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joined Feb 21, 2018

Chapter is long but it inconsistent switch between flashback(which they did a lot) or filler episodes like diet, swimsuit episode. They need more episodes like firework festival date, or Hanabi's mother visiting (with less flashback) which will fit more for longer episodes.

You don't watch too many CGDCT do You? Nothing about what you said should prevent a full episode format.

last edited at Apr 10, 2018 8:36PM

Yuri Queen
Amanchu! discussion 10 Apr 16:31
joined Feb 21, 2018

My Google translate skills are not as good as I had hoped but I'm pretty sure The dude proposed to Pikari and she accepted. He asks something about getting married one day and she says yes. Can a fluent speaker confirm or deny?

Yeah, basically. He didn't mean it as a proposal, but Pikari took it that way.

And with that I'm done with this series. Worst yuri bait of the decade, taking the belt from Hibike.

Yuri Queen
Amanchu! discussion 10 Apr 15:40
joined Feb 21, 2018

With the new season coming, in case anyone still had even the slightest hope for subtext or yuri.

Latest chapters have Pikari and Kokoro going in a date for his birthday. Its actually fairly romantic (lots of hand holding and looking into each other's eyes) and its clear that Pikari is falling for him if she isn't in love already, despite him being like 4 years younger than her. Dotty was true to her word about supporting their love as well and was basically stalking them throughout.

Eeeh? Here the chapter on question
https://comic.mag-garden.co.jp/assets/files/amanchu180205/HTML5/pc.html#/page/19
I don´t see that development youre talking, Pikari look pretty oblivious and Teko was there mostly time.
See that previous chapter Teko and Pikari are usual this spoiler don´t look accurate.
And the next chapter is something unrelated

My Google translate skills are not as good as I had hoped but I'm pretty sure The dude proposed to Pikari and she accepted. He asks something about getting married one day and she says yes. Can a fluent speaker confirm or deny?

Yuri Queen
Citrus discussion 09 Apr 08:38
joined Feb 21, 2018

I don't understand why everyone thinks that if Mei chose Yuzu she would have to come out of the closet to everyone. She could, you know, just choose not to get married at a stupidly young age and keep her relationship with Yuzu on the down low.

Yuri Queen
Their Story discussion 05 Apr 10:47
joined Feb 21, 2018

Seriously, folks, would you rather not have these short ones?

Yeah, if the author is working on these shorts then she isn't working on the main story. She is only one person and can only do so much at once.

joined Feb 21, 2018

Is she dead for real?
Please spoil me some info..:(

dont know. Judging by in-game random dialogue, Bronya thinks that Seele will one day return to her.

last edited at Apr 5, 2018 3:07AM

Yuri Queen
Anime season 02 Apr 19:49
joined Feb 21, 2018

First, saying that the there is no doubt the PC is male and then saying that it's a fact there is no gender selection makes no sense. Is it high probability or are you stating a fact that you read somewhere?

You literally said "like saying Trainer-san for pretty much everything." You need to get your argument straight.

I love how the girl wanting to also be a trainer is somehow her wanting to be with the trainer to you. So does Special Week wanting to be like Silent Sazuka means she wants to be with Sazuka? The contradictions are building higher.

Also, that isn't the only yuri girl. They have two girls kissing in the games promo video and both have already made an appearance in the anime.

@Nevri maybe I'm just spoiled by games like Honkai Impact and Love Live that has more yuri than otaku pandering that I'm not based enough to pass judgement on a game thag doesn't even have a release date.

last edited at Apr 2, 2018 7:53PM

Yuri Queen
Anime season 02 Apr 17:15
joined Feb 21, 2018

How is it gender neutral if some call him onii-chan? It's not once in a blue moon, it's how all the younger girls call him.

I literally said "Trainer-san" is gender neutral and "onii-san" isn't. You also said that all the girls mostly call the PC "trainer-san". Which is It? Do they called him mostly "trainer-san" or "onii-chan"? I just don't think you are being honest right now.

You can't deny the intention of a work. Im@s has female producer. It doesn't chance the fact that you can only be male in the actual game, so a female producer would never be MC.

I can when you are just making it up out of thin air based on other games. The game isn't even out and yet you are making grand statements about it and projecting those preconcieved judgments onto the anime.

The whole horse thing is already creepy, but then you have things like the groping (the girls kick him? Right, like horses do. How about making other people actually react to his actions, that are clearly wrong? He did that in public and no one cared). And phrases like "hold tight to her reins". It might no be the intention, but it is creepy.

Now you're just being ridiculous. Monster girls are just creepy in general now? Yeah, no.

Thing is, when you keep defending that she has two moms, you're implying the show is relevant to yuri. I'm just saying it's not. I'm pretty sure they'll never imply the two mother's were a couple, to begin with. It's just a gimmicky and a way to not put more male except for the self-insert.

Yeah, I'm done. It's clear that you have this preconceived notion that even the slightest hint of yuri is just bait to fool you. You don't care what actually happens in the show, you already had your opinion before it even aired.

last edited at Apr 2, 2018 5:17PM

Yuri Queen
Anime season 02 Apr 11:21
joined Feb 21, 2018

This thread isnt only about yuri anime, yuri fans can like anime that has no yuri at all. But since you tried painting the young horse girl being raised by her second mother as creepy Im not sure what to say at this point. I really can't take this criticism seriously. "Trainer-san" is gender neutral. The only argument you have for otaku self insert is the girls using "onii-chan" once in a blue moon. Nothing about how they treat the trainer at all, only what they refer to the faceless PC that is absent from the anime.

It's clear you are making an argument based on other games and not this game. Worse, you are then projecting your judgement of the game onto the anime that has male and female trainers.

Yuri Queen
Anime season 02 Apr 10:24
joined Feb 21, 2018

Well, it's clear that you did extensive research on the yuri potential of the game with a "soon" 2018 release date. But it seems you managed to just miss the very few starting minutes of the show. Then you completely dismissed the whole "two moms with no father mentioned".

Also, got to give it to you to not recommend a game no one has even played. It could be great like Love Live or creepy like Kancolle, but lets just wait for the release before throwing around baseless judgements.

How about this, just watch the show for what it is without putting your own made up creepy spin on it?

last edited at Apr 2, 2018 10:29AM

Yuri Queen
joined Feb 21, 2018

No, you clearly didn't since its not what's in the text that I'm having a problem with, it's what is missing from the text. The manga brushes a huge issue under the rug and ends in a bit of a flop.

Yuri Queen
Anime season 02 Apr 10:05
joined Feb 21, 2018

Clearly not since the game doesn't even have a release date. What we do have is the anime, and it explains at the very beginning how the horse girls are created and raised. You say no one cares and yet the trainer is constantly getting his ass kicked, the leg groping got him kicked in the face twice for being mistaken for a pervert. Other than the leg grope how does he talk about the girls like they are horses? Literally, the only thing he does that seems out of the ordinary for a sports anime is grope a stranger's leg to judge their running capability. The rest of the show he has treated them like a regular human athlete.

Yuri Queen
joined Feb 21, 2018

Yea, it seems we will have a hard time when you continue, almost intentionally, to miss my point entirely.

I insist that Yuzumori is feeling puppy love because puppy love is literally the phrase associated with young children's infatuation/admiration of an adult. I'm refering to the English phrase, not to Japanese tropes.

I'm not dismissing Mamikas feelings at all. My issue is with how the manga completely dismisses Yuzumoris feelings and how they would change over time as she grew up.

last edited at Apr 2, 2018 9:56AM

Yuri Queen
Anime season 02 Apr 09:47
joined Feb 21, 2018

The part about Special Week's parents in Ume musume was rather interesting, to put it lightly.

https://imgur.com/a/jfOAU

I still find it creepy in general, like these girls are supposed to be more horse than human. Like, even in this scene, since one of them is human, it could be seen as a owner making her horse breed to get a new horse. Then she sends her horse to the trainer so she'll learn how to race.
That's probably why the game is creepy all around, with the "raise your own horse girl" line.
I really won't bother watching it.

Funny how the show bothered to explain how these girls are born and where they come from and yet you want to put some creepy spin on it that doesnt actually exist.

Yuri Queen
joined Feb 21, 2018

I'm talking about psychology AND story telling. It's not either/or. The story heavily focuses on the psychology of a lolicon and whether or not they would still love someone if they grew up.

There is only one piece of evidence you need to know that Yuzumori will change and that is that she is a child. There is absolutely no reason to believe she wouldn't change as a person. As Nezchan pointed out, a 19 year old is not the same person as the 9 year old. A person goes through their most drastic mental and physical changes between those two ages. There is a reason why a child "in love" is described as puppy love. We never got to see that puppy love survive puberty, which I see as a great shame for a series that focused so much on the lolicons love surviving the same thing.

Yuri Queen
Anime season 02 Apr 08:08
joined Feb 21, 2018

ookaaayyy I was bothered with the trainer (I don't want him to be the guy's self insert like the captain in kancolle)

Oh, he's nothing like how the admiral was handled in the KanColle anime. He's so, so much worse

A trainer who treats horse girls like horses is worse than the faceless captain that marries all his ships? Yeah, sure.

Yuri Queen
joined Feb 21, 2018

Mamika literally admits to being a lolicon, she is asked it several times and then accepts it. And lets not do this bull "lolicon=/=pedo".

You have completely misunderstood my original point. Yuzumori is a child, when children grow older their brains develop more. When they go through puberty they change significantly, especially when it comes to sexuality. It's not about a couple growing apart, it's about a child being pumped with hormones and changing who they are, what they think and what they like. It's the very reason why pedophilia is illegal in the modern world in the first place.

This manga makes it a point to discuss whether or not a "lolicon" would like the same child if she were to grow up. But it never asks if that child would like the adult as they develop. It only looks at one side of the relationship.

Yuri Queen
joined Feb 21, 2018

Hate to rain on the parade but the comments on the video explain that it was just a joke by the video maker. The actual book doesn't say who the girlfriend is.

last edited at Mar 31, 2018 8:36AM

Yuri Queen
joined Feb 21, 2018

@Blastaar it is a plothole in the sense that love surviving with age is a big theme of this series but it only asks it for one of the participants and not the other. It makes it a point that even though Mamika is a pedophile she will still love Yuzumori even if she becomes an adult. She will miss the little girl but will still be happy to be with the grown up version. But the plot completely forgets to ask the same about Yuzumori and a time skip could have at least helped resolve it.

Yuri Queen
leash (korean raw) 31 Mar 08:18
joined Feb 21, 2018

Author said that it was cancelled due to all the Lezhin drama. They also said that once Lezhins copyright for the series expires they will try to continue it somewhere else.

Couldn't care less about the series myself, too much rape.

Yuri Queen
joined Feb 21, 2018

It doesn't look like an actual epilogue. More like an alternate ending, makes sense since it was never released with the rest of the series.

Yuri Queen
joined Feb 21, 2018

“Platonic love” does NOT mean “no sex”: it means “no lust or sexual desire.” Mimika spends the entire story trying to control her desire to physically express her love (and sometimes only barely succeeding); Yuzumori is all for it herself, but she accepts that they’re both too young for that aspect of their romantic relationship at the moment and they agree to stay in love and wait until they’re legal.

“Platonic love” is about transcending (and therefore eliminating) physical desire; being a couple while restraining your physical desire until an appropriate time or stage of life is called “love.”

Yuzumori is all in for it now as a child that hasn't gone through puberty. From what we have been shown we dont know if her puppy love for Mimika survives with her getting older. They keep asking the same question whether or not Mamika will still love Yuzumori as she grows older. Buy they never ask once if Yuzumori will still love Mamika.

The whole point of not allowing adults to sleep with children is because children are incapable of giving consent. Their brains are literally not developed enough by society's standards to make a sound decision. Now we will never know if Yuzumori developed to a point of realizing that her infatuation with Mamika was love or not. The 6 year gap was too little and with no sign, a kiss perhaps, to show that their feelings are still the same there remains a open ending/plothole.

Maybe the author should have spent more time building their relationship, and given herself more room to work with with the ending instead of wasting it on 15 chapters of elementary school drama.

joined Feb 21, 2018

For anyone wondering, the game is getting it's global release today for US and EU. Hopefully means subtitles for cutscenes.

Yuri Queen
joined Feb 21, 2018

My comment had nothing to do with what the point of romance stories is. I was praising how the character's love was presented.

You literally just contradicted yourself. Romance stories are about presenting the characters love. Here we have little enough to just tag it as subtext instead of yuri.

That may be what you personally enjoy in romance, but ultimately the genre is about showing romantic love. How intimately the story delves into the characters' private moments is at the author's total discretion. For instance it's very common to leave the characters' having sex up to the reader's imagination.

It's not romantic love if there is no sexual acts. It would instead be platonic love by definition.

I mean if that's what you got out of the ending it's fine to interpret it that way. I think their love is on the right track personally. Even though Yuzumori is growing and changing in looks and personality over time, Mimika still loves her. That counts for more than any kiss.

No, it doesn't since it leaves too many questions that the reader is forced to interpret and make up their own stories, which is not the point of reading a story written by someone else. What do you think a plothole is?

Yuri Queen
joined Feb 21, 2018

I admire that the author respected the characters enough to give them some privacy.

That's not the point of reading romance stories.

That's a non sequitur. This particular romance story happened to not end with a kiss and that's fine.

How is it a non sequitur? You said that the author respected the characters privacy, there is no respect of privacy in a romance story. The whole point is getting to see their most private of life events.

33 chapters and no kiss isn't fine. For all we know they never actually got together after Yuzumori grew up and realized that she wasn't gay after all.