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Yuri discussion 28 Feb 14:38
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I believe that the Yuri tag and Futanari tag should not have to be separated. Two women in love is the very definition of Yuri, regardless of whether they have different genitals or not. Additionally, it's validating for me, as a trans woman, to read romance manga involving women with alternative reproductive organs.

Trans woman x Cis woman relationships are still tagged as Yuri here, rare as it may be. E.g.: "Childhood Friend Yuri (?)", "The Story of a Girl Who Likes Girls, and a Girl Who Used to be a Guy".

Futanari is a bit different as it's not usually grounded in reality. A lot of times futanari characters are written as a "third gender." It's essentially up to the author how it's handled, which would make tagging it confusing imo.

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Midori IS an idiot. That much is a fact. And I said both characters were shitty and deserved each other. I never said she deserved to be abused. Paint the whole picture and don't lie by omission.

"I don't think she deserves to be abused, but she deserves to be with her abuser" is one hell of a technicality.

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Calling her an idiot with a cute face isn't abuse. He's an asshole but he's not abusing her. GTFO with this bullshit.

Please. He is absolutely being abusive. Insulting her privately, insulting and embarrassing her publicly, being dismissive of her concerns, etc. are things that hurt her emotionally and breed self doubt in her. It is emotional abuse, whether that's his intention or not.

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What is this? None of the characters are particularly bad people, and it's not as if they have done anything that wrong. But somehow I don't want any of them to end up with each other. Maybe it's just this author that writes characters where it seems like the best ending would be for the ferris wheel to fall over on them.

That's funny - I feel the opposite. None of them are perfect and they've all been a bit immature about it, but I can't help but really root for everyone. I want them all to be happy. They all feel well rounded and excellently characterized.

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So proud of Nika this chapter. She's the best. This was an extremely cathartic read after so much suspense. I was rooting for these two so hard.

I'm still curious about how Kyouko will come to terms with her feelings. I want her to be happy, despite her being immature and selfish at times.

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quietly mumbles under his breath: There has been no new chapters uploaded here in almost 2 months... I almost forgot this existed... I think at least a new page is long overdue...

We are waiting for the volume release because the website raws are super low quality and shoddily upscaled, so they're blurry as all hell. The wait is a bummer, but I think the raw quality would actively take away from the experience. Unfortunately we're probably looking at another 1.5 to 2.5 months before the volume is out.

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So when is chapter 7 released in Japan? In Yurihime May issue, sometime around the middle of March? Or has it recently been published in the March issue of Yurihime (18.01.2020)?

Chapter 6 was in the March issue, so Chapter 7 will be in the May issue (unless the author takes a break - she hasn't taken any thus far, but it's a possibility nonetheless).

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Hi... Can i ask you guys a question? Can i translate manga on this web into Vietnamese? Sorry if my English was bad T.T

I guess the best way would be to ask the scanlator of the specific manga you want to translate, but it's not exactly necessary. Almost everything on this site is unlicensed / not approved by the author, so translate whatever you like.

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I'm not really a fan of the answer Himari received from her sempai. It may be a form of love, but that is not the form of love Yori is looking for from Himari.

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Avatarkakeochi
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So here's a question for the progress junkies: how exactly do you foresee this series actually working if Koguma and Hino became an acknowledged yuri couple?

The dynamic so far, obviously, is that Hino fairly ruthlessly teases Koguma in a variety of ways. This is a time-honored courtship strategy (sometimes known as "first ruffle their feathers, then smooth them down").

How would this faux-adversarial dynamic come off between an established couple? (I can just imagine all the posts castigating Hino for being psychologically and emotionally abusive to her partner.)

Or is it a desire to move ahead to full-dress dom-sub play?

I mean, there are more avenues for progress than just becoming a couple. Personally, the type of progress I'd like to see is just having them get to know each other better. At the moment, they're like flirty acquaintances. Which is fine, of course, and I enjoy the series as is, but I think it could be even better if they added a bit of depth to the pair's relationship.

Take, for example, the hinted at ex-girlfriend of Hino-san, and whatever issues that may come along with that. It'd be really, really nice to see her talk about that with Koguma, and I'm sure the author could cover that topic without compromising the playful, teasing nature of their relationship.

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I initially picked this up when I had only read about a dozen or so yuri stories. Even then I could tell it was a good story, but at that time I was still blessed with being able to read incredible manga one after another. When it seemed like every story was on the level of Bloom Into You, Kisses, Sighs & Cherry-Blossom Pink, or Bocchi Kaibutsu, it didn't occur to me that it was pretty special in its own right. I guess I was a pretty spoiled reader at that point time. I ended up putting it on hold, as it seemed to be straying further and further from Ayaka and Yurine with each chapter, and the change in perspectives was throwing me off. Anyway, I decided to pick it back up as I've had a lot of spare time and increasingly slim pickings for series to read, and I'm really, really glad I did.

I think one of the things that impresses me the most about this series is that each couple comes with their own distinct character dynamics and concise, well thought out storyline (perhaps with the single exception being Ayaka and Yurine, who instead have a comparatively slow, meandering storyline over the course of the series). I think Canno really shows off their creativity and talent for storytelling throughout the series, by depicting the many forms love can take and all the muddy emotions that can get mixed in with it. Not a single couple fell flat for me in this regard, surprisingly enough. Even the ones I was most hesitant on initially still managed to pull off their stories in a way that resonated with me. Another thing that really impresses me is the art, though I don't have much to say about that. It's gorgeous and wonderfully expressive. Canno nails the romantic scenes as well.

This series would've been 10/10 for me if it weren't for the final volume leaving a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. I think I'm probably oversensitive to it, but having couples suddenly define themselves as "intimate friends" is so absurd, especially since it doesn't fit at all with their relationship (looking at you, Mizuki, what are you thinking). The bigger issue, to me at least, was Ayaka's "I've never heard of love" esque journey. The entire situation made her (and some of the people she spoke with) seem uncharacteristically dense. On top of that, the whole thing felt a little cobbled together, since Canno was trying to fit in every couple as a final send-off. Of course, closing out a manga like this is nothing short of a herculean task, so I can hardly be upset about some of the goodbyes feeling awkwardly forced in.

All in all, it was a pretty incredible ride. The characterization was always fantastic - there's not a single character I disliked. My favourite characters are probably Moe, Yurine, Ayaka, Izumi, Amane, Haine... yeah I could probably just list the entire cast. Really incredibly impressive how well written the everyone was. The poly trio was lovely, Mizuki and Moe were excessively adorable, Asuka and Mikaze were touching and heartbreaking, Aika and Haine made me feel all warm and fuzzy (I'd like to think they're in love the same way the other couples are). Ayaka and Yurine remain my favourite. Honestly, there's a lot I'd like to say about all the couples, but if I did, this comment would be really, really long. Anyway, it's a 9/10 story for me.

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What a touching metaphor for accepting yourself and your body. This says so much in so few pages. I was especially moved by the part where her boobies punched a hole in the ceiling.

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Yuri Project
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Having picked up AnoKiss after dropping (pausing) it 10 chapters in like 6 months ago, and having just finished the polyamory chapters... I'm really, really looking forward to this now. Even more so than I was when I first read the chapter.

Avatarkakeochi
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Oh this was good! What a great way to start it. I'm a bit nervous that it's going to be a cheating into poly situation, which would be unfortunate. That said, the colour pages give me hope that it'll be a bit more wholesome than that, so I'm really looking forward to it. It'd be nice to have a yuri series that actually does poly well.

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Avatarkakeochi
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@BV It'll be a little while due to internal circumstances (sorry!) but we will definitely continue scanlating the series.

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Avatarkakeochi
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I, like plenty of other people, used to love this manga because it was silly and there was at least a semblance of progression in the story. Now, I don't know what the hell is going on, and this latest chapter just seems like the author jerking off. Forums are the exact place to voice valid concerns about a series, and everyone's entitled to voice their opinion. It's beyond irritating to see people who don't have such concerns act like they're the only one with opinions that matter. So fuck you and anyone else who wants to silence criticism of a stagnating series.

I never said he couldn't complain. Just that he shouldn't complain if he hasn't even read the chapter. But if defending someone who stops by to whine about a chapter he hasn't even read is the hill you wanna die on, then go for it, champ.

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It was so long since last chapter that i forgot those two where introduced in the last chapter. Well,doesn't change the fact that i kinda skip over the chapter because i don't found it really interesting. I'm not that verse in baseball so it's just annoyed me and the whole "side characters being further in relation than MC" always tick me off, especially in a manga where progression is not the prime focus. God know before we had something that ressemble progression between Inu and Neko, if we had progress at one point cause i believe it will just shenanigans all the way.

If you skipped over the chapter, you should also consider not commenting on it.

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This was a good chapter! Painfully short, but good nonetheless. It is quite a pleasure seeing these two together again.

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Damn, looks like everybody thinks I'm off the mark again. I aways feel like the goofy side kick that is completely clueless to what's really going on.

I think when it comes to Sakagami, he's not really there to act as a rival. Hinako and Asahi both have pretty major emotional issues to work through still, and Hinako's mom will likely be addressed as well. Additionally, I think we'll probably get a fair bit more from Subaru. With the way Chapter 6 is setting up the conflict for the volume, I don't see how there would be room to add in a love triangle. I think at worst, he might ask her out and get turned down.

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@ClaudeSP89, @feihong

I don't have anything in particular to add, but I wanted to say that those were both really great interpretations of the story and I think they're pretty on base.

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No, I think the story is a coming out story, and the author has confusingly chosen to make the "coming out" part of it implicit instead of explicit. I'm concerned this is because of norms among yuri readers that they prefer these things to be unspoken, even in a situation where it really grinds against the entire concept of the story.

Coming out IS THE WAY Hinako overcomes her issues with being normal and repressing herself. If she ends the story like, "Oh well, I like this one woman but I will absolutely not think about myself more generally than that," then that does not seem as if she's done a very good job overcoming her repression, which was, like, the whole arc of the story.

(although apparently she instantly came to terms with it and could openly admit her feelings to the sister, and now the arc of the story is about that one lady's sister complex, so I actually have no clue what the fuck is going on anymore)

It sounds to me like you've erroneously placed this story into a box that it doesn't belong in, and as it repeatedly shows that it doesn't belong in that box, you decide to blame the story for not doing things exactly the way you imagined it would, rather than admit that your preconceived notions were incorrect.

I think that's the problem, she doesn't think far ahead. since she lost her parents I think she probably already feels like a parent herself so she'd think she's betraying her little sister if she ever gives her attention to someone else. but I dunno, that's just what I'm thinking lol

Yeah, I agree with this. She's spent most of her life as a caretaker for her sister. She's been forced into this role for most of her life, so it's pretty much all she knows. Plus, Subaru is only 16 - Asahi's probably still got at least a decade of raising Subaru ahead of her. Sure, the more level-headed response might've been "Ask me again when Subaru is out of the house and married," but it's abundantly clear she's pushing the idea of love away from her. Planning to try and find love 5, 10 years down the line is incongruent with her current outlook.

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This is probably my favourite chapter thus far. So many great moments. The translator mentioned this as well while he was working on it - the author really managed to pack so many memorable scenes into one chapter.

I love that Subaru confronts Hinako about the obvious - and I love that Hinako doesn't deny the possibility. She's been a bit slow on the uptake, and that's totally normal considering her circumstances, but she's crushing so hard it's impossible for even her not to see.

I also love that we're getting to know more about Satou-san. It's totally understandable the way she's closed herself off. Their home life is nothing short of tragic, so she's dedicated herself to making Subaru as happy as possible. It's really sweet, and really noble. Still, it probably really hurts Subaru to know that her sister is sacrificing so much for her sake. She's at the age now where she can be more independent, and I think she'd be happier knowing Satou is happy.

Subaru is best girl. It kills me to think that underneath her bubbly persona, she must really resent herself for being a burden on her sister.

Edit: For any uploaders or staff around, can we add Chapter 6's title, "The Other Side of the Moon" to the series page? Also, If we'd like to separate into volumes, Vol 1 ends with chapter 5, so we're in Vol 2 territory now.

last edited at Jan 26, 2020 6:47PM

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I might be reading this wrong, but it feels like the final line of the chapter is Ayane-chan's internal dialogue. I hope this is the case, personally, as I think the last few chapters have done a great job of showing how much she cares for Sana. Having that explicitly confirmed through her internal thoughts is very satisfying.

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Probablty something to do with her dead parents and not bringing problems to Subaru, and focusing on rasing her

That's my interpretation as well. She's cast her own desires aside and dedicated herself to making her sister happy in what would normally be a pretty tragic upbringing. It reminds me of (3 Gatsu no Lion minor spoilers) Akari becoming the de facto mother of her two sisters, resulting in her not having much of a private life outside of her family.

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Sure, but the point is that she doesn't even consider it.
When all you worry about is dating someone of the opposite sex and you chicken out every time at the last moment and the last few days all you can think of is someone of the same sex and still the word "gay" doesn't come to mind?? Twenty years ago, that would have been odd. Today it is, let's say, difficult. So I really expect the "big reveal" next episode. If not, still a good manga, but a bit silly.
I'm not complaining though, I don't necessarily need realism in my Yuri.

People have an impressive ability to repress things they don't want to think about. There are many comments in this thread alone of people talking about how long it took for them to realize that they might not actually be straight. It's not the case for everybody, but dismissing it as "silly" is, frankly, completely asinine. Personally, it took me 10 years, so I struggle to see where you're coming from when you imply it's not realistic, or that it's silly.