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White Rose
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We kissed to swap bodies for 10+ years, went on dates and now live together, but it's all NO HOMO.

Why would you say that? It's established they are a couple.

In a previous scene (chapter 40, page 4) Chinatsu specifies that she and Miharu are not "roommates" but a couple of lovers living together.

And, in this chapter, where we find out how they relationship started, we see Chinatsu explain to Miharu (after the two spend their first day swapped) that "for now" they're more than friends but not yet lovers... and she then tells Miharu to "do her best" at quickly seducing her into becoming Miharu's lover. (Seeing them ten years later, it's clear Miharu did a good job.)

Looking at them, we can see the future of Akiho/Fuyumi and Haruko/Natsuko. Yup. <3

White Rose
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(...) I don't want to read a scene where she yells words of hate at Nanaki: "You ruined my life! It's all your fault! Get away from me!" and more similar stuff... no, no, please, no...

Though probably inevitable I also hope that this won't be the case....

Welp, color me surprised.

It did happen, against our hopes... I guess it was indeed inevitable...

But Nanaki took it in stride with impressive coolness and composure. She didn't react with pathos, sobbing and running away, as most manga girls tend to react when in this kind of situation. She calmly explained the facts to Kurokawa and made her realize she was blaming the wrong person. And finished with what amounts to a declaration of love: "It doesn't matter how others look at us, or how different we are. I don't care about any of that. I want to be with you!" Wow!

I wouldn't have thought Nanaki had it in her, honestly. It's amazing how she has changed since chapter 1! Being dumped by that piece of shit of a guy really did her a world of good.

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Maybe her husband is actually a woman. Yes, it’s gonna be like that! it’s gonna.....I need to stop lying to myself. ToT

We can make this work! Mangaka-sensei has never seen Nanako's husband. Nanako just knows she has an NTR fetish, so she invented him.

Bonus: Nanako is the writer for a manga about a perverted, semi-NEET lesbian mangaka.

Ah, nice one about a fake wife catering to the NTR fetish of her love interest. Works for me!

But making them both mangaka who write about each other is a bit...

Sad. Either route this manga goes is bad. Unrequited lesbian love vs. Wife who cheats. Meh.

Then the Wife Who Cheats agrees to elope with you, and, when she asks where the two of you should go, your reply is: "To the Moon."

I wonder how many of y'all can identify that reference. ^.^

She wasn't cheating though. Everyone who got together with her was made aware she had a husband and male and female lovers The whole point of the series was the MC weighing the pros and cons of her being one of them.

Also did they really elope? I thought she stayed married to the husband.

Okay I give up. Some kind soul tell me what title you're talking about?

White Rose
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This is just a story but it's better to be aware that something similar isn't the least bit nice in reality.

I honestly cannot tell if you're trying to insult us by speaking to us as if we were mentally handicapped children, or if you are a horribly messed-up person who can't tell fiction from reality and thinks everyone else is like them.

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Okay, I'm at a loss. What the hell is going on?

The girls at the classroom were reacting just as if Touka was dead, but the MC recognized her fingers so there's no doubt it's her and not a lookalike or twin or whatever. And why be so mean to the girl she was so friendly before?

Don't tell me it's the old "I realized you have a crush on me so I must push you away for your own good even though I return your feelings" trope...

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There was an explanation in a recent manga by Morishima Akiko. I think it went like this:

3D is your real life. If you're in love with someone irl, that's 3D.

2D is animation of any kind. Hand drawn, vector-based, computer animation, Motion Graphics, Claymation, whatever, you name it -- as long as it's animated art, it all goes in the same basket. So if you're in love with, say, Frozen's Elsa, that's 2D.

2.5D is a term coined to describe live action visual media. Normal movies and tv shows and the like. The stories are fiction, and the characters are not "real" people... but they are played by real people. So if you're in love with Shin Yun-bok from Painter of the Wind (not with actress Moon Geun-young who plays Shin Yun-bok, but with the character Shin Yun-bok: you feel that you and her belong together, and as for that hussy Jeong Hyang she can go kiss a duck) that's a 2.5D love.

Aah so that's how it is... thx for the explanation! :-D

White Rose
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Looking around, Japanese people seem to generally get pretty annoyed at foreigners spreading the whole 13 thing around.

The age of consent in Japan is 13 years old. That's it, period, full stop. Enough with this discussion already! The age of consent is the minimum age at which an individual is considered legally old enough to consent to participation in sexual activity, and it's 13. Individuals aged 12 or younger in Japan are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, individuals aged 13 or older are able to consent according to national law.

The source of confusion is that many prefectures also have local "obscenity" or "corruption of minors" statutes which raise the de-facto age of consent to 16-18. For example, the effective age of consent in Tokyo by local statute is 18. These statutes are not laws, they are just local ordinances and don't carry the force of law. And, of course, national agencies of law enforcement do not concern themselves with prefectural ordinances. What does this mean? It means that, as it happens, all those tens of thousands of manga stories where you see high school girls and middle school girls have sex are, in fact, a faithful depiction of realistic behaviors. Because most Japanese youths don't give a damn about those dumb ordinances.

Anyone wants to read more about this, just go here for complete and detailed info:

https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/japan

And I really hope people will now stop trying to debate these plain facts. The whole Japanese laws thing has run its course already. Let it rest, geez.

last edited at Nov 22, 2018 1:35PM

White Rose
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Oh, that's a very good point there. The need of approval is most likely the key to understanding Nanaki. She seeked approval before as a gyaru princess, and she became the top gyaru of the school to bask in everyone's adulation. Being dumped by her bf, and the cruel words at the breakup ("You're pretty, but also boring and stupid, I don't give a damn about you!"), must have hurt her a lot. Her worldview was certainly shaken. So it's very likely that she's now seeking approval from Kurokawa, doing everything to gain approval from her, as she feels she is the one person who is sincere and can be trusted!

The bomb planted in last chapter's cliffhanger is that Kurokawa is about to lose all her old otaku friends because of her new relationship with Nanaki. :-( They will probably ostracize her as a riajuu from now on... Please, please, whatever supernatural power is listening to my prayer, please give Kurokawa the strength to take the blow with coolness and equanimity!!! I don't want to read a scene where she yells words of hate at Nanaki: "You ruined my life! It's all your fault! Get away from me!" and more similar stuff... no, no, please, no...