How is she being rude or that distant?

Blondie literally comments that these are out of character.

Yamanaka is distant, but she's distant for a reason: She's a lesbian that has been burned in the past. And is STILL being burned by her now-to-be-married buddy. That's why I am somewhat distant to female coworkers.

So you also cheated on your girlfriends? She wasn't burned, she was the one burning people.

This is as pretty 'meh' as it gets.

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But, in my opinion, Yuzumori-san is not "bad writing" (this is subjective).

I don't know how subjective it actually us. Characters are just acting out without reason. Ririha is just spilling everything with literally no trigger for it. And now Yuzumori's forgiveness of her is completely unsubstantial since we have not seen them being friends at any point. There is no show here, only tell. The characters are telling a story within the story that we have no connection to as an audience and we are expected to accept it all. If anything, it's boring and pointless. We don't learn anything new and there is no character progression in the end.

And I have to desagree with the quote: "the translations of yuri series have gotten thinner" because pretty much every day has new releases here in Dynasty. And there is even some chapters that didn't came out here yet but is already out in others sites (Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon)

Most are fan doujins of other series or one shots. There are less actual series than there used to be. And even Kobayashi-san hasn't released anything in english since early October.

Tsubomi better have a good backstory or a change of heart. Otherwise, she's just a crab in my book.

Shes jealous that her girlfriend loved her own sister more than her, it's why they broke up in the first place. And from the looks of it incest is just as taboo there as it is in real life, so her reaction makes perfect sense.

Incest being taboo in the Mochiverse isn't really a thing, unless you meant in Japan? At the very least, incest doesn't seem to be THAT much of a taboo. If you don't recall, at one point the sisters were interviewed and broadcast on national television and the interviewer appeared to be really into the idea of the sisters going out. Which makes this chapter super strange, seeing as this most likely takes place AFTER the Yuri Family one-shot. Why is Tsubomi suddenly against "sis-cons" when her entire family is made up of them, and the one-shot showed that she's also one? Doesn't really make much sense.

Pretty sure the interview chapter is the non-canon one since they probably would have brought it up that they told everyone about their relationship. But here they act like it's still a close secret they haven't told many people about.

Tsubomi better have a good backstory or a change of heart. Otherwise, she's just a crab in my book.

Shes jealous that her girlfriend loved her own sister more than her, it's why they broke up in the first place. And from the looks of it incest is just as taboo there as it is in real life, so her reaction makes perfect sense.

I would give it up if there was anything else coming out, but from the looks of it the translations of yuri series have gotten thinner as of recent so I have to make due with what I can get and what I'm getting is garbage that I feel needs to be called out.

It's bad writing, plain and simple. There is no subtleness between chapters, characters are making rash decisions based on the smallest suggestions. There is no build up to what is happening, everything is done purely to pad out the series with pointless drama. Even if Mimika and Yuzumori reconcile and get back together what do they get out of it? How does this breakup over a jealous girl's lies progress their relationship? It doesn't, if they make up they are back to square one. It will be several chapters of pointless garbage that does nothing to flesh out the characters.

Sorry that I'm making my disappointment with this series public.

I'm just annoyed by the fact that Arisa started remembering the past and completely forgot to tell Mari about it.

That's what I said. Period. Meaning that there's no statement from Mimika that's anyway close to her telling Yuzumori "Ririha told me you're friends". What you quote, "this is the first time that I met your friends" and "you should've let me know that you have such good friends" are the words of a girl (Mimika) who speaks without directly mentioning that she and Ririha ever discussed about anything involving friendship. Instead, those are the words of a girl (always Mimika) who's been listening to a broken-hearted somebody telling her their own version of a story, assuming that said version is true and watching three girl "friends" playing together. Mimika never once doubts Ririha's words, and the fact that Yuzumori gets along with Isuzu and Ririha is as good as any evidence that what Ririha told her before Yuzumori's arrival is true. They are friends. That's what Mimika accepts as true, that's her new insight on Yuzumori's relationship with the two guests.

What are you even going on about? I'm talking about what Yuzumori knows, not Mimika. Ririha told Mimika that her and Yuzumori were friends, and she believed her. Not once did I have issues with that. I have an issue with Yuzumori not contesting it when Mimika talks to her. Instead of "lets not talk about school" she should have said "they are not my friends."

Mimika says that Yuzumori has friends, yes, but she doesn't say that Ririha told her that. What I said is that there's no trace of Ririha's name, no hint to them ever talking, no mentioning to the fact that it was Ririha who told Mimika that Yuzumori has friends in chapter 23. Yuzumori never gets to hear Ririha's name out of Mimika's lips, she doesn't know that Mimika and Ririha ever "talked". That's what I said.

THEY WERE LITERALLY JUST IN THE ROOM! Mimika literally says that they are Yuzumori's friends and that they waited in her room for Yuzumori to show up to hang out. Why the hell would Mimika invite two random girls to hang out if she didn't already think they were her friends? Does Yuzumori think that they didn't talk without her present? That these two just barged in and started hanging out right after one of them threatened her?

I never said that Mimika doesn't tell Yuzumori that she and Ririha aren't friends - that's rather explicit in what you quoted and it'd be hard for anybody to miss it - but Mimika never mentions her little chat with Ririha which is the main reason behind her statement "such great friends", aka "friends that care about you and want to be with you while I'm taking you away from your childhood".

Now you are just not making any sense. Why the hell would Mimika think they were friends unless she was told? Does Yuzumori think that Mimika assumes that all little girls know each other?

And now with the translation out this has hit an all new low in bad writing. The villain is just going to reveal everything without any build up what so ever? God damn, this series has become such a disappointment. The fact that Yuzumori didn't realize it shows that she really is too ignorant, immature and even down right stupid to consent to any kind of relationship with Mimika. What was even the point of all this? Literally to pad out the series, just give it a mercy killing already.

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What are you talking about?

This feels like we're sitting at the same table after previously agreeing that we would be playing a card game, but we both show up with different decks (ie, Uno and French playing cards). You play your game with the deck you have and your own logic, I do the same with mine, but it's fruitless to keep it going because there's no match so peace and, have a nice day!

It's more like we are arguing over what is happening in a manga but for some reason you are making up stuff out of thin air. You make statements that are completely contradictory to what actually happened. You say that Yuzumori doesn't know that Ririha told Mimika that they are friends but Mimika clearly says just that. That's why I asked "what are you talking about?" because what you said made no sense with the quotes that I cited.

The point is that, we've just assumed that this was going to be an ane-loli story and that was it, that the groundbreaking theme would be having a little girl ending up with the older girl "without major drama", or in a very soft dramatic way, with little troubles every now and then and a general light-hearted feeling.

What are you talking about? We always knew there was going to be drama with Mamika accepting herself as a lolicon. What we didn't know is that the author would run out of ideas quickly and start some love triangle garbage to pad out the series.

We readers associate that to Mimika. Does Yuzumori know that Mimika is her "dearest" thing? She never thought explicitly of Mimika in that way, she doesn't know what to think of her feelings yet, just that they scare her.

What are you talking about? Yuzumori is the one that confessed and cried over the possibility that Mimika didn't like her. Yuzumori is also disappointed that Mimika won't do anything physical until she is older. She knows exactly what her feelings are.

Where Mimika tells Yuzumori that Ririha told her they're good friends?

"Still, this is the first time I have met any of your friends." and "You should have really let me know... that you had such great friends." Hmm, why would Mimika think that Ririha and Yuzumori were such great friends if Yuzumori didn't tell her herself? Man, if only there had literally just been two other characters hanging out right just before...

If Mimika had just mentioned Ririha's name when she told her that she should spend more time with her friends, then Yuzumori would have seen through Ririha's lies. But Mimika doesn't, so Yuzumori doesn't know.

She directly references Ririha, your insight makes no sense.

She doesn't know + bad heartbreaking + feeling humiliated = she leaves.

She does know, she doesn't say anything other that "no more talking about school" before they break up, and is only feeling humiliated because the author doesn't know how to write for shit.

It's true that sometimes authors are forced to change the course of a story for different reasons, but I wouldn't accuse Ejima Eri of not knowing what she's doing with her characters.

I would and that's exactly what I'm doing. It's actually common for creators to ruin their characters, especially when they try to pad out a series longer than it should be in order to sell more volumes/books.

The only thing that I feel like criticizing is that Mimika could've come up with something like, "since I want you to have the childhood any child should have, what about you spend some time with your friends and then some with me?" As a matter of fact, Mimika thinks that things could've gone differently the following chapter, "but it's too late". It looks like a safe escape from any accusation readers could've moved against the author about the break-up. But I don't mind really.

Must not have been a good one since I'm doing just that. And the "it's too late now" is just another shitty writing cop out that is proven wrong in the very next chapter.

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@UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins No, it's set several years later. Not immediately after.

The theory that the crystal shortens your life is just that, a theory. They don't have any evidence that it shortens your life, only that it's painful to use. But wasn't painful enough to discourage a romantic magical broom ride.

You have no idea that Sophie was actually even killed. She just falls after failing to match Izetta's spirit bomb. Not once do we get a confirmation of her death, especially whether or not it was the crystal's life draining that caused it. You also forget that Sophie was literally just a clone that was set to have a short life span anyways. The original Sophie used the stone much longer than the clone and Izetta and lived for decades until she was betrayed and executed.

So in short, yall don't know what actually happened.

@cameron I think you skipped over the last few minutes of the show...

There's a good number on Lezhin if you are willing to pay. Going down my library list of ongoing comics:

Moonlight Garden is alright, so far a lot of banging but little romance. It's cute but the creeping shadow of suffering is looming every new chapter. Recommended.

The Love Doctor started off great but is currently pretty boring with recent chapters. I'm actually rooting for main couple to fail at this point just so that something happens. Also, ghosting your girlfriend is unacceptable. Erea better not get away with that bullshit. Recommended but recent chapters are not helping.

White Angels Have No Wings is pretty brutal with the bullying and molestation. Only 2 or 3 characters are actually good people, everyone else are just assholes you want to see suffer and fail. The main albino girl is just the worst and I'm hoping she doesnt get a happy ending. Not recommended unless you like bullying and manipulative bitches.

The Third Party has been good so far, reads like a soap opera. Pretty damn romantic but everyone has their secrets that could ruin the whole illusion. Recommended.

Blooming Sequence is pretty much fluffy romance between two college girls in a film club. Some gayngst but nothing too bad so far, exgirlfriend about to start something. Recommended for what had been released.

On a Leash is just weird. It's about humans that can turn into humanoid animals in a war between mammals and bird people. The yuri is between a soldier who can't calm the fuck down and a doctor with a death wish. I dropped it once it showed its true colors as a typical rape fantasy you see in shitty hentai. Not recommended.

Elixir is a spin off of Daily Witch. A normal human has some serious angst with her witch girlfriend. A lot sexier and more dramatic than the original series. Pretty good unique drama with a lot of mystery about the witches' pasts. Recommended.

Serenade is about the romance between a girl in music college, her professor and a psycho yandere. Lots of drama that I have been enjoying, only a couple of characters I want to punch in the mouth. Recommended.

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Oh man, the irony. They literally explain that Yokama is just trying to be nice, the problem is she is too nice and trying to push too hard on the wrong person. It's like trying to make a homeless man a spokesman for poverty prevention when all he wants is to be left alone. It's not a bad thing to want to help minorities and the unfortunate, you just need to make sure that the person on top of the parade float wants to be there.

Okay, I see you but, as Komugi pointed out, it's early to be calling this a "shitty writing".

No, it's not. Mamika's and Yuzumori actions have shown that it has jump the shark on shitty writing. The moment the author decided to go the cliche route of adding in Ririha to start trouble instead of further exploring the original themes is the moment is became a shit show.

Being this an on-going story, stating that Yuzumori is acting OOC when we don't know to what degree and in what direction her character will evolve yet, not until we reach the very end of the manga at least, is a discourse that can only be applied to fanfictions, not to original works.

A complete load of bull, we know this character. We have been inside her head plenty of times. This makes no sense how she completely forgot about Ririha directly threatening her in the bathroom.

That being said, look at the bigger picture, or the one we know so far. Fourteen chapters in we've assumed this is the story of a teenager dealing with her feelings for her "light of my life, fire of my loins": we get to know Mimika, we get to see what her thoughts are, we catch glimpses of her life with Yuzumori. Then, when Mimika leaves for her school trip, we are left with Yuzumori. The change of pov itself should make us suspicious that this isn't just the story of a girl in love with a younger girl.

No, apparently it's a story of a school bully and a moronic high school girl that can't think for herself.

We follow Yuzumori for a chapter and, in the same manner we've learned that Mimika has Shiori in her life, we see that somebody else is crossing theirs with Yuzumori's. Ririha is introduced just like that, as somebody who passes by and holds a "grudge" toward our "main character".
Next chapter, we're back on the couple going through their daily life, but we're aware now that somebody else might have their own story to tell. At this point, take a look at our protagonists: they've reached a dead end. They've grown closer (true), Mimika's kinda tamed her urges, Yuzumori looks for physical contact, but none of them is doing anything to start another chapter in their life (Yuzumori doesn't seem to be aware of the nature of her feelings, she just wants to be with Mimika while Mimika's fine with how things are). Basically, what started as a story where us readers' many goal was to see if the two of them would end up together and how they would cope with their age difference has evolved into something different.

That's the problem. The author couldn't come up with something for the two to do with each other to move on. This is why Kase-san is so good, the characters progress together and alone. They don't need love triangles or bullies or both to progress their relationship. Instead Yuzumori-san took the easy and cliche route of adding in a third person to stir the pot. In its wake the characters all the sudden act like morons who can't string two thoughts together. They become ignorant of the events that lead up to the present. And why? Because melodrama.

Once Mimika's feelings are accepted by Yuzumori and that "first step" of their journey is behind them, they just do stuff. There's no real progression. Not until somebody set things in motion again. Ririha does just that (if we focus on Yuzumori and Mimika's relationship). Yet, characters don't only exist in function of main characters: they have their own story to tell too, a purpose. If Ririha was just a flat character, then that would be "bad writing", and it would damage the story more than any trope. Sure, what drives Ririha isn't clear NOW, but it's useless to say that it will, as we will get all the answers we want on Yuzumori's past (for example).

The only thing that drives Ririha is the melodrama engine. The author couldn't come up with anything to fit the themes that we have seen so far and instead chooses to go cliche, add in a villain that is both smart enough to trick our protagonists with ease but too stupid enough to realize why she is doing it. The latest raws are just icing on the cake of how ridiculous this is getting. Ririha was a mistake that can't be taken back.

I like having the chance - despite it comes with big frustration - of guessing what's going on with everyone and how the characters' different storylines are connected, but I'd never call it "bad writing" just because something looks "off" in an on-going story.

All you can expect is nonsense, it's hard to predict what is going to happen when the author just throws in random shit to spice things up. We saw from the three previews the story that the author wanted to tell and after it was told she wanted to continue it but didn't know how. This is the result of an author not knowing when to stop.

Instead, she concluded "reasonably" (aka since-I-went-through-this-in-my-past) that it was to be expected. I understand that some things may have no sense whatsoever if I think of what I know, but what do the characters know? And in what measure their feelings influence their reason? In what measure my feelings influence mine? (...that's deep!)

As deep as a puddle. We know that Yuzumori knows that Ririha threatened to take everything she holds dear away from her. She also knows that her girlfriend spent half a day with the person who threatened her. She knows that Ririha told Mamika that her and Yuzumori were such great friends. She knows these lies and yet all she has to say is "let's not talk about it". Like, really? These are not fan theories, these are things we know that are facts and they don't add up. Instead the characters yell nonsense and cry, because that's the point of melodrama. It forgoes logic and reasoning for pure emotional trauma no matter how stupid and random the twists and turns are.

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Emotions tend to fuck with your rationality. Like how you should normally know that you shouldn't respond to trolls but d'ooooh you're just so gosh darn mad at what they said that you just have to respond. And it's not until you've finally come down from that emotional high that you realise what an idiot you've been.
Yuzumori's a relatively smart kid, but she's so emotionally attached to Mimika that the destruction of that attachment, even when it's so obvious from an outside perspective, is devastating for her. And Mimika's a dumb lolicon who's paranoid over so many things, mainly crossing a legal boundary, that she's easily manipulated by her emotions.

That's just such a cop out. If you can explain character stupidity with "emotions" then Prometheus would be lauded as a masterpiece. Smart characters acting moronic for convenient drama creation is just cringe inducing. Especially here, these are not split decisions in the heat of the moment. These are thought out conclusions where the characters just completely blanked on recent past events that would have shown them how stupid they are acting.

Mamika had this dumb idea in her head for half a day and she never thought about asking Yuzumori why she didn't hang out with her friends. Worse is that she thinks that just because they broke up that Yuzumori would just go back to hanging out with her friends. Also, why should Yuzumori hang out with her friends over her girlfriend if she doesnt want to? And worse, she lies about why she is breaking up, because telling the truth would have sounded dumb.

Yuzumori accepted the break up initially, which can be understandable, but here we have her crying in the rain because she totally forgot about the girl who threatened her was hanging out with her exgirlfriend right before. Not once did she think about how Ririha might have manipulated Mamika. She has completely forgotten that Ririha was there.

Now with the new raws we have Ririha planning out this whole thing for apparently no reason. She secretly likes Yuzumori but completely forgot about the whole being nice to her to swoop in to take Mamikas place. Turns out she is just being a huge bitch to the girl she like's because reasons. She even takes an extra step by telling Yuzu she is going to ruin her life because that's totally what a mature child would do. This takes place over weeks, she didn't just come up with it on the fly.

If you are going to whisk away shitty writing with something as vague as "selfishness" then that's your own prerogative.

Hi, can you please expound on why do you consider this a "shitty writing"? I'm genuinely curious.

Characters acting out of character, like a smart and mature child all the sudden acting moronic and ignorant. Or invoking tropes in the worst of ways, such as Mamika breaking up over Yuzumori not having friends without actually talking to her about the issue. Or characters getting weirdly specific amnesia and forgetting past events, such as Yuzumori not remembering Ririha confronting her in the bathroom and directly threatening her. Weird that she didn't remember that after Mamika broke up with her after talking with Ririha. You'd think she would be a little curious as to what Ririha told her.

But no, let's just forget all that because typical melodrama beats out an interesting almost-realistic look at a lolicon and her gay relationship.

If you are going to whisk away shitty writing with something as vague as "selfishness" then that's your own prerogative. If the character is acting insane pointing out that insane people exist doesn't make it any better.

And no, its clear that she doesnt understand what she wants. She is not trying to make friends with Yuzumori, she is bullying her and openly admitted to wanting to make her miserable. If your theory is true then that just makes the terrible writing stand out even more. When is Ririha suppose to make Yuzumori hers? Why did she not try this after Yuzumori lost all her friends? Why did Ririha not try to get close to her after she broke up with Mamika? If she is trying to make Yuzumori lonely in order to swoop on then why has she not tried to swoop in yet? It seems that after she fucks up Yuzumoris life she just acts like nothing happened. She is not trying to get close to Yuzumori herself and the bathroom scene proves that. If she wanted to trick Yuzumori onto becoming her one and only friend then why openly threaten her to her face instead of ruining her life secretly? Does she expect Yuzumori to like her after admitting to ruinning her life? If so then this is worst than I originally thought.

Being mature and wise beyond her years indeed, but like i said before, the selfishness can make you do stupid shits even if you're adult.

Except you didn't. You blamed her behavior entirely on the fact that she is a child. If an adult acted like this then getting a retraining order would be child's play.

You want something -> You think you're clever and comes up with a brilliant plan to get that -> Plan didn't work out as you expected -> You realize (or not) that you were wrong

Several issues. First, Ririha doesn't seem to understand what she wants. She's smart enough to easily trick a young adult but too stupid enough to figure out her own basic emotions. Second, her plan worked exactly as she intended. She took away everything from Yuzumori that she held dear. There is nothing here showing that she has realized that what she did was wrong. She is a fucking psycho attacking random people over shit that she caused.

Were those primary kids dating highschool girls or already have modeling careers? No?

I guess that's just the convenience of having child characters. You can have them smart enough to recognize a romantic relationship, devise a plan to invoke the idiots sacrifice to get them to break up while hoping they dont talk about it, and excuse it because she is mature and wise beyond her years. But then come back and have her regress to preschool mentality to explain that she is essentially just pulling the girl she like's pig tails, because "children, duh" and some people will just let it go. It's cognitive dissonance, is Ririha more mature then a child or isnt she? Pick one, trying to have it both ways just makes it look like bad writing.

Kids not acting rationally is nothing extraordinary ... Ririha is just really bad dealing with her feelings for Yuzumori

Being the only one allowed to make her cry is not just acting irrationally, its fucking psychotic.

Thankfully, the subtext is really strong by atleast 4 couples(ojou team, S&M reversal team, announcers and team 'married'). 2 couples still have not had an episode, so we'll see.

No idea why they are doing both het and yuri subtext pairings, makes no sense.

Because there's a little thing called Class-S.

Nothing really points towards that for the other pairings.

Ojou team got "youre my first... friend", S&M got the "this will cause trouble for you with boyfriends later" treatment, the 'married' team has been hinted to be completely fake, and announcers got "neither of us had friends so that's why we are friends".

Yeah, no, this manga has no room for logic anymore. Mangaka is just throwing shit on the page and seeing what sticks.

I really need to change my profile pic.

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Who is Two Car even aimed at?

Couldn't tell you. Sports anime fans won't stay due to the complete lack of any actual racing. There are no rivalries between any of the teams, its a long running theme that teammates rather fight with each other than the other teams. They also keep saying that team mates have each other's lifes in their hands, that death is possible if they don't work together, but from what we have seen crashes don't even leave a bruise.

SoL fans will have a hard time caring about any of the characters. Each pair gets an episode or two to work out their problems and then fall to the background for the next pair. And the constant pushing of the idea that team mates should be a copy of each other is just annoying.

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Btw, is two car worth the watch yuri-wise? I found the main duo...frustrating after 2 episodes. Is like it's some kind of het bait? Idk.

It's just yuri-bait. Every declaration of love not meant for a guy is followed up by "gross" or "dont be creepy". Even the duo that seems to be engaged are almost definitely just engaged to faceless men back home.

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though i still wish this was Yuri

If it's any consolation the editor of the magazine this runs in called it yuri.

Tatsuya Kusunoki – Dengeki Daioh Editor: It’s a cooking manga, but you could also see it as a yuri work as well. It’s freedom to see it as either.

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