that's why, I still half assedly think Izz is a straight girl but mostly a guy.

No, I'm a woman, bi. I've been with a guy only once in my life, never even went to bed with him. He beat the crap out of me when I told him to chose between me and the drugs I've found out he started using. Years later I met a great woman who won my heart and we're happy together. I wouldn't change it, I love her. But I still see cheating in levels and I don't think I'll ever stop. And seriously, this is the last time I'm touching this topic so please, stop.

I'm one of those who see the ugliest cheating once the penetration happens.

no izz, you are straight. That's why.

I gotta say something here, wether there is penetration or not it's cheating, staright or not.

If i see my boyfriend kissing someone half naked, it's totally cheating!

So if my GF kisses our friend to welcome or goodbye (and I do the same, it's a cultural thing where I live) on the beach when we all are wearing suits (more than half naked), it's cheating? LOL, not for me. As I said, I see this in levels. Sumin did cheat but it was around the middle level on my scale. And that's it, won't continue this topic.

Not straight. If I'd go with your logic, I'd need to think every single kiss is a cheating, which is not ;)

No lesbian would EVER question if that was a cheating depending on whether it was a "penetration" or not !!

it is okay.. but, no you are not a lesbian, not a bi even. And from there I could understand why would question it.

OMG, I said she cheated on her but I also said I see cheating in levels and that there's one level I'd never ever forgive (the rest is fixable if the other one works hard to earn the trust back), lol. Every single one of us see it differently, just like every single one of us enjoy different things. I know girls who prefer straps over fingers but they would never go to bed with a guy, are they not lesbians either? I don't think it's healthy to continue this conversation...

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I'm one of those who see the ugliest cheating once the penetration happens.

no izz, you are straight. That's why.

Not straight. If I'd go with your logic, I'd need to think every single kiss is a cheating, which is not ;)

Sumin.... what can I say more, karma is a bitch. Feel sorry because even after all this, many still blame her only and praise highly on sungji action. Really? Innocent or not, if you kill people, you has killed people. Her disappearing act has no excuse, she could end it better. I doubt I want to see sumin and sungji together after this.... to many reasons against it.

SuminxSungji ending is the worst ending to me ever now, for thousand of reasons no related to Seju at all.

WDTFS - a story about healing by breaking one character over and over again, lol. Yup, I've never thought I'll say it but I can't see team blonde as a healthy couple anymore. Not after what Sungji did.

Izz

Oh come on :D Sumin didn't agree to it, right? She let Seju do things to her (although I don't believe any penetration happened) and that's all, she never even touched her back, lol. And please, it's not Pulse. They don't rape people here, lol.

I won't argue with the fact that Sumin indeed said: "I couldn't refuse" hahah

but the "no penetration" part .. are you straight ?? or a guy ?
this is SEX .. whether was vaginal or calitoral .. this is lesbian sex, sorry if it wasn't ball deep enough for your taste XD

I'm one of those who see the ugliest cheating once the penetration happens. Until there's no such thing, it's still fixable but only if the other one didn't want to do it because let's be honest, if a girl forces her lips on you and you push her away then it's not cheating. But when a girl forces her lips on you, rips you shirt and you do nothing but also not react by touching her because you're in a state "should I do it and give her the closure or not?" then it is cheating but in a weird way. I can't really explain it, as I said, it's complicated from my POV :)

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Izz

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Well, she kinda did and kinda didn't. So even though I say she did, I can't say she did it wilingly. It's complicated.

my bad, I must've missed the panel where Seju raped Sumin with her F cup boob ! XD

Oh come on :D Sumin didn't agree to it, right? She let Seju do things to her (although I don't believe any penetration happened) and that's all, she never even touched her back, lol. And please, it's not Pulse. They don't rape people here, lol.

Izz

Karma was a bitch when she cheated on Sungji. Sungji made this whole mess by agreeing for Seju to live in the apt IMO.

I never thought this day would ever come.. when you admit that Sumin indeed CHEATED on Sungji XD

:D
Well, she kinda did and kinda didn't. So even though I say she did, I can't say she did it wilingly. It's complicated.

My theory is right afterall, after depression comes acceptance. Seju finally able to move on, she is a strong girl to be admired.

I'm glad she finally did although it's too bad it happened so late in the story.

Sumin.... what can I say more, karma is a bitch. Feel sorry because even after all this, many still blame her only and praise highly on sungji action. Really? Innocent or not, if you kill people, you has killed people. Her disappearing act has no excuse, she could end it better.

Karma was a bitch when she cheated on Sungji. Sungji made this whole mess by agreeing for Seju to live in the apt IMO. If she was so insecure she should've either say no or move in with them and keep an eye on both (heck, I would've done it even if I had no insecurities and trusted my beloved one because I'd never trust the other one! Especially when the other one is Seju who manipulated both of them in the past). She did not. Sumin tried hard, worked hard, was honest. All for nothing.

Sungji... finally she got what she want in early chapters, sumin only thinking of her.

She got that way back already. She was just too blind to see it because she had no time to be with Sumin. Spending time with the new team leader was more important for her, I guess.

I pray so hard that we wont see a scene of Seju somewhere and the end, lollll. I WANT TO SEE HER HAPPY WITH SOMEONE, lolllll.

I'll always ship her with Nami. Can't help it!

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I guess in Sungji leaving Sumin without a word is also an opportunity for Sumin to figure out things on her own instead of focusing on a single reason on why it happened. It was not only because Sumin took Sungji for granted .. maybeeee that's why Sungji just left Sumin for a while to think it through. Whether they will talk again, of course they will do. I even suspect seeing either Dawoon or Sumin at the wedding. But mostly Dawoon.

Somehow I can't see Sumin attending to a wedding. She was supposed to be Sungji's +1, no reason for her to go there alone.

But for the first time in this manhwa, I see Seju better than Sungji. For the first time, Seju is really something more than just behind Sungji in everything.

High five here.

OMGGGGG, this is the first time we agree on sth, OMGGGGGGGG

Not the first, but I've rarely quoted you ;)

In fact, I feel Sumin is now acting like when Seju was left alone. Which makes me wonder if we are going to go in circles... and if she loves Sungji why the hell hasn't she gone and look for her to tell her she is free from Seju. Nothing makes sense to me..

Didn't she already tell Sungji that Seju isn't living with her anymore? She doesn't need to tell her "hey, ya know, Seju left so I'm completely free to be with you!". That would be stupid.

She could easily go chase after her and tell her the ties have been broken. And I think we are far past "that would be stupid" - because arguably more than half of the story has revolved about stupid immature decisions.

But that tie is completely broken only now, after Seju had left who knows where.
And Sumin is way too short to find Sungji in such a huge crowd, lol. She couldn't see above all those heads.

But for the first time in this manhwa, I see Seju better than Sungji. For the first time, Seju is really something more than just behind Sungji in everything.

High five here.

sigh I feel exactly like this too. I am very well aware of the Sumin x Sungji ending. But seeing the way Seju let Sumin go...is just too emotional. I wish I could feel the same for Sungji but unfortunately I'm not moved by their(temporary) break up. They always gave me that married couple chemistry, but the type of married that actually are still in love with each other, after all these years.
Sungji and Sumin feels more like an infatuation, although I know it is not.

All I can say is, Seju best girl.

In agreement. I think you explained that properly. I was never moved by their interactions. Though the ending seems clear, I could never see the connection other than infatuation.

That's what made no sense to me, because the story revolved so deeply about the unfinished business of Seju and Sumin, it always, drove me to think Sungji was like the commercial break while those two fates kept colliding.

In fact, I feel Sumin is now acting like when Seju was left alone. Which makes me wonder if we are going to go in circles... and if she loves Sungji why the hell hasn't she gone and look for her to tell her she is free from Seju. Nothing makes sense to me..

Didn't she already tell Sungji that Seju isn't living with her anymore? She doesn't need to tell her "hey, ya know, Seju left so I'm completely free to be with you!". That would be stupid.

but you know.. at the grocery store the two girls thought that Sumin is just a student who can't even afford ramen XDDD

She surely looks like one. Short stuff and all, haha!

I have an idea it might be Seju calling Sungji at the very end. And I'm not sure if it's a wedding. Why crowded corridors, reception and lifts? It looks more like some kind of company, just not the one she used to work in. Or a hotel? If it's a hotel, it could be a wedding. But why a hotel, lol. Don't they have some kind of shrines to do it?

You sure love to compare to the past to prove that Sumin is in her most despaired state, lollll.

Come on, of course, its different, last time its Sumin's fault, she has cheated with Seju, she had to live with that. This time, she is trying her best to redeem herself, and this time she doesnt know what she did wrong. Come on, it has to be worse than the last time.

But its not about who she loves more, its just about timing with cause and effects, lolll

Agree.

Agree, she had to see Sumin completely broken over Sungji, even more than after Sungji broke up with her the first time to let go and vanish from her life for good. But it's a very cruel way to "win". No one should suffer this much

Seju didnt leave because seeing Sumin broken because of Sungji, lollll, she just leaves cause she didnt want to hurt Sumin anymore, cause its useless to stay, lollll. This, she did better than Sungji about thousands times, lolll.

Which is what I said. Seju wouldn't let go of her if she didn't see how much she's suffering. She didn't want to add more suffering. Seeing Sumin this broken made her let go for Sumin's sake.

And talking about cruelty? So to you, right now, only Sumin is being treated cruel, lolll? Cause she is the one getting to be drawn in tears and being miserable?

Sungji left in a not so admiring way but who says she is happy?

Sungji doesn't look miserable at all. She acted like a brat, I won't change my mind. And if it was her plan then it's even worse.

And lets not talk about Seju, who also cried her heart out, who leaves the only person she loves, who now also has no one else.

I don't hate Seju, I never did. Although I can't see her love as pure. She needed a healing arc, if she got one and moved on without Sumin, then came back to her life and started everything from the beginning - by being co-workers/friends, then I'd love her to end up with Sumin! But she played with her to the very end. I'm giving her applause for finally letting go and trying to move on though.

Talk about cruelty? No one is not being left cruel at the moment, not just your Sumin.

I've never said Sumin wasn't cruel, lol. But in this situation she's the one most broken. Even Seju had found strength to move on. I'm mainly Sumin fan so of course I'll feel for her more than any other girl but I'm not discrediting her flaws. Never did and never will. No human is perfect ;)

Let's not hate on Sungji shall we? It just shows how human she is/can be, I guess? Tho I'm planning on using my remaining coins to other manwhas. Is that weird? Lol

I'm still hoping for Team Gaji to make it SejuxSumin end. They might still have some twist/s left? Looool I'm desperate.XD

I can't see how running away without any explanation is humane :P

If team blonde ending really happens it's going to be very bittersweet. I didn't like how Sungji treated Sumin lately and I was hoping everything will be fine the moment Seju moves out. Well... it's not. And I don't like that. But Sumin sees Sungji as her last chance so if Sungji shows up on her doorstep I can be sure Sumin will take her just like that. Or Sumin will crawl to her, begging to come back.

Nothing will fix what she did though ;) I though she was more mature and smart than that.

That's just how it is to make them the ending couple, lol. Without this, Seju wouldnt let go, lollll but well, I hate this ending so much that I dont know how to make myself read the remaining two chaps, lolll.

For God's sake, I've prepared this ending since forever but I cant believe when it happens, I despise it so much like this

Agree, she had to see Sumin completely broken over Sungji, even more than after Sungji broke up with her the first time to let go and vanish from her life for good. But it's a very cruel way to "win". No one should suffer this much. I have an idea it might be Seju calling Sungji at the very end. And I'm not sure if it's a wedding. Why crowded corridors, reception and lifts? It looks more like some kind of company, just not the one she used to work in. Or a hotel? If it's a hotel, it could be a wedding. But why a hotel, lol. Don't they have some kind of shrines to do it?

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But congrats to teamblonde and to me, 90% Sumin and Sungji will be together at the end xDDDDDDD.

Even though right now I hate that ending with every fiber of my being, lolllll.

I think you're not the only one, lol, although I'm not sure if I'd like team pink ending either. It would've been rushed up way too much to my liking, I guess. Seju needed her own healing arc.
If Sumin will go to Sungji, I'll flip the table. It's Sungji who should come to her senses now and go to Sumin.

Dont worry, she will meet Dawoon at the wedding, then Dawoon knocks some sense into her, and she'll run to Sumin. Happy ending for teamblonde, clap handssssss, lolllll

Nothing will fix what she did though ;) I though she was more mature and smart than that.

But congrats to teamblonde and to me, 90% Sumin and Sungji will be together at the end xDDDDDDD.

Even though right now I hate that ending with every fiber of my being, lolllll.

I think you're not the only one, lol, although I'm not sure if I'd like team pink ending either. It would've been rushed up way too much to my liking, I guess. Seju needed her own healing arc.
If Sumin will go to Sungji, I'll flip the table. It's Sungji who should come to her senses now and go to Sumin.

So... It looks like Sungji did left, huh? If so, I'll call her a coward and a kid once again. She hurt the person she swore to protect. Meh.

I think leaving Sumin was the right thing for her to do, but the way she did it was the coward's way.

I disagree. Everything Sumin showed towards Sungji lately was love. Sungji saw it, knew it.

There is no question about sumin's love for sungji. But Sumin deeply cares for Seju, and Sungji sees it.

And she's jealous, I get that and I understand that. But she knew Seju was out of Sumin's life and she still chose to play a coward instead of sit and talk. I don't like that at all.

No guys, that's Sungji's mom. xD

Then maybe Seju and Sungji are sisters, lolll.

Partial reincarnation.

Kagome & Kikyo Korean style.

No guys, that's Sungji's mom. xD

LOL, could be :P

So... It looks like Sungji did left, huh? If so, I'll call her a coward and a kid once again. She hurt the person she swore to protect. Meh.

I think leaving Sumin was the right thing for her to do, but the way she did it was the coward's way.

I disagree. Everything Sumin showed towards Sungji lately was love. Sungji saw it, knew it. She promised to never let Sumin get hurt and end up being the one who broke her. Because she seems to be completely broken now. She wasn't like this even after Seju cheated on her. She reached her limit. This is beyond cruel.