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Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 01 Apr 11:38
joined Jun 25, 2017

Ok, Goggled it's that time again already:
https://mega.nz/#!HlsWlSLa!4hs_nm15L3k7X_qHoLqUbjH1uv0yBy0m30rNtPgv5Us
Wow! What an impressive and emotional confession of love there, Ayako!.. No it's not.

Question, will you post raws Everytime? :)

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 01 Apr 11:38
joined Jun 25, 2017

Ok, Goggled it's that time again already:
https://mega.nz/#!HlsWlSLa!4hs_nm15L3k7X_qHoLqUbjH1uv0yBy0m30rNtPgv5Us
Wow! What an impressive and emotional confession of love there, Ayako!.. No it's not.

Thank you!!!

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 01 Apr 11:37
joined Jun 25, 2017

I read the first chapter a few years ago when it came out and ran away in disgust. Now I'm here, after binging the entire series, re-reading it twice, reading all 100 pages of comments (yes, even those saying Ayako had drugged Asuka and molested her), supporting the author on Pixiv and buying all the issues on Amazon. God damn… Taiyaki is a goddess. I had never seen such a beautifully built trainwreck of a relationship.

Okay, let's start with the obvious. Ayako needs therapy ASAP. It's obvious that she can function as a productive member of the working class, but in the affective realm she has the maturity of a child. I believe the reason is that Ayako may be autistic and had a horrible childhood. Maybe I'm projecting here, I'm autistic myself and also a survivor of child abuse from 6 to 13 years of age. The first few pages of Chapter 15 describe my own experience and inability to understand my own emotions so well that it's uncanny.

However, I don't think the author will take it that way. Therapy tends to be an unsatisfying way to resolve an inner conflict in fiction.

So, here are my thoughts:

About the strange predisposition Atsushi talked about in Chapter 16, I think it might be 'indifference' on a massive scale. Ayako was known to be uninterested in other people and to be unable to smile. Try talking to someone that's physically there, but doesn't smile, just stares at you or gazes somewhere off. It's unnerving. I can see how it would be difficult for a person who's basically expressionless to live day to day. By pairing with someone as confident as Atsushi, it could somewhat alleviate some of the issues. The reason why Ayako married Atsushi was to have a family, which is something she desperately wanted. (This is purely speculation, of course.)

Through Akira's kiss, Ayako will realize she feels absolutely nothing of the rush of feelings and arousal she feels with Asuka, which will confirm that she is in fact head over heels for her daughter. It seems strange that someone her age would've missed the signs being thrown at her in every direction, but I think this is the first time Ayako has been in love. Some readers have theorized she's a closeted lesbian. I don't think that's the case. I think she's demisexual, someone who only feels sexual attraction after forming a deep emotional connection. And let's remember that Ayako doesn't seem to have much of a history forming deep emotional connections… The only confirmed case is, in fact, her daughter.

I hope they don't go all the way immediately after this revelation. I want them to be together, but for the right reasons. I suspect Ayako holds an immense amount of self-loathing and guilt. Notice that she blamed herself for Asuka falling in love with her, and before running off to Akira's she remembered scenes of the blissful times she spent with Asuka only to then think "In the end, for someone like me, wanting to be a family with someone was just a long dream." The poor woman thinks that she doesn't deserve a family… That's heartbreaking.

This is everything. And the reason. The manga is so so good. Took the words out of my emotions.

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 01 Apr 11:33
joined Jun 25, 2017

Wait a minute. I just understood.
If Taiyaki is doing this on purpose, she's an amazing storyteller.

Akira is kissing Ayako the same way Miyuki kissed Asuka on the couch when she was younger. (The art is even the same) That was the moment Asuka realized her true feelings for Ayako. If Ayako realizes her feelings with this kiss between Akira and her, it would be portrayed in the same way. THIS IS ART YA'LL.

How is this so romantic wtf.

\(°o°)/

That would be a great connection there. But would that be too simple for Taiyaki? It'll be too straight forward and seems like a potential ending to the manga, which i hope would never end.
I think Ayako would just brush Akira's kiss off as a joke. (if she did kiss? i know it looks like they totally connected there but who knows) Ayako always brushes Akira's feelings to the side as she never notices, so we might go back to square one...

I can see that happening, yes. But, I also think it goes beyond Ayako realizing her true feelings. I'm sure there are more things to develop. Like relationship status, will Asukas tell the when world? Lol and the most intense one.... Will Ayako wait till Asukas is 18? Or will they not be able to stop their growing feelings of Romance? I feel like Ayako is a realist. And might just realize "okay yeah, I like Asuka." But more emotions and expressioms will bloom from this. Their is so much I want to see after her realization ya know? Like Asukas never opened up about what she did what miyuki, and I know Ayako is insecure about it. As a development and hopefully official couple, they can talk about this? Maybe Asuka can express how it wasn't Ayako she was with, so she didn't go further. Things like that!!! Ugh. (Sorry for the long documentary) lol

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 01 Apr 11:28
joined Jun 25, 2017

Mochima posted:

I read the first chapter a few years ago when it came out and ran away in disgust. Now I'm here, after binging the entire series [...]

I'm making a habit of asking this question: what changed your mind about reading it again?

Very curious as well.

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 01 Apr 11:27
joined Jun 25, 2017

New chapter up!!! And she said she'd try to update twice a month. Ah!!!! (My heart) can't wait for translations. Thank you all for your hard work.

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 30 Mar 23:31
joined Jun 25, 2017

Nobody talked about this (admittedly small) detail: when Asuka is recalling her makeout session with Ayako, she thinks it was awesome, fantastic, amazeballs, so incredibly hot she felt like she was going to melt in Ayako's arms... and then she remembers Miyuki and thinks that, next to Ayako's kisses, Miyuki's kisses were just meh. And a little Miyuki face appears in a corner of the panel and says: "How rude!" I found it hilarious. ^_^

I loved this too.

Maybe Ayko will get a little Akira when she realizes Asukas kisses are better.

joined Jun 25, 2017

This would be a great ongoing manga.

Michykat
joined Jun 25, 2017

Just say it!!! You want her to stay. (╥﹏╥)

Michykat
joined Jun 25, 2017

These 2 are so adorable. Can we get more development please? A kiss?

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 24 Mar 13:27
joined Jun 25, 2017

Wait a minute. I just understood.
If Taiyaki is doing this on purpose, she's an amazing storyteller.

Akira is kissing Ayako the same way Miyuki kissed Asuka on the couch when she was younger. (The art is even the same) That was the moment Asuka realized her true feelings for Ayako. If Ayako realizes her feelings with this kiss between Akira and her, it would be portrayed in the same way. THIS IS ART YA'LL.

How is this so romantic wtf.

\(°o°)/

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 23 Mar 21:16
joined Jun 25, 2017

Nobody talked about this (admittedly small) detail: when Asuka is recalling her makeout session with Ayako, she thinks it was awesome, fantastic, amazeballs, so incredibly hot she felt like she was going to melt in Ayako's arms... and then she remembers Miyuki and thinks that, next to Ayako's kisses, Miyuki's kisses were just meh. And a little Miyuki face appears in a corner of the panel and says: "How rude!" I found it hilarious. ^_^

Author said she might add those more often. She had fun with it!

I wish Ayako knew how Asuka felt. That Ayako really is the only one for her. And I also hope Ayako realizes that kissing Asuka makes her feel things that she doesn't feel with Akira.

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 23 Mar 21:14
joined Jun 25, 2017

On a lighter note Asuka's "mom-sense" should be going crazy at this point.

Asuka at her desk now:

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Asuka after running to Akira's place:

(╯°Д°)╯︵ /(.□ . )

Ayako:

(─.─||)

Lol

On the real, I think the last panel... Ayako will realize what Asuka realised in this same chapter. That kissing someone you love is completely different then just doing "things" with someone.

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 23 Mar 13:56
joined Jun 25, 2017

i can't believe asuka chose to do homework instead of her mom

It's because homework can't run away from her

She trying to graduate and be someone for Ayako. She gonna take care of her momma, like all daughters do.

(~ ̄³ ̄)~

I can see it now. An older Asuka coming home from work, kissing Ayako. Being domestic and open behind their closed doors. (Their safe haven)

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 22 Mar 22:12
joined Jun 25, 2017

This manga is the best thing that's ongoing right now, change my mind

I completely agree.

Some of you might hate what I'm about to say but... This relationship seems a lot healthier and better developed than Citrus.

(◕દ◕)

im not huge fan of citrus. art is great but story telling is lacking for me

I loved it, the first couple of volumes. And then it just felt like it was going in circles. Lack of development for me. Which drives me nuts knowing that 1x1/2 still hasn't been published. It's so beautifully developed.

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 22 Mar 20:54
joined Jun 25, 2017

On a lighter note Asuka's "mom-sense" should be going crazy at this point.

Asuka at her desk now:

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 22 Mar 20:52
joined Jun 25, 2017

This manga is the best thing that's ongoing right now, change my mind

I completely agree.

Some of you might hate what I'm about to say but... This relationship seems a lot healthier and better developed than Citrus.

(◕દ◕)

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 22 Mar 20:49
joined Jun 25, 2017

Also, am I the only one who has faith in Akira? And think she is kissing Ayako, so Ayako can realize she does like Asuka and it is romance. Like she's trying to prove a point? You see how Taiyaki never draws a blushing Ayako when Akira makes her move. Yet Ayako always always blushes with Asuka. Hopefully by the next chapter, Ayako knows for certain, that she too likes Asuka. Omg, can y'all imagine how cute it's going to be when they both acknowledge it?

( ◜‿◝ )♡

last edited at Mar 22, 2020 8:50PM

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 22 Mar 20:46
joined Jun 25, 2017

Super quick translations!!! Thank you, thank you. ✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 21 Mar 16:16
joined Jun 25, 2017

And would you believe it, we have new (half) chapter already! I guess being late with releases has its own advantages.
https://mega.nz/#!m0dRlYLC!wXP9IJh_bAAx0eRLNAWz6A1QJrIQdvmMi3KnuPZJCj0

TL v1: https://pastebin.com/fQptXVka
Akira no/yes

No!!!

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 21 Mar 16:15
joined Jun 25, 2017

Soooo, chapter 16.2 raws are out and.... Like wth is up with that last panel, AKIRA! I need to know what the hell is going on. For the love of ASUKA/AYAKO!

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 19 Mar 15:34
joined Jun 25, 2017

Also, I forget Akira is a scientist like Ayako. So I can see why she doesn't see the mother/daughter romance as a problem. They can't procreate.

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 19 Mar 15:33
joined Jun 25, 2017

Who, whoa, whoa, I'm not sure if I'm misinterpreting but just in case: Ayako has NOT been grooming Asuka in the slightest. She didn't even know about Asuka's feelings! I don't think most of us would be cheering them on if it was written that way. And Although, yes! Asuka is what like 17 now? (Time has passed) the writer is writing it very delicately I feel, and is being kind of realistic with the way Ayako freaks out, and the way that (unfortunately teenagers that age do go through sexual experiences) it's very common, especially in the US and tv. Lol I think in this mangas case, the incest is the bigger "issue" but I do believe it is consensual and that when Asuka turns 18, it will still be consensual.

Asuka is madly in love with Ayako. She's going through what all of us have gone through or will go through, sex included. (love) all teenagers and humans go through it. (only thing is, it's her mother) and Ayako, from the looks of it, is on the same boat. She's never gone through those types of teenage feelings, and just romance in general. (Only it's her daughter)

Their relationship really doesn't seem to be a "groomed" pervy Loli type of relationship. Or else I don't think we'd have so many chapters of development. Taiyaki is actually taking her time to let the viewers see both characters sides, and that it's not about sex. It's about those two having authentic feelings of love for each other.

It's a manga! These 2 are soul mates, the way I see it.

I agree they are like soul mates. I love Taiyaki's ability to tell this story and give it proper attention instead of a rushed finish. Also I agree that Ayako did not groom her.

Also I have to disagree with Lilliwyt that "the line between grooming and raising your childs as a parent is very thin." If someone is grooming someone, they are aware of it, its not something that one stumbles into while parenting.

I love this ^ song.

(^3^♪

Michykat
Age 15 discussion 19 Mar 15:27
joined Jun 25, 2017

Thank you so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so much!!!! After over 2 years of waiting. ( ꈨຶ ˙̫̮ ꈨຶ ) You are amazing.

Michykat
1 x ½ discussion 19 Mar 12:03
joined Jun 25, 2017

Why on Earth are there still people ranting about this ?!
Come on ! This is tiring me !
We're all disgusting scums here, if you don't like that, FUCKING DON'T READ IT
Incest for the win.

You have to understand the difference between a manga and real life. I can read incest stories and find it good but it's a different matter if someone said they go out with a family member in real life. I think i couldn't accept it.
By the way, the line between grooming and raising your childs as a parent is very thin.

It's not surprising you couldn't accept it, you don't accept almost anything of what you read.

Who, whoa, whoa, I'm not sure if I'm misinterpreting but just in case: Ayako has NOT been grooming Asuka in the slightest. She didn't even know about Asuka's feelings! I don't think most of us would be cheering them on if it was written that way. And Although, yes! Asuka is what like 17 now? (Time has passed) the writer is writing it very delicately I feel, and is being kind of realistic with the way Ayako freaks out, and the way that (unfortunately teenagers that age do go through sexual experiences) it's very common, especially in the US and tv. Lol I think in this mangas case, the incest is the bigger "issue" but I do believe it is consensual and that when Asuka turns 18, it will still be consensual.

Asuka is madly in love with Ayako. She's going through what all of us have gone through or will go through, sex included. (love) all teenagers and humans go through it. (only thing is, it's her mother) and Ayako, from the looks of it, is on the same boat. She's never gone through those types of teenage feelings, and just romance in general. (Only it's her daughter)

Their relationship really doesn't seem to be a "groomed" pervy Loli type of relationship. Or else I don't think we'd have so many chapters of development. Taiyaki is actually taking her time to let the viewers see both characters sides, and that it's not about sex. It's about those two having authentic feelings of love for each other.

It's a manga! These 2 are soul mates, the way I see it.