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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Just gals being pals and eating chocolate together!

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Kokeshi bonking someone else for being too horny?? Has the world gone mad!?

BoobTwinkler
Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

oh a world where an lgbtq+ crush is seen as normal by the general population, can't wait for that to be real

but seriously, these two talked it out like normal human beings?!?!? what kind of yuri sorcery is this?

It's real in some places. Not like, country sized places, but there are definitely general communities where anti-LGBTQ+ bigotry is just an extremist minority.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

RIP Nezumi, we hardly knew ye.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Oh dear Lawd she's finally become a full-fledged degenerate just like the others!

Also, tiny tit talks.
TINY. TIT. TALKS.

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Personally, I really dig this translation. I wouldn't say it's "better" or "worse" just different, with a charm all its own.

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I liked the story, but I’m not sure how this relates to the title at all. I mean, she called her an angel at some point, but that’s pretty much the only thing I could find that was even kinda related to the title. I was thinking the yuri goddess would be helping out or something.

I think the idea is that she looks up to her as a goddess, and said goddess actively encourages her to confess to her and pursue her romantically, hence the name.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Really working on those infomercial auditions, isn't she?

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I was about to say she missed her chance to wish FOR a monster girl harem since it's her dream and all, but then I realized that she kinda already has that, doesn't she?

Life's good when you're an electric massager.

BoobTwinkler
Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Tanned-Gyaru-Ojiou-sama Blessed combo.

Boobies.

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/looking_up_to_magical_girls_ch37#23

...Is that a pube in the top right panel? Is Haruka the first character of the series who doesn't shave?!

THIS IS GROUNDBREAKING!

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

People are defending him saying that the criticism stems simply from the fact that he's a man, when the reality is that he's acting as if he can decide for Saho, as if she owes him something for his two years of one-sided flirting. Plus, taking into account the cultural context (as a commenter described perfectly earlier), the fact that he is a man probably does play a role in this, and it's possible the situation would have played out differently if he were a woman. (Of course, given Saho's personality, it could very well have gone exactly the same, but at least there wouldn't be all this —unintentional— pressure from her environment).

I feel like you're reading the narrative backwards.
No one's saying he should get a pass on his pushiness "just because he's a man", we're saying that the cultural context explains his behaviour without intrinsically making him a bad person.

He doesn't "act like he can decide for Saho" at all, he just thinks his feelings are reciprocated because she's never been anything but positive towards him even after he's literally said outright that he wants to be her boyfriend. The fact that he's been allowed to flirt with her so explicitly for two years without getting rejected even once has simply convinced him that she is interested just hesitant about his sincerity, and consequently that what he needs to do is be as frank and direct as humanly possible. (Which is why he's so direct during the confession, he thinks that's what she wants him to do.)

Though yes, he's too touchy with her during the confession, but it's not because he's an asshole. He just misread her signals and thought they were closer than they really were.

Furthermore, no one was saying that his behaviour would've been more accepted if he was a woman in-universe, we were referring to the discussion section here on the forums. That if a woman had behaved like that to another woman, a lot of the people who are calling this man creepy would've been much more accepting of the exact same behaviour simply because it was yuri. (Which isn't a strange bias, this is a place to look for yuri after all.)

I feel that comparing the situation in this manga to the real-life situation of "pressure in the workplace for waitresses" is somewhat misguided. Everyone involved seems like good friends and I don't get the impression that the author intended for the possible pressure of being in their workplace environment to be relevant to the story or the characters' decisions.

As in, I don't think her indecisiveness in rejecting him had much really to do with feeling pressured by her workplace to not be rude to a customer. I think she was just really dense and truly didn't think he was serious with it despite the very obvious and direct approach.

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Also, real surprised by all the people on her defending the creepy man. Ugh.

Could be the nicest one guy on earth and people here will still manage to found something to say anyway if it's a W/W/M triangle. Honestly, it's not as creepy as people make it sound and if it was a girl, nobody would have bat an eye.

^This.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Miyata: I told her not to hand that in to the school.
Teacher: It has her approval?

Me: What part of that sounded like approval to you? õ_Õ

The part where she knew, and seemingly accepted, that the journal was being written. She just didn’t approve of it being submitted.

It doesn't actually imply that she was fine with the journal at all though, merely that she's aware it exists and didn't want it turned in to the school. I get your point though, it's likely the intended read and I just don't feel it's the natural one.

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Keep Japanese culture in mind, and you will extract more flavor from this chapter

In Japan, being direct is often considered rude, with some degree of "preserving face" for another party as in Chinese and other East-Asian culture. Being too direct might be seen as insulting, as a faux pas, or as aggressive. There's some leeway for not taking an obvious hint and for keeping pressure on, but the norm is figuratively and literally turning away from arguments. Women are often expected to be even more indirect and passive, which enables persistent men to push or cross boundaries. And women being less blunt also can give the impression their opinions are less solid. When a man in manga is badgering like Kenji and not being told off (such as in Hikizan Tautology), he's on one level supposed to take the hint and very rude for missing or ignoring it, and on another level he can be seen as sympathetic as he isn't conditioned to take hints as seriously from women. Kenji had years of soft rejections, and his traditionalist biases and sense of entitlement won out for years before he was willing to risk an uncomfortable direct answer.

Kaho isn't a total airhead. She didn't return interest in Kenji, or even reflect on what he wanted. She told him stuff like "you're going on about that again" and ignored blatant flirting. She gives constant soft rejections. She never indicated he had absolutely no chance, and she never said statements with finality. She was acting how a humble passive woman is expected to, especially in customer service. Being too gentle and conflict-averse further softens a person's soft rejections. Kaho couldn't even look at the guy's face when rejecting him! With all this in mind, turning him down was a huge moment because she's not only making a big decision but going against how she lives and is expected to live! Then Tamaki was much more direct, and Kaho immediately accepted her, that was great~

And all the other stuff in this story! Tamaki getting attached, and her expressions contrasting Kaho, Kaho just folding immediately at the end. The different body types and Kaho's appearance being only a bit relevant. I wonder what a manga with Tamaki and Kaho in bands would be like, music came up as a connection then didn't matter...

Absolutely THIS.
Another user put it perfectly earlier I think:
"He's not so much a creep as he's just acting on bad intel."

He's expressed his intentions clearly for over 2 years and apparently the most he's gotten back from her is a vague implication that she doesn't think he's being serious with it. Most people in his position would've assumed she wasn't opposed to dating after that much time of flirting without getting rejected, her own inaction is just as much to blame for this misunderstanding after such a long timeframe as his pushiness is.

(By which I don't mean to imply she's at fault, I mean to say that neither party here is really at fault and it's mostly just a misunderstanding born from two ill-fitted mentalities colliding in an unfortunate way.)

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Miyata: I told her not to hand that in to the school.
Teacher: It has her approval?

Me: What part of that sounded like approval to you? õ_Õ

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

i would've felt a little bad for kenji if he didn't go for the "if she doesn't want to date me that doesn't mean a woman's fine" line, coupled with that expression. Talk about an immediate bad taste in my mouth, how rude.

I don't think he meant that insultingly, I got the impression he just meant that she wasn't going to magically become a lesbian just because she rejected a man. Yeah he still assumed she's straight, but I think he had a pretty good basis tbh seeing as he's courted her for 2 years and she's apparently never given a clear rejection before.

Could have just read that wrong though.

Although I can't blame him for being rude given the circumstances either way, gotta be kinda frustrating to have someone else show up during your confession and basically hijack it. Even if he's rejected, at least let him get rejected first lol.

But am the only one that would be very uncomfy with so much physical contact by someone rando, more so grabbing shoulders or arm around them? more so if it's a pushy customer, that keeps talking about dating you forever.
Maybe I became too sensetive for that tho.

I'd be uncomfortable too, but in fairness, he's been visiting for two whole years and everyone seems familiar with him so I wouldn't strictly classify him as a random stranger in terms of relationship. It doesn't help that the employees seem to approve of his affections and the woman herself has apparently never actually rejected him seriously, seems quite easy for him to get the wrong idea.

last edited at May 19, 2022 6:13PM

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

On one hand, cute adorable baby gays, on the other, ewww blood...

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Ritsu's got plenty of sex appeal. That girl is blind.

I think it's implied that she was lying when she said that in order to bait an attempt at proving her wrong so she could snap a picture of it.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

10/10 Uncle of the year, didn't bat an eye at his niece not being straight.

BoobTwinkler
Umbrellas discussion 15 May 09:05
Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Bisexual women exist. In fact, some even speculate they're more common than lesbians.

To the aguish of lesbians everywhere, Judging by the heated arguments I see about bisexual women on the comment pages.

Speaking as an anguished lesbian, I'm having flashbacks to the allegedly bisexual girls who wasted my time in college and I have a sudden urge to throw my coffee cup against the wall.

o7

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

How is Mariya so okay with this?? She's all give and I don't see her taking anything. I don't get how someone can be so okay with being used like this. She likes her face so she raises her like a pet and nothing else? Even if we take away any sexual favors, there has to be something else she wants in return, right? If it were me, I'd at least tell Tenma to cook my meals. Honestly, I'm more interested in how Mariya's brain works than in Tenma's background/story.

Why do people have cats and dogs?

Because they're adorable and precious and we love them irrationally for it. Getting to see them happy and safe is the reward, pure serotonin!

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019
  1. They live in Japan. 300 million yen is worth 300 million yen. There is no sense in converting to USD when talking about living conditions. The domestic price of rent and rice does not fluctuate by 10-20% on an annual basis like exchange rates do.

The point of converting it is just to give non-japanese people a better idea of how much money is being talked about.

  1. Purchasing property does not diminish your net wealth, because it is an asset you can sell, and usually at a profit as time passes. If you have cash, it's very financially prudent to do so, considering owning the roof over your head drastically reduces living expenses without the need to pay rent or a mortgage. Rather than her fortune being "gone", paying money into the black hole that is rent is what actually makes wealth disappear (a fact which massively contributes to generational poverty, I should note).

Net wealth is "only" an estimate and can't be withdrawn from quickly in the event of an emergency.
If she needs money suddenly, a large net worth isn't worth anything at all to a normal person. Anyone savvy obviously wouldn't get to that point barring extreme circumstances, but given the way the MC is with money, I wouldn't put it past her to spend all her money without realizing it and ending up broke out of nowhere. In which case, her net worth wouldn't be relevant since selling the apartment wouldn't happen quickly enough to keep her off the streets for a few weeks. (At which point you've already "lost" even thought you eventually get the worth from the apartment back, and given the urgency to sell, I wouldn't count on getting full price.)

So yeah, while I think you have a point that buying a home isn't a "loss" so much as an "investment" in the long run, in the case of this MC specifically, I would very much consider it a reckless expenditure when she hasn't even made any plans at all for her economy yet.

  1. 300 million is more than enough to last you for life, if you invest responsibly in things like index funds and don't spend the seed money. A modest 5% annual return would provide you with 15 million in passive income per year, or even if she spent 1/3rd of the money on property, 10 million in passive income plus not paying rent plus the appreciation in value on her property.

This assumes the person with the money is both savvy with money and has the disposition to get things done. I think you're drastically overestimating the average person's financial know-how and willingness to manage their financials. Most people would likely just try to hire someone else to handle everything pertaining to their economy for them.

The MC in this case is clearly not knowledgeable enough to do any of those things you suggested unless someone else explicitly gets involved and pushes her to do them. (Which might be where the sugar honey comes into things in the long run, but who knows.)

BoobTwinkler
Umbrellas discussion 14 May 12:16
Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I was putting myself in that situation and if I bothered to buy a nice, good umbrella for me, I wouldn't like if someone borrowed it without letting me know, during period where I'd specifically need it, so I'm forced to buy new or make be, since that's exactly why I bought the nice, good umbrella in the first place. I also was looking at it more in general, but I guess you're right. If it's only specifically about umbrella, I suppose it's not that big of a deal. And well I said, at least for me, he'd be more of a bit of ass and not full on asshole. The word I'd use more would be uncaring? Like he didn't seem to realize or care that his action could inconvenience someone else, but again we only have this 1 specific situation to go around and we didn't get to see how office lady would normally react to her umbrella missing.

Yes. I know it's a comedy one-shot and it's all for the purpose of the gag, but I agree with other commenters that at first I thought guy picked it by accident and so when it turned out, he did it intentionally, to me he came off as a bit of unsympathetic.

I got the impression that he took her umbrella specifically because he knows her and therefore knew he could return it rather than taking one he wouldn't possibly be able to give back. Rather considerate imo, even if taking an umbrella in the first place wasn't, at least he tried to do it "right."

Personally, I'd just have waved it off as a thing that happened if it had been mine, possibly request a favour in return more for the principle of it than anything else.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

You can BUY an apartment? Not a building, but a singular apartment?

And wow, since it cost anywhere between 10 and 90 million, that's a hefty chunk of her fortune already gone. Hope she's happy with the place 'cus she's definitely gonna have to stay there for a while at that price point.

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