it. Also, I accept that I may not remember it entirely accurately.
First, the world is uninteresting to me. this for me can really be influential in my opinion, which is why I like Tolkien's stuff so much: the mangaka didn't seem to much care for the world itself, as there was little that had me interested or made me want to explore it more. Contrast to Tolkien whose work was his world, and it comes of poorly. This though doesn't really go towards me calling it trash, because I accept the author just had different priorities than me, and at least Zero expanded it, but the manga can't take credit for that.
Next are the characters. Hardly anything about them makes them stand out as interesting to me. I mean, Kensuke (I think that was his name) seemed superfluous to the plot, existing mostly to end up with the girl at the end. Noriyuki (I think that was his name... again, last read a while ago) was... perverted. And that was basically all there was to his character except for some last minute reviles as far as I remember, which was that he loved Yomi so they could hook up in spirit form. Kagura had her best development in the anime. So did Yomi. Hardly anyone else sticks out in my memory, and those that do weren't anything special. This is really bad, because even Naruto had characters I could like. Kakashi consistently interested me, and plenty of side characters were intriguing too. Unless Kishimoto tried t develop them. He mostly ruined them then. Again, Zero added so many more characters that were fun to watch, as well as making others in the manga more interesting. Except Noriyuki (?). He was still just pervert. And so is his character.
All this lead to a lifeless plot. There was nothing to draw me into it. I had no interest in the plot until after I had read it, because Zero made me interested in the conclusion of it's characters. An unsatisfying one at that. So as a standalone, the manga had nothing for it.
Contrasted to the anime which had an interesting tale to tell in an interesting place with interesting people, and to me, it makes the manga look like trash. Not universally trash, but to me trash none the less. Maybe you would put some of this down to the manga intentionally exaggerating cliche, but that doesn't make something good to me.
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trafi May 8, 2015 2:58PM
I honestly wouldn't have said anything against what you're saying if not for the overly strong statement at the end. Maybe it didn't interest you but, i don't know, it's natural to me that you don't go around calling things trash because you didn't like it.
I personally don't search for big and deep universe and characters when I read it, I see it more like a comic, silly and high paced light parody of a shounen. I like the silliness of the manga.
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Evilnemesis May 8, 2015 3:08PM
Well Trafi, if you don't like something you throw it in the garbage bin do you not? Literally trash! Same principle applies here, but I think the word trash in the internet has taken a more harsh meaning and that's why people flip their shit. But "trash" only means something that is broken, not interesting or useful to the person in question.
trafi May 8, 2015 3:27PM
I don't know but I see it as pretty harsh. It may be different in english but use the equivalent in my language to qualify something that isn't literal trash and it means something that doesn't even merit to exist, be used and in this case to be read. Something that you should throw away immediately.
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Nezchan May 8, 2015 3:29PM
Uh, no. I've been using English all my life, probably a lot longer than most of you, and calling something "trash" has been used as "without redeeming qualities" and as a definitely harsh condemnation of poor quality all that time. It's much heavier than "I don't like it".
Evilnemesis May 8, 2015 3:41PM
Maybe it depends on a person's trashing habbits ? I know someone that hates cleaning up so most often then not he trashes things that are not suppose to get trashed. He's even trashed work related stuff plenty of time, even more lazy than I am! Pretty much everything to him is trash even the important stuff.
Anubis3200 May 8, 2015 6:48PM
Anime is a prequel to the manga. I always tended to like manga more than anime for obvious reasons. Anime tends to cut lots of stuff, ignore development, add pointless fillers and etc. Ga-Rei is the first and only exception for me.
When Anime original is better than manga, there clearly is a problem with the manga. Love it all you want but I'll never touch it again. Tried more than once and looked through various chapters. Just big, fat NO. Even the world doesn't seem to be the same between the two.
You never even bothered with anime so duno by what right you are actually judging our taste. There is no obligation for us to love the manga be it released first or not. Just because something was released first does not mean it's better.
trafi May 9, 2015 2:11AM
I'm not judging your taste I'm judging the right you have to make statement about the manga's quality when the reason you don't like it is the differences that the anime created.
There is no "problem" with manga aside from those you created yourself (expectation and bias). The two have different style so of course you can like one and not the other. It doesn't mean the one you don't like have a "problem"
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KJacket May 9, 2015 7:04AM
I read the manga first, and in all honesty all I can say is that they are different - aside from the fact that the anime was supposed to be the prequel. Of course, being a sucker for yuri made the anime better for me than the manga did but I did enjoy the manga in a different way before the anime came out. They're almost two separate stories to me, or sort of an AU like feel.
@Anubis3200 gotta agree with manga is usually better for those reasons, not sure if Ga-rei was the only anime better for me but it certainly is an example.
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FlameHazeKatsu May 9, 2015 8:40AM
Well, this two, the saddest ending ever. T_T but well, in here glad someone made this! XD
ChocolateCakeLover May 9, 2015 1:53PM
Trafi, of course someone has the right to comment on the quality of something as they perceive it. When I said it was trash I meant that I don't find value in it. That's all.
To ME, the manga was worthless. When I said trash I didn't mean that everyone should find it so. If it puts you at ease, just swap trash with a more agreeable descriptor.
trafi May 9, 2015 2:05PM
Don't worry, i totally understood the misunderstanding and what you were trying to say. Here I was speaking to Anubis who looks like didn't mean the same as you and also misunderstood what my point was.
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ChocolateCakeLover May 9, 2015 2:06PM
Oh, of course, sorry.
[deleted] May 12, 2015 3:19PM
sexy and depressing
Azur May 31, 2015 10:56PM
Omg love this anime I was upset about the ending tho there should be another season
ChocolateCakeLover May 31, 2015 10:57PM
If you scroll up, you will find me and trafi debating whether the manga was any good. The manga 'follows' the anime.
vempriex Aug 20, 2015 11:56PM
Yomi!! Damn very "perked" nips **coughs*
AshuraX Nov 2, 2015 12:39PM
Internet:
The only place where a picture of two girls making out in the shower can lead to a debate about what is trash and what is not.
Zetsu Jan 27, 2016 2:26AM
Damn they were meant to be together :) but it was a great anime can't get over the death of kagura yet T_T
YayaSamuko Jul 31, 2017 4:30AM
Dropped the anime at episode 5 but hey! Still nice pairing!
Also, I really love shower scene where the girls play pocky and end up eating more than the pocky itself wink wink
yuri n wine Oct 24, 2018 1:43PM
Beautiful
Also, Yomi is resurrected as a spirit in the manga. The anime is a prequel