Amy_85, I respect your view of it.. but let's take it from this direction:
a Demisexual will first form a very close connection and a strong bond with someone THEN they may feel the sexual attraction toward that person.
so first the emotional connection then the sexual attraction, right ?

this is not the case with Sungji, she was first attracted to Sumin's appearances THEN formed the emotional connection. <- Demisexuality excluded

@Doctor

Cause even though it looks like the main wdtfs thread on the outside, it's actually a secret Seju-admiration sub-thread. So a Seju hater like me is not welcomed​

For me, you are more than welcome, really, but your imaginary wdtfs version is not.

I second this.

so your 900th comment ended with a slap XD

Me??? propossing you??? O.o Since when???? Don't lie!!!!! Baek Seju is here you Fake Sumin!!

Nammi told me EVERYTHING !

Wow, am I playing Sungji's role in a scenario where Sumin goes back to Seju or something? :'D

heheheheh.. remember this

If you want me to die. Let me kill my self then..

my heart can't ╥﹏╥.. no Ken ..NO !!

yes, I was checking what's going on.. I fell in fun with Ken's comments XD..

All I did was trying to play hard to get, cruel much. T T

I got cheated on with you Sia ue.. let's kill Ken

but Ken you are such a player! proposing to Sia ue and giving flowers to every female in mgg!

our picture :*

Noway!!! No need to disguise i will protect you!!

OHHH MY SEJUUUUUUU!!!! You are here toooo Darlinggg!!!!!!! but why your name is nora? Change it to Seju Right Now!!

ohh my Ken XD.. I had to go undercover, don't tell anyone !
XD

Doctor

Sumin is the one in danger(whatever danger means in a triangle yuri drama). Seriously though, maybe Sumin is the one left in 'danger' alone in that house.

plausible, but then this moves the story to nowhere, no? :\

sia ue

I think Seju will run into either the assassin, Nami, or a new character.

ah.. hehehe I didn't think about Nammi XD, what if she flirts again? I wanna see Seju's reaction

roamsl

I say intentionally and deliberately ignoring very obvious details. And forming/making up scenes which aren't obviously in the panels.

I get that it is a way of having fun and maintaining reputation.. hehehe we are not used to that in here XD.
isn't Ken coming too ?

Methetruth

this is what I thought, but only if she actually took long enough to follow Seju, then she will take the car.. if she followed her immediately, there will be no point in that.

I put also in my mind that finding the scarf isn't enough.. but also knowing the story of the ring.

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finally the thread is a bit calm XD.. I just wanted to share some unconnected ideas about next chapter.. well, no body can expect anything really!

1. Seju meets Sungji on her way -> but how can Sungji calm Seju down? even if she does, we want Sumin at some point to check her car and find the scarf by herself
2. Seju goes and Sumin follows -> same argument as the above, solves nothing -> or maybe it would if Sumin took her sweet time first.
3. Seju goes and Sumin doesn't follow -> it's cold outside, and we didn't see Seju taking her wallet, phone and she doesn't seem to have any of her cars parked near by.. where would she go!
4. in fact, Seju took a jacket that has everything (phone, keys..etc) but we didn't see that -> she can go far.
5. meeting with the assassin -> solves nothing really!
6. meeting Saehyun on her way out XDDD -> why Not !!

ah.. it's all because May has 31 days we are waiting for an extra day.. it drives me insane that nothing I'm thinking of seems to be logical.

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Doctor

hahahaha.. I never thought of that XD

^
my weakness is being asked nicely XD.. and Vanbun, Thank you for appreciating.

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Doctor

This was the argument I once had. Wether Sungji knows about the existence of the scars underneath the tattoo, and my argument was that yes she knew. She just doesn't know then story of it.

ah, yes.. sorry I got carried away. She might felt the uneven skin.. she only touched it once ch46. And my argument is, even if she knew, then the story she has is false and would be handed down by Nammi. BUT, in ch51, I got that she was referring to the scar indirectly .. but I can't prove this.

The Unsecret Crush
This point will make me feel like shooting myself in the foot if I went into details with it, it has to do with reading behind the lines.. connecting dots and understanding Sungji in a different way. And since I play it safe as you said, I will refrain from discussing it deeper.. I don't know if TG will return to it at all later. However, my retreat in this one isn't because the view is weak, it's rather very strong.. but its importance at this very current stage is vague and the obvious straight forward evidences are laking. I can't refer you to a single panel and pin point it.

Lord of the Ring

Let's go through the Panels together ch53, step by step:
we start from here: http://imgur.com/a/BkbWL
Sungji puts Seju in bed ➤ Seju notices the ring ➤ Doesn't comment and asks Sungji to leave ➤ Sungji went to get meds, Seju becomes even sicker ➤ Seju takes the meds from Sungji and tries one more time to kick Sungji out ➤ Seju can't even protest ➤ Sungji brings a bowel and takes off her own ring by her own self.

• check point: http://imgur.com/a/h4bMQ

Sungji unbuttoning Seju's shirt and wipes her sweat (no ring) ➤ continues on preaching about self care.. while Seju is clearly sleeping: http://imgur.com/a/dIBcY , mumbling Sumin's name.

• this leads us to check point two: http://imgur.com/a/XVbQU

as seen clearly, the one who left the ring on here is Sungji.
Seju only saw it later in there in the evening of ch54 as she wakes up. BTW.. let's ask Sungji what happened?
http://imgur.com/a/MnkqD

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I might be at this point delusional as some already call me. BUT there was no other way for me to see it other than Sungji forgetting her ring at Seju's. It by no means suggests that Seju took it evily. Did she use it later? Yes. But I differentiate between stealing and simply finding someon's else belongings in your house

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on the top of my mind though,

The issue on why Seju lost her cool in ch82, and how it's a break of her character.

I would like to address these things:

• Seju lost her cool greatly in ch54, she was yelling honest and genuine words at Sumin -regardless of the next plan she did-.

-> Seju isn't immune to break downs.

• we have to remember this: Seju is apathetic towards Nammi, in a sense that she doesn't care what Nammi thinks of her or try to justify anything to her.. this was shown clearly in previous chapters.. she breaks down when it comes to Sumin and belittling their relationship.

-> those two cases of false accusation can't be compared.
(notice that Nammi thought that Seju was blind dating because she felt lonely.. till Sumin corrected her false assumption, ch35 ,not Seju who completely ignored Nammi in ch31 and ch37).

-> that's why Seju felt insulted about Sumin's accusation but not Nammi's

• we have to take into consideration that Seju suffers from PTSD currently, she said it clearly:"I'm already in this miserable state..etc."

-> Seju is more sensitive than her usual self.. you can see this clearly in ch80.

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Why didn't Seju explain the ring thing?

• given that she knew better about how Sumin doesn't believe her, it was pointless to explain anything to Sumin and Seju knew it. refer to ch49 and ch27 on how Sumin doesn't listen or believe Seju even if you as a reader clearly can see that she is honest at least about Nammi's thing which we all agree about.. Seju:"I know how much you don't have trust in me".. even if Seju explained the ring thing, Sumin will:

1. not believe Seju
2. create a problem with Sungji (which will even anger teamBlonde, wouldn't it? XDD)

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Bottom Line or Summary
1. Seju lost her cool before in the past, and how Seju feels about Nammi's insults is fundamentally different from Sumin's.
2. pre-existed conditions of Seju played a part on how she reacted in ch49 compared to ch82. PTSD
3. lack of trust, contributed in the lack of effort to explain of justify anything.

I tried to make this as clear as possible.

Hello sia ue,
I saw this one post before, I even commented with a single pic. which then I deleted for the sake of maintaining the topic.

the thing is, I already went through all these points extensively, in exception to the so called Fact 2 since it was triggered by a joke.

there is no point on repeating myself again.. so I'm still ignoring XD
don't worry about the one who said those things, he/she can still find the answers here anyways.
...
I missed your comments by the way :)

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Disclaimer: the following comment is not deeply related to the story, so readers from other forums, relax or skip :P

But I need more to confirm. I think she is an asexual specifically, a demisexual..

if I may comment on that, it's yes and no, because Sungji commented about an actor in ch.39 whom she found "hot", demisexuals feel confused towards such things.
Seju is a perfect example of a Demisexual compared Sungji

I was talking about this with Amy_85 last night, I don't agree that Demisexuality is a degree of Asexuality.. it's rather in between. Asexual will desire 0 sex, this is not the case with Demis who feel sexual attraction and enjoy it with very very close partners whom they formed a bond with.

popointhemoom

if I may ask you to reduce the quote in your second comment on this page, just so the quote box won't dominate the page.
Thank you

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and ah, Doctor, about Dawoon and Sungji thing, I was sceptical for a long while.. only 3 days ago I was discussing this matter with Foxy lady when the image was finally formed for me at least. I even called it a risky argument back then.
check from page 319-320 for details. However, we were very brief about it since I only needed to connect two points together in the argument.
The Manhwa may never resolve this issue though even if the idea was correct. Hence, I may refrain from arguing further in it.

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Doctor

Gotta admit though, after reading the last few pages here I've concluded that you seem to be the most observative, and seem to take things as they're presented and seem the least to add you're own opinion on things without at least some back up evidence. In short, you always try to play it safe. Cause even now, even though I can't I agree with you on somethings I can't seem to point my finger at any specific thing and shout forged cause as I say, you know your stuff and you like to play it safe. And you also seem to be quite level headed. Cause after my comment you just ignored me and let me go in peace. Hahaha, kinda dope gotta admit.

Thanks a lot, I try to read the Manhwa as it is told to us as much as possible.. there is someone who shocks me with the keen eyes and deep understanding in here.. I'm not the most observant XD

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But here is a few points from there I think are important and would like to know your opinions and what my opinion on them are:
1. Sungji doesn't know about the scar - she does and she always did. She's quite perceptive. Equal or second to Nami

I agree with you on the perceptiveness of Sungji, here is the thing, I know for sure that Sumin never talked about the tattoo, she even flinched as Sungji tried to touch it in ch29.. Sungji knew that Sumin won't talk about it as you could see from the bed talk in ch46.. only in ch56 after Sungji caught her cheating, she finally said what Seju is to her very subtly.
-> Sungji knew about the Tattoo from Sumin excluded

I like the possibility that Nammi told Sungji about it, Nammi's father is a doctor and he knows Sumin, ch38.. maybe this is how Nammi knew.. but Nammi doesn't know the details for sure. (in a matter of fact, even Seju doesn't know why the scarring happened exactly, ch.27)
-> Sungji knew subtly (and maybe wrong info) about the tattoo from Nammi possible

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Sungji doesn't know Sumin - She does oh so well. It's the details that had alluded her but mostly because she told Sumin she won't ask her about her secrets.

well, she knew from their first date that Sumin lacks "frankness" ch24, and later in bed talk ch46 and many other occasions. Sumin won't talk.. Nammi as well commented on this fact in ch19. which leads us to guess that whatever Sungji knows about Sumin is either a fruit of her perceptiveness or handed down by Nammi.

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Sumin had a crush on Dawoon - False. She was just a childhood friend and an opportunity for Sungji to pull a, Sumin. If you know what I mean.

I guess you mean Sungji. This idea is a result of connecting dots together, given Sungji's personality and the history between the two as well how they interacted. I chose not to dive more in this one here. but let me hint this, Seju asked Sungji a question on their lunch together in ch79, Sungji knew the answer and it is in ch62 phone call.

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Seju didn't steal the ring - She did. Sungji wouldn't​ forget something like that. And it's also important we saw her take it off through Seju's eyes. The guilty party(PG rated...I think I can do this)

well, according to the panel in ch53, she did forget it.. I didn't see Seju taking it off from Sungji's hand.. or going through Sungji's stuff. but again in ch62, the ring was on Sungji's desk (she has it now for SURE). and you know, Seju is Sungji's boss, she could've called her for any reason, and Sungji would have to appear anyway. The way that Sungji forgot the ring is the most important fact now.. because from here things will uncover another. IMO

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Seju is just inlove - False, she's just a straightout b-b-bae who's a bit misunderstood....(Iol I'm just messing around here, so don't give your opinion on this one. It's not very necessary to point this out, but I've learned that it actually iiiiis necessary)

hehehe.. okay!

for the record Mangago commenters, what Amy_85 said about the boobs and Sungji being bi. is a mere joke XDDD.. to be more precise, it was a dinner casual talk, chill guys XDD

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Anonymous on mangago

Let the meaning of Sumin's tattoo be an example. It doesn't represent unforgettable love. The symbolism of the flower used in Sumin's tattoo is explained word by word that it "connotes freshness and innocence".

I was the one who brought the "unforgettable love" meaning of Sumin's tattoo, the reference is "the Tale of Genji", Japanese poetry. (Murasaki relationship with Rui - who were two women in love btw)
the Kerria also means un-fruitfulness, hollowness and winter season as well among other meanings you brought from the link I posted earlier ;)
the reference of Kerria flower in Japanese poetry is a fact not an opinion, but it's up to the reader to choose whatever meaning they find fit to the tattoo itself.. I shared the info. why do I feel like I shot myself in the foot every time I mention this thing? it could mean nothing as well. relax again!

I can't see myself arguing with someone who sees things that don't exist

you don't have to really, it saves time for me to paste the link for you, and later snap and highlight the text.. and later argue in 3 pages XD thanks for saving me the effort.

^
I read couple of their comments, they talked about the above view, and it was not serious, Amy was joking.