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YEAH WOOOOOO OGUTAMA!!! hell yes!!!!!

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poketachy always hits. gorgeous art too

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this translation is a little iffy. and normally i'd overlook it but a few lines got totally lost. eg "you're changing" in the first chapter when she probably said kawatteru in the sense of like, weird, odd taste, etc. maybe i should ask about becoming a QCer and put my effort where my mouth is?

anyway! i want a gf ten years older than me too. 36yo lesbians, if you're out there...

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HELL YEAH!! CBA at last, the soulmates <3

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I agree that there's no such thing as a story everyone enjoys, we all have our own tastes, and yours and mine clearly don't align. But you started off by saying "yall are grossly exaggerating". No, we're not exaggerating this type of story just irks. And yes it irks me when non-yuri stories do it too.

But also, I want to know why you think chapter 25 didn't cross the line into "kind of dumb". How does "I want you" and then trying to kiss Yuzu translate as a normal thing to misunderstand from Yuzu's perspective? Genuinely, I want to know what you think about that whole sequence.

my comment about exaggeration was in reference to people talking (complaining) about yuzu specifically, not the manga. the person directly above my original comment called her a sociopath. like, she's just an awkward girl who's bad at social cues, wtf

and maybe my phrasing was bad there. i do think it was plenty and frequently dumb. my point was that said dumbness never became annoying to me, so it didn't "cross the line" into something worse than being dumb.

as for the scene from chapter 25, my grasp on yuzu is that she's very concerned with being a "normal" best friend, but the issue is that those two (even before chapter 1) had nonexistent physical boundaries. casual skinship between girls is terrifying to navigate when you can't figure out where "normal" ends. so as the story goes on and things become clearly more romantic, yuzu struggles and gets increasingly more self-conscious. i think it's pretty easy to read her rejecting the kiss as her being overwhelmed and confused. "i want you" is pretty sexual, BUT conveys none of the vulnerable romantic love part, so she couldn't read her intentions and panicked. it's actually pretty reasonable imo

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No way you're shitting on Sasameki Koto while defending this.
Sasameki Koto is messy as fuck but it's a classic that's full of soul and a lot of genuine heartfelt moments, genuinely comparing it to this bland paste makes me feel old as fuck with how tastes seem to shifted on it.

bro, what on earth are you talking about. i've been religiously reading yuri since the 00s up til now and i thought it was mid. it's not because i'm some clueless zoomer (which i'm not even young enough to be), i just have different taste. i think you might have some rose colored glasses, to be honest

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Sasameki Koto is definitely all over the place, but at least it has real gravitas, and is pretty artful in some of its direction. The chapter with the books (you know the one) was kind of perfect. And it actually tried to tackle what casual and persistent homophobia looks like. Is it perfect? No, it's a tonal mess, but by the time we get to really dramatic parts I was really invested.

I have nothing positive to say about this one other than it being cute. The confession happening in the last chapter is disappointing, but not its biggest negative. It's the pointless and poorly thought out misunderstandings that make this bad. A few times can be entertaining, but at a certain point it becomes boring and annoying.

And I agree with you that there are worse stories, but stories have to be evaluated based on ambition and intention. What was this trying to achieve, and did it achieve it? Clearly it was trying to be a cute childhood friend romance, the type that makes the reader feel fluffy and want to root for them. Instead, I felt aggravated, so of course my rating is going to be harsh. I'm not comparing this to Bloom Into You or Kill Me Now. I'm rating it against things like I Want To Be Liked By That Shy Girl or Our Yuri Started With Me Getting Rejected in a Dream.

we'll agree to disagree there i guess. the filler in sasameki koto wore me out so bad i couldn't even bring myself to care about the main couple anymore, or any of the characters at all. there are slowburn classic yuri that are very good, but i wouldn't call that one (personally).

misunderstandings are a common romance trope in all romance, definitely not yuri exclusive. if you replaced yuzu here with a guy, it'd be an average shoujo manga. i'm not saying you shouldn't criticize it. like, by all means do! but critique it based on what it set out to be, as you described. meet it on its merits and terms. Rejected in a Dream was one i personally dropped for being boring, so it's all personal taste anyway. there's no such thing as a story everyone enjoys!

after reflecting, i realized a better comparison for my part might be citrus. that was another manga with way too many "you thought there was progress? ha! sucker!" moments and out-of-left-field drama that i resented for it. this manga however was a pleasant surprise? it was silly at many times, but it never (for me) crossed the line of "kind of dumb" into actually annoying. i think because the leads clearly cared about each other and were both slowly coming undone, so even when it was status quo it never felt like they went backwards. i appreciated that

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i... honestly kind of liked it? i agree the ending was rushed, but if anything i thought yuzu was very sympathetic. she was just missing (or didn't trust her ability to read) all the social cues, and tbh felt very autistic. with a better conclusion this could have been a solid work, and i was surprised how much i liked all the side characters by the end too. reminded me of girl friends (morinaga milk) in many ways, but i guess that's why? like, this is more "classic" in terms of yuri writing, and if you ignore the art style etc it could've easily been a 00s work.

yes it doesn't reinvent the wheel, but imo it was cute and a fun enough read. i've read stories waaaay worse than this and yall are grossly exaggerating. like, has anyone here ever tried to read sasameki koto? shit is 99% filler, it's downright painful. i'm someone who generally does not like childhood friends in yuri at all, and will even root for the ship that isn't that in a love triangle. it's kind of overused and rarely done well. but when it's cute and i like the characters involved, it's not bad. i'd rate this a 7/10, personally. it was better than i expected. i'd like to see more from the author as they refine their craft

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this is a really incredible work that i'm surprised i missed, but glad i finally read it. the TLer's note at the beginning hit in a very particular way because that's also how i deal with loss (running away, isolating, shutting out reality). when a relative of mine i was very close to passed away, i didn't go to visit her. it'd overwrite my view of her and reality and make it too real, and i couldn't handle that.

in that way, i can understand how koma feels. it's so much easier to lock something in a glass case in your mind/memory than to Be There to lose it or see it change. if she acknowledges yura's bullying/abuse situation (which i'm pretty sure implies self harm. yura says she did it herself, it makes sense), she has to confront and change her view of reality, and probably admit that she knowingly let it get this bad. it's easier to look away, and easier to numb away all vulnerability (eg her feelings for yura). in a sense, she wants to have her cake and eat it too; she can't keep a safe distance AND be with yura, and so she can't give in to the ocean tide or resist it. she's so afraid to choose that her lack of it becomes a choice. ngl, i feel like this is a good illustration of the freeze response to stress.

i also think that's kind of what the ending is meant to represent? she couldn't choose, so her choice was taken from her (and now it's too late). she's trapped inside the train, which symbolizes "moving"? "going back home and leaving yura behind" and "going with her out the door" are both choices where she has to leave the train. so it's less about what happens to yura (good or bad, she made a decision) and more about koma's cowardice.

as an aside, it's interesting how yura is portrayed as the "scared", weak one. she stutters, she's battered, she's clearly a victim. and yet she's the one with the courage to change it, so at the end she's the strong one and koma clearly scared and weak. it's a clever way to emphasize it.

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commenting because i'm in awe at the typesetting work here. it's masterfully done and vibes so well with the art style it actually enhances it. this is like material to study and practice with, god damn. story was also very cute and i hope she got her pussy eaten immediately

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tail hugging!!!!! <3

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wow, haruchiha!!!! awesome!

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i was wondering how they were gonna stick the ending without it feeling anticlimactic or like a cop out. and this is honestly much better than i'd hoped, given the length. the artist has a hell of a talent packing heavy meaning into the subtlest things. i'm glad she chose to live. and if they do die together, at least they're no longer alone (in a tbh very profound way).

aside from the ending itself, i really enjoyed the contrast between them. konno protects herself by numbing over, vs yunimaru/saki going down fighting and clawing. and together they reach a kind of emotional equilibrium, once they finally let down their walls enough. it's sweet

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about to start yelling, why is this one-shot just ichimizu aikatsu?!? literal masterpiece and gourmet yuri romance. i want fifty more

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i love fempreg. i need more fempreg. i'm not even a love live person but ohhhhh my god this rules so hard. the domestic fluff and loving gazes are KILLER

(fempreg, aka the counterpart to mpreg (fantasy of spontaneous samesex pregnancy). it's good BECAUSE it's not science babies/IPS or anything that'd make sense in our world. just pure fantasy of "what if my girlfriend could get me pregnant". i'm a fan)

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read this earlier and it's been bouncing around in my head the last several hours. it honestly hit like a truck. there's nothing light or casual about it, and that's made very very clear in that last conversation with her best friend. she talks before that as if it was a whim or just general "i was tired", but yamagishi mentions all the things in her past that were suffocating her. as someone with bad depression, i can't count how many times i just said "tired" instead of explaining why i felt like shit. it is what it is, right? no point in opening old wounds for stuff that won't change. and that's how her situation read to me, very clearly. just an overwhelming sense of powerlessness.

what actually breaks my heart though is her talking about all the plans they made and things she promised to do with her. that hit waaaaay too close to home, even thinking about it makes me tear up. god

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laughing at these replies because i was just as "wtf". like, you can speak?! i remember after mine i couldn't move my lips for hours and kept coughing up blood. these CN longstrip lesbians really are built different

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this has the potential to be pretty hot, actually. and the human lady is really gorgeous to begin with (something about her expressions?) so, that catgirl is pretty lucky. i wonder if it'll lean into "heat" as a trope or if the cat ears and tail are just for show

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that bookworm girl is adorable. i would fall just as hard ngl

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love the juxtaposition between comedy and "what the fuck is wrong with them" here, it's very fun. definitely a promising first chapter :D curious about kira-san's motives and way of thinking, in particular. she's the more obviously fucked up one, but they both seem to have pretty warped views on love

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something about this ship makes my heart ache. i think it's how down horrendous nemo is, her pining gives me brainworms

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there's really nothing to defend about loli imo. is it fucked up? absolutely. do i still enjoy it? hell yeah i do. this one wasn't a fav of mine but in general i really enjoy itou hachi's work. it's a bonus that she's a fellow sicko (admiring)

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Oops, I’ll make those shortened links going forward.

Here’s the link: https://www.duo.uio.no/bitstream/handle/10852/88434/1/Master-s-thesis-JAP4595-Thea-JP-Hammarqvist.pdf

awesome read, thank you for sharing it. i just finished after catching up with this manga too. i already felt that it calls in a lot of very classic old yuri cliches (obvious one being the "good girl" in difficult circumstances x bad news ephemeral beauty), but the extra context about women's self identity in the time period adds a lot.

(also, honestly, the book it discusses just sounds like an incredible read. the plotline with kudou they describe hit me like a truck remembering my own teenage friendships. feeling heartbreak over someone else's loss of individuality sure is an emotion! especially when you admired them.)

back to the manga in question though, i'm guessing it's leading to tragedy? that's what every single flag and cliche is pointing to, so i'm curious to see if the artist will take that route. because there's also the option to subvert all of it, but we'll have to wait and see how it plays out i guess. excited to read more :)

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oh i SERIOUSLY hope this continues, wtf. creator is absolutely a precure fan and you can tell. the references throughout are so much fun, and i'm honestly liking the themes and characters a lot. i hope the other girl becomes a magical girl with her :3 seems like it's going that way

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it's extremely rare that i read an age gap romance and think "oh, this same age side couple are actually more interesting". shouko is just a way better match for him, in personality and chemistry, so that backpedaling at the end was actually pretty disappointing. to the point i wish the manga had just been about them instead :/ oh well. only so much you can do with a spinoff i guess