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Aniale
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Some people kind of forgetting that Nene behavior hurting not only Amane but Kou too. Like, she dragged Kou without her knowing in this cafe to show off. Yes, to Amane’s workplace, when she working. And then just cut her conversation with Amane and leave Amane crying alone. What Kou feels about it? Is it ok to do this to Kou whom Nene clamed to love? And I want to know what author want to say with this story, but it’s doesn’t change the fact that her actions has been unnecessary cruel.

last edited at Jun 26, 2019 7:20AM

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^I don’t know if I want some assassin plot. It’s ok to be unwrapping drama without sex scenes on background. And I couldn’t find dark themes in the original, just some really toxic circle. Paradise was mostly sweet either, if you don’t take into account the ending of this relationships.
BTW I still like One.

Aniale
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And I don’t want Kou to be with Nene. Nene forced herself on Kou with: “Look only at me. Me!” Very unhealthy start. And there was unnecessary cruelty towards Amane.

Aniale
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Wow, chap 15 so good.

Aniale
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joined May 28, 2018

Showing pictures and pointing out that Amane don’t have a chance is not nice but understandable. And then she go full psycho with: “Yes, suffer! Be mine!” Not like: “I am sorry that I’m hurting you but you need to know, you need to change”. Another manipulative psycho and Amane deserve better than this.

Nene and Kou – I’m not sure what author wants to tell. Are Nene using Kou or she genuinely like her?

Aniale
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Uuugh. But I want to see Nene reasoning and this:

Man, the day Amane realizes she deserves better than that, the day she grows a pair to say "fuck you all" to those who mistreated her will be fucking glorious. Arghhhhhhhhh

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I really like art in this. And I think this chapter shows special bond that formed between main characters and some foreshadowing.

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Here you go. In recent chap there is reasonable explanation for previous actions, no? For me - yes.
I think the way is Won anatomy looks is quite correct for a swimmer.

Aniale
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Heh, Chito and Yuu... It hurts. Tkmiz delivers like always.

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I like this version more because it doesn't have this gimmick about little girl who thinks she’s an alien. That was some artificial LN stuff. Now it feels more romantic and nice.

Aniale
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At last, some progress. Thou I hope that this roommate don’t be another love interest of Kase. Someone suggest that she can have girlfriend by herself – that can be good.

Aniale
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Nobody's annoyed--I'm certainly not--and you did a good job explaining what you meant. We just disagreed, that's all.

You know, comparing one's own response with other people's and, ideally, being specific about where the response comes from--discussion, I think it's called. :)

Oh, no, you right. I’m just not that disappointed to continue untie my point of view. I started to feel that I make irky face on a fun party, lol. I hope remaining chapters hit me better, because I really like this series.

Aniale
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Look, I liked this chapter, but I wanted more from it. Yeah, I should keep that for myself, but it’s too late, lol. I just tried to explain what my problem is and don’t wanted to make someone feel annoyed, but it happened anyway. So I stop.

last edited at May 29, 2019 1:44PM

Aniale
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Nuanced and dramatic is not the same thing. I wanted to see more small and nice details, the closest thing in this chapter was scene when Touko and Yuu touched tips of each other shoes. Otherwise it all was not so poetic, if it’s the right word, like some great previous chapters. I think cute and happy parts of the story can be like that too. That’s all.

Aniale
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I think people misunderstand me and that’s totally okay, lol. My English is not good, I have low vocabulary and more over I do have not so overpositive opinion. Sorry. Let’s say I want it to be this cute and happy, but not so bland in how it’s done. It’s not about characters, it’s about presentation. After all it's my personal feelings and it’s good that others enjoy reading it so much.

last edited at May 29, 2019 3:47AM

Aniale
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Sometimes ex-lovers can be friends, but Amane and Nene can’t. Amane needs to acknowledge that she was dumped completely. And both of them need to go separated ways. And if Nene wants relationships with Kou like: “Aren’t I best girl?” – Kou, run away from this.

last edited at May 29, 2019 3:45AM

Aniale
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The whole series previous to this point has been nothing but “nuanced interactions”.

Well, yeah, and I like it. Because of that I have my mixed feelings, not because of what characters feel at this point - I happy for most of them. I hope that it will be back.

last edited at May 28, 2019 11:24PM

Aniale
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I have mixed feelings about recent chapter. I am happy and slightly disappointed. I wanted more nuanced interactions.

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Seju is clearly not okay and this is what was shown there. Some can try asking her out for her behavior, but it will be meaningless, because she not in right state of mind. She is not reasonable human being. Yeah, doctor needed and long long time ago. But like that, Won tactics from day one is better.

If mental illness is such stigma, then hotel for two have more points from me, lol. After all, this trope with pure new love is presented in this age gap lesbian dramas all the time. Like all the time. And I like it, when it meets my criteria, after all it what fiction for. But it is still sad that so much people in real life can’t get help there.

It's not a spoiler, right? I hope so.

last edited at May 28, 2019 12:49PM

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If you go back Blastaar mentioned that the main story

Oh! Yeah, I read it. For me this story more simple. Seju and Sumin loved each other for sure in the past, just, you know normal first love. But in a main story, after 10 years, they were “sex friends” that mixed obsession, revenge and guilt with long shuttered love. Sungji not a bad character, I personally like her more than some of the heroines in this type of stories, it’s just hard for me to care for her and her with Sumin. But she played her role in the story, partly leading others to finally breaking the circle. And her family was funny, lol. Won I like much more in terms of personality. But again it’s me.

And in real life what Seju, and maybe Sumin, needed is good psychotherapist and pills, not just sleeping pills and some island with hot girl, lol. But, yeah, it’s simple, nice story.

last edited at May 27, 2019 11:32PM

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I think the inconsistency is the writing quality of the “destined love” vs “real world/new loves”. Which yeah is completely up to the individual to evaluate, but enough people don’t think the latter is up to par that’s all

And I would guess the reason is because the supposed “unreal” destiny-like relationship is actually depicted more realistically with 2 characters who seem real in so far that they have a lot of personality problems and so on, while the relationships that are supposed to be real life-like are with avatar characters with zero negative qualities lol

Sorry, I don’t quite get it, which is which? And where is “destined” love? Sumin and Sungji? For each their own, sure. Right now I want to see closure of Seji story. I want to see her in different circumstances, because for me she is one of the protagonists. Over the course of story she become more than some typical first love of older woman that go bad. Yeah, she could've go to the sunset in the end and that all, but I was happy to hear that there is more chapters just for her and new nice character. I only hope that Won have backstory too, lol.

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Going to toss in here that even in fiction it's more complex. The romance genre is full to overflowing with stories about relationships that didn't work out, the previous partner died, etc.and the protagonist goes on to find a new love who's just as good if not better than the old one.

That’s also true. I just somewhat tired of this specific trope in korean dramas. Too much of that, lol.

And I don’t think there was intention for the main story to describe “one and forever special love”. For me it was story about trying to finally letting go of unhealthy and meaningless relationships despite lingering feelings and all love in the past. It was hard for all participants, there were mistakes and missteps, bad and good intentions, and I want to see them doing better. Sumin is there for sure and now Seju maybe can be too. She has complicated circumstances and now has a chance to end her “habit”, her lifestyle, like Nami was trying to convince her all the time. Maybe it’s not the best writing about new love interest appearing like that, but it’s not inconsistent.

last edited at May 27, 2019 11:28AM

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^Well that’s one point of view. Love can be to the end of the life, but it doesn’t mean there can be only one. New bonds do not work like replacements of others and they can be as deep. Like parallel or even intersecting lines in one heart. That’s why thou Sumin admits in one point that she still loves Seju, in the same time she loves and choses Sungji, because their bond bring completion for them. And Seju and Sumin bond is rotten, they needed to get out of it and they did. Because of that I don’t see why Seju can’t be protagonist, she complex character who can find better lifestyle and person to be with.

Yeah, I don't like this type of "love one and forever from kindergarten", lol. Life can be more complex than that and I wanna see it in fiction.

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Even if relationships starts from underlying motive that doesn’t mean they can’t grow in something more. And even mostly good relationships can go wrong because of people or world around. As for Sumin and Seju, their relationships have what they needed and even if there were a lot of bad and unhealthy things in it, they were afraid of losing it. Like Seju said in latest chapters it was “habit”. Bad habit.
Although, when Sumin cheated, for Sungji in that moment appeared new girl, you know for “healing”. This webtoon nothing more but consistent, lol.

Aniale
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Aww, ok, it's better than I expected. Wait, why is 14 y.o. girl is drinking coffee and reading newspaper in pajamas like some old man? Heh.

last edited at May 23, 2019 6:21AM