I find it weird (and also a bit funny) that some people still think Yuu is/can be asexual and/or aromantic. In the first chapters? Sure, we could give it the benefit of the doubt. 37 chapters later, after a confession already happened, after everything we have seen her experiment with Touko and her point of view on how Yuu feels about her? Yeah, right. Seems too much of a stretch for me, and I suspect these people are trying to project themselves on the characters and push an LGBT+ agenda perhaps out of a desire for LGBT representation in media. And nothing wrong with that, really. I know the feeling because I'm gay myself. But these 3 girls are simply not what some people want them to be, and I am not sure if Nakatani, being from Japan, knows about all these labels herself (I am Western and many of these words are unknown to me).

Anyways, maybe you could reread chapters 16, 20 and 22 to see how Yuu is sexually attracted to Touko. I won't try to put her love for Touko into question so that's it. For me it's romantic.

With Touko and Sayaka it's easier, they are hornier than Yuu and unlike her they don't try to deny and repress their feelings and desires to themselves, so we can see their thoughts more clearly. And Sayaka is clearly a lesbian, this is even confirmed in her light novel. Touko loves Yuu despite all the issues that are meant to be resolved in this arc.

So no aromantic/asexual vibe from these 3 girls, you can call Yuu demisexual if you wanna push a label, I think this one is pretty accurate for her. But demisexual is part of the asexual spectrum, though? If yes, then it's fine, I think that label suits her.

We already have Maki as the aromantic asexual of this series. And he is there because he is a contrast to Yuu and a self-insert for the reader, as Nakatani stated, so you can self-insert as him.

This is just my opinion and I hope no one feels offended.

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Although physically, petite girls like Yuu might not be Sayaka's type.

Now that we have a few more data points about what attracts Sayaka to Touko, it’s notable that she really does emphasize her physical beauty.

I’m not saying her affection is only superficial—she does acknowledge Touko’s other positive qualities. But since Sayaka obviously admired Touko, I did find it just a tiny bit odd that when Miyako first asked what Sayaka loved about (the then-unnamed) Touko, she replied, “Her face.”

Then her last thoughts before the confession itself are about how beautiful Touko is and how she’s definitely Sayaka’s “type.”

While Yuu did tell her family that her senpai was beautiful, and we got the familiar “her eyelashes are so long” thing in one of the clinches, the topic of looks/physical beauty really has been pretty minimal in the Yuu/Touko relationship.

(In fact, it’s Doujima who brings it up while trying to do het-boy bonding with Maki, whose “I don’t really have a type” answer doesn’t quite mean what Doujima probably thinks it does.)

I don’t even think I would have noticed this except that looks as the basis of attraction comes up so infrequently in the series.

Nothing wrong with liking a cute girl's beauty a lot :p especially if you're gay af like Sayaka.
The only time we see Yuu thinking about Touko's beauty is in chapter 16, and she puts it next to the other things (personality-wise) that she likes about Touko, so I think it's important for Yuu as well, but since the manga is pretty focused on Touko's issues, we don't get to see these type of "physical beauty appreciation" situations often. But even Yuu was impressed when she saw Touko for the first time, her expression said it all :p

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^ I think this is the original Futaribeya, the series was born from this one-shot(?) Which would explain why the art isn't as good and why it's not as subtext-y as the serialization. I could be wrong though.

^ If the first cour gets to the play they will be adapting till volume 6, which ends all chances of a season 2 because what could they animate? I am sure yagakimi will end at volume 8 (Nakatani said she is 80% done), or even 7. Adapting 2 volumes and a bit more in 12 episodes seems unlikely unless they add filler.
I dont see how they could rearrange stuff either. This series follows a sequence of events and is structured by volumes, adapting a chapter from volume 5 or 6 in a second season after they did the play in the first seems difficult because these 2 volumes pretty much consisted of building up the play and preparing for it. I dont mention vol 4 because I think they will do a faithful adaptation of vol 3 and 4 in the remaining episodes, as the interview suggested.

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The anime is confirmed to have 13 episodes, not 12. It's listed in the official sources and you can check there.
I am sure it will have an open end. In the most recent interview with Nakatani, she said they thought about giving it an original end, but since it may not set well with the fans of the original work, they will follow the manga as closely as they can. There's no way they can reach the play at this point, they are even animating the special chapters and the interview also mentioned animating the 4komas from the volumes. My bet is doing 4 volumes in 12 episodes (they seem to be doing 1 vol in 3 episodes) and finish with the last episode (13) featuring chapter 23 and closing with Touko and Yuu's date to the aquarium.
Plus, Nakatani asked fans on Twitter to preorder the BD and DVD so that yagakimi can get a season 2 which will give the anime a bigger chance of following the original as much as possible, so it's a fact that the first cour wont reach volume 6.

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Also, the way Yuu called out to Touko "I won't fall in love with you" is such an obvious manipulation of Touko's feelings that I'm kind of annoyed I missed it the first time reading this.

What do you mean?

In episode 6 she says 'I won't fall in love with you' - the reason why Touko fell in love with her - in hopes that will get her attention when reasoning with her doesn't. It's kind of like dangling drugs in front of an addict.

That's just me trying to interpret Yuu's actions though.

Yeah, but in the end it worked for both of them, Yuu wanted to stay with Touko and Touko wanted to stay with Yuu, so Touko ended up happy (and Yuu was sad because she understood the implications of staying with Touko and went along with them out of her own desire)

Also, the way Yuu called out to Touko "I won't fall in love with you" is such an obvious manipulation of Touko's feelings that I'm kind of annoyed I missed it the first time reading this.

What do you mean?

Touko: “If I love her the way she is now, then it means I would stop feeling that way if she ever changed. Right?”

Answer: Wrong, shithead. It doesn’t mean that in the least. Sure, she might change in such a way that you would love her less, but she might also change so that you loved her the same amount or (get this) even more.

For such a smart person, Touko, you’re really kind of an idiot.

[Sorry, just watched episode 6. Touko didn’t seem scary or sinister to me (despite the setting of The Railroad Crossing and Nearby Culvert of the Apoclypse).

She just seemed like kind of an idiot.]

Touko was talking about people in general (and pointing out to herself being loved), not about Yuu. TL making it look like she was talking about Yuu makes Touko seem more manipulative IMO. sigh Hidive subs...

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I prefer Asenshi to Hidive. I dont like Hidive and the way they take liberties but that's my opinion. The way Asenshi omits honorifics and stuff can be annoying but I can hear the characters use them so it's not that bad IMO.
^ I disagree that "Im not lonely either" and "I have somebody too" can convey the same meaning. But again, that's just me. I saw the mistake in episode 3 and read comments about how people took it as Yuu talking about herself rather than about Touko, so yeah, I doubt anime onlys could infer that Yuu is "talking about Touko through herself".

I just wanna see Rei and Koyomi comforting Yuu ;_; maybe Akari can join Koyomi too

First Yuu must realize that she needs comforting. That's the crux on her side right now, she doesn't acknowledge that she is heartbroken.

Rei and her friends can approach her first, she looked terrible in chapter 35, I think it would be a matter of time before Rei notices something, especially after Yuu asked her for advice on confessing. And Koyomi already noticed sth was wrong with Yuu. Of course, it may be hard to make Yuu react in her current numb state. I wonder if sth will happen which will make her snap (and what could it be) or if she will remain like this until Touko tells her she wants to be in a formal relationship with her.

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I just wanna see Rei and Koyomi comforting Yuu ;_; maybe Akari can join Koyomi too

Some people sure overreact about the side characters getting focus. Volume 6 was entirely focused on Touko and Yuu, especially on Touko and her problems. Chapter 35 was about them as well. This short chapter about Sayaka is setting up future developments in which I am sure she will be envolved. We also saw some development on Touko's side in the first scene. And rather than a side character , Sayaka is the tritagonist of this series.

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Does anyone know if Chapter 36 is the end of the volume 6?

Volume 6 ended with chapter 34. Someone should fix that. Also, chapter 23 and special 5 are part of volume 5.

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I am sure she was already in love by chapter 16 but in denial. Nakatani did a great work using tje visual storytelling to prove this, including parallels to early chapters.

But as it happens, I just came across a review of the first two volumes of this series at a long-established and well-respected yuri manga/anime website

Erica? Well-respected? Her opinions are trash, she is so biased and projects politics and LGBT real life stuff into yuri that most of the things she says are plain wrong or just dumb. As far as I'm concerned she is not a referent in the Western yuri community (and she is disliked by some yuri fans), maybe she is in Tumblr though.
For example, she is fixated on believing Yuu is asexual despite all the evidence against that statement, all because she wants asexual representation in manga.

That's some nice subtext you've got there.

Manga ending before anime is highly unlikely in most cases. And it won't be the case here. Volume 6 was out on September 26th yeah , and it shows chapter 34 was the last of that volume. And yeh like I said, volume 7 planned for Spring 2019. It says so at the end of volume 6.

Oh my goodness me. This is one of the most wonderful things I have ever read. And now I have to wait for god-knows-how-long for maybw the final chapter...? My heart can't handle it. This manga has made me feel so happy.

Um, I think the manga is coming to its end. The next chapter is in October, I feel probably like last 3 chapters to end? Now just resolution on their relationship.
Doubt the author will go on showing their lovey dovey life afterwards unfortunately. :(

Note to self: Stock up on pitch forks and torches to hand to the angry mob when asakura89's jinx comes true.

Haha, I love this manga, it'll be sad to see it end and not have another one to follow. But all good things come to an end and I'm glad this one will be complete! It's a masterpiece and Nakatani is awesome for her art and symbolism.

And I do apologize for the confusion and worry to some of you; I did indeed confused the manga chapter date with the anime release date.

I do still think though that the manga will end this year with 7 volumes (Seven Seas has license for 7 volumes). If there's one chapter release per month Oct., Nov., Dec. then there's 3 more chapters left until end. Each volume of Bloom Into You have about 5 chapters per volume on average, I think Volume 6 will contain up to chapter 33 which leave 5 chapters for Volume 7. Anime starts Oct. 5 (Fri), assuming 13 episodes the last episode will be aired Dec. 28 (Fri). By past trends manga releases on the 26th of the month so literally we'll have the manga end before the anime end (which is nice considering how a lot of manga adapted anime either left open end or alt. ending kinda). Although wishful, if Nakatani would do a volume 8 with just lovey dovey that would be nice too :)

No one can really know if the manga will have 7 volumes or more. There's no way Seven Seas would know either. Are you the same person who said the manga would have 5 volumes because Seven Seas listed 5 volumes a longgg time ago?
The preview of volume 7 (included in volume 6) says volume 7 will be out in Spring 2019 and that's it. That probably means this volume will have 6 chapters as the previous ones did , or at the very least 5. Volume 6 ended with chapter 34 btw.
So yeah, here's hoping the manga will have 8 volumes! Let's pray lol I want to see them happy too.

Eh, I addressed this "mistake" at the time (page 129 of this thread) And I disagree with that interpretation of the original Japanese.

And in general, I get pretty antsy when people start talking about "translation mistakes". It usually ends up feeling pretty Dunning-Kruger to me when people start going "Well, they literally said -this-, so the person that translated it must have screwed up."

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate 4s' work and I think they're good, and I don't wanna seem arrogant but I still remain my opinion that it was a translation mistake. And if you think about it, it makes more sense that Yuu wanted to back down but still decided to do it in the end rather than just thinking "This can't go on" in that specific context. I actually asked a Japanese friend and he agreed with me. I don't think there's too much to interpret there either, Yuu's words don't really have multiple or very different meanings for one to get confused about what they really meant in context.

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Thing is, Touko doesn't know what she wants to do.

This part is especially hard on Touko because she’s previously been someone who knows exactly what she wants to do—imitate her dead sister, be in love with Yuu, have Yuu be her campaign manager, put on the play, etc. Her main moment of crisis wasn’t about choosing among several different concrete possibilities, but when she couldn’t see what came next—what would happen after the play was performed.

Touko kept control all those years by keeping herself locked down emotionally and stubbornly sticking to the single principle of being “perfect” on the (supposed) model of her sister. Now she’s broken out her self-imposed constraints, and she’s both more free and more vulnerable than ever.

Yuu, in the meantime, is depressed and hurt. She was afraid of rejection, but she got past her fear by reassuring herself that she wouldn't be rejected, not by accepting the consequences that would come if she was.

Did Yuu really take Touko’s acceptance for granted, though? I thought it was more like she just couldn’t keep going on the way she was. (That “I may be about to do something stupid, but I just don’t have any other choice” feeling was painfully familiar to me.)

I don't mean she took it for granted, I mean she quelled her fears by assuring herself they were unfounded.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/bloom_into_you_ch34#15

"It'll be okay. I'll still be by her side..."

She never let herself actually think through "What do I do if she rejects me outright?" I mean, she couldn't. It'd be paralyzing if she did. All she could do was steel herself, hope for the best, and act.

The translation made a mistake here. In the raw after Touko says she wants things to remain as always , Yuu was about to back down and not confess , trying to convince herself that keeping the status quo is fine and that Touko will keep changing so that someday... someday what? That's when Yuu jumps towards Touko and decides to confess. She wanted to run away, but in the end she decides not to, so I think she did not think about rejection since everything was too sudden, and when she was "rejected" it just hit her too hard.

Sorry Nettaigyo, A Room For Two is the ultimate girlship. The level of super friendship is too strong in this one and can't be defeated.

That’s a very reasonable position. I would say only this in response:

When a shark and a turtle understand the nature of the feelings the main characters have for each other far more clearly than the protagonists do themselves, that’s a pretty high “friendship” standard to try to achieve.

Pretty darned high indeed.

But here everyone can see the super friendship including their parents who approve it.

I'm just gonna say that if you put a gun to my head and demanded that I choose which story, between this and Nettaigyo, was more likely to go No Homo at the end, I know which one I'd choose. It wouldn't be Nettaigyo.

Edit: In my defense, I posted this before I saw the spoilers.

Nettaigyo's still hella gay tho

Jokes aside, A Room For Two is tagged yuri in the official website where it's published while Nettaigyo isn't. Both are pretty gay tho, and A Room For Two gets even gayer in later chapters, for now let's just enjoy the super friendship :^)

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Sorry Nettaigyo, A Room For Two is the ultimate girlship. The level of super friendship is too strong in this one and can't be defeated.

The original girlship is back! Yay
But no kidding, I think the subtext tag should disappear. The website where it's published advertises as yuri, so it's official.
Also thanks Yuri Ichigo

Oh my goodness me. This is one of the most wonderful things I have ever read. And now I have to wait for god-knows-how-long for maybw the final chapter...? My heart can't handle it. This manga has made me feel so happy.

Um, I think the manga is coming to its end. The next chapter is in October, I feel probably like last 3 chapters to end? Now just resolution on their relationship.
Doubt the author will go on showing their lovey dovey life afterwards unfortunately. :(

The next chapter is out this month. All we know is that there will be at least one more volume, and each volume has 5/6 chapters. Volume 7 starts with chapter 35.

I wanted to say "finally this trash is over" but it will have a spin-off focused on Yuzu and Mei again. Meh.

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