where was Seju's hand in this picture ?
http://imgur.com/a/lnLBh

1- in Sumin's pants
2- in a slow cooker
3- in a food blender ??

3??....

Foxy Lady yes, it was implied, Seju has a company SO probably she could afford a food blender too to mix work and pleasure !

She had both of her hands ON Sumin's pants the moment Sumin was pushing her off so to me it looks like she was opening her zipper, nothing else.

Do I need to quote TG's Q and A? The one you quoted here yesterday? :P

so, you saw Sumin's zipper open, and you saw her topless, you saw her kissing and panting.. that's not sex!
Sungji had no right to get angry.. what's wrong with Sungji !

you saw Seju just laying in bed next to the bartender, but that's absolutly sex, she even aborted the baby !

this is my last comment on the matter.. you lost €5,
copy/ paste the QnA, TG never told you Seju's mistake clearly.. had they ? :)

last edited at Jun 13, 2017 11:32PM

ladies and gentle ladies !!

question of the day for €5,

where was Seju's hand in this picture ?
http://imgur.com/a/lnLBh

1- in Sumin's pants
2- in a slow cooker
3- in a food blender ??
€5 are on the line !

where is the snap pic I asked for? did I miss seeing it in the manhwa somewhere ?

last edited at Jun 13, 2017 11:25PM

^
well, you realise that I printed screen the PURE CLEAR picture of Sumin being fingered by Seju!
oh no, that's not sex !! where is the picture of the bartender actually doing the nasty on Seju ??!!!
if what Seju was doing to Sumin is not sex, then basically all gold star lesbians are virgins !
oh wait, did someone call me out somewhere ?? XDDD.. not yet ? where is the fun then

before you answer me, please reread the chapter, print screen the panal for me showing me the act of the bartender doing it on Seju, this is a NSFW material, TG aren't shy to show it. otherwise, it will be pointless to move further with this idea!

last edited at Jun 13, 2017 11:16PM

@Nora
I am guilty sometimes of writing comments not because it is in my heart but to reach out to all possible perspectives of an issue to address the ambiguity.

well, they need a third eye to get them sometimes XD.. but they are well supported, even if they are hard to get at the first read

last edited at Jun 13, 2017 10:42PM

Wow. I have no words to give except stay away from those with an actual depressive disorder, you'll do more harm than good.

so please please stop it.. if you want us to stop discussing it, do please drop it and refrain from personalising it so much.. non of us is Sumin or whatever !
okay Sumin is depressed and no one else is in the whole manhwa.. what else !

last edited at Jun 13, 2017 10:16PM

^
Foxy lady allow me to say this to yoonie0104 ,

she meant by Hypothermia and it's remedy + the mauntain rescuers being sued for sexual assaults that <- no sex happened !

Es0teric I want to clarify this.. whether Sumin is mature or not is completely unrelated to Seju's maturity and vice versa. And when we discussed Sumin, Seju was out of the discussion scope at that moment.

Foxy lady

can I ask you what do you think about Saehyun statement at the hospital to Sumin: the compensation wasn't the money, but that you were also given the chance to take revenge on her.

in my humble understanding, I thought that giving Sumin a scar, led Seju to feel guilty and live in order to take responsibility and at the same time keep Sumin sane, because if Seju was to lose reasons to live, Sumin would forever feel guilty and ruined -and lose her opportunity to take revenge-.
another purpose, is to tie them together.

but now, Seju didn't cheat, most probably Saehyun would have known about it, why would he use the word "revenge" then revenge for what ?

waiting for Sia's katana comment XD

Foxy Lady,

What is this, Nora? Can't catch your drift...hehe

she answered this question right after this one:

A) I'm so sorry for them, sorry for Sumin's parents death accident, Seju already felt guilty about the accident and Sumin blaming Seju for her parents death accident, and her suffering from her shitty family.
정말 안타깝네요. 수민이는 수민이대로 안타깝고 세주는 성장과정도 그렇고 안그래도 비행기 사고 죄책감이 클텐데 수민이가 그걸로 원망까지.. 에고 안타깝넹
Gyeomji) You are right, they were both immature, both at fault. 맞아요. 안타까운 일들이 연속으로.. 둘다 철이 없었고 잘못이 있어요.
Gyeomji) Seju is such an beauty, extremely rich, smart, has a killer body, she's got it all, she's too prefect. So I thought, her making mistake once, giving her one flaw was not a bad idea, hohoho. 세주 미인에다 엄청난 부자에 머리도 좋고 몸매도 좋잖아요. 다 갖췄잖아요, 너무 완벽하잖아요. 한번쯤 실수해야 인간미 있죠. 호호

Edit:

What is this, Nora? Can't catch your drift...hehe

oh really!! do you know what your comments do to me? XDDD

last edited at Jun 13, 2017 7:34PM

I was refering to Seju alone flopping on the couch.. hehe... The abstractness of Team Gaji's arts..haha.. This is trivial anyway..hehe

yes she was on her back in that one too, looking at Sumin.. what a shot !!

In my case, it doesn't need romantic relationships but those that needs healing. I guess, you didn't include: Saehyun-Seju-Sumin and Sumin-Seju-"other men"(Sumin's insecurity which heightened during college years)

correct, I didn't include these.

cool idea, thanks Thiaguinho-sama
mind posting the exact link?

last edited at Jun 13, 2017 6:23PM

well, the love triangle in this Manhwa is just a part of it, but not all!
the Baeks alone deserve a Manhwa of their own. It would be like the show "Dynasty- the Chaebol's version".. specially that Saehyun and Ahn Chahee and more about the president's first wife.
as for short stories I would like to know the following:
1- how did Nammi and Sumin became friends?, Nammi and her adventures and POV.
2- Camile "Dawoon Ex", I'm intrigued to know more about her
3- How did the Sung got to know the Baeks.. is it work or something else.
4- what does the Assassin know.

I saw all 3 movies from that vengeance trilogy. They are my favorite :3

oh.. it's a trilogy (googling things now)

She was just simulating :3

ah, try telling this to my girlfriend XDD

Izz
hehehe.. I know XD

Most likely it will be left unknown unless the authors want a tragic ending (smth like in the movie Oldboy)

woah, you saw that movie! it messed with my brain for a very long while.. I don't know if I recovered from it yet XDD

How sweet. Then I am looking forward to find more secrets that you harbor

shhh

last edited at Jun 13, 2017 4:12PM

^That's reaching... But if we reach like this then Sumin didn't cheat on Sungji - there was no sex. And Sumin was unresponsive to Seju's actions. There was also alcohol, Sumin could've drink... ;)

come again ?!

http://imgur.com/a/oz8EF
XDDD

I wonder if she ever tried to talk to the bartender about that night. He could make a lot of things clear...

you may never know when we may see him again ;D

And alcohol poisoning symptoms can last for a day or two.

yes, that's why even after Sumin & the bartender left, you could see Seju alone in her bed covering herself with the bed cover at the very end of ch25.

anyways, this thing will lead me to be called out in some other forum by an Anonymous shrug shrug

Deep inside you are enjoying it

yes, I do. you know my secret now XD

last edited at Jun 13, 2017 4:03PM

If she really got alcohol poisoning she definitely wasn't in a state to decide anything

besides that, there is another possibility, there was no sex. Hypothermia
I quote Foxy lady "Do you know that most mountain rescuers are accused of sexual assault when rescuing victims of hypothermia?"

I just can't imagine her saying smth like: please no doctors, let this bartender take care of me with his body

Sumin assumes that she had a bodyguard that night.

anyways, this thing will lead me to be called out in some other forum by an Anonymous shrug shrug

last edited at Jun 13, 2017 3:45PM

True Evil

Wouldn't it be wiser to call a doctor in this situation?

it was the case in ch53.

If the guards were there why they let a complete stranger take care of Seju?
I just know about alcohol poisoning from my own experience. Even small amout of it makes me tatolly sick

open ch53, Seju doesn't let her own personal driver to take her home.. I don't know why. And I know that she doesn't like to use bodyguards.. Sumin assumed again, and I know better about her assumptions XD

anyways, this explanation is strong enough that I refused to bet against earlier, and I'm a suicidal gambler XD

Why wouldn't she be able to hug Sungji? You don't need a weepy story to hug someone

You need a weepy story to hug me, you know? :'D

my neighbor's cat died ! :(
hug??

Since Foxy lady mentioned it, I thought this post maybe helpful:

Alcohol poisoning

• Alcohol poisoning symptoms: [..]
  Low body temperature (hypothermia)

• things to do if someone is showing signs of alcohol poisoning: [..]
  Lie them on their side in the recovery position if they’ve passed out, and check they’re breathing properly.
  Keep them warm.

drinkAware

Hypothermia

• People at increased risk for hypothermia include:
  People in cold weather whose judgment is impaired by alcohol or drugs

• Hypothermia symptoms for adults include:
  Confusion
  Drowsiness or exhaustion
  Loss of coordination, fumbling hands, stumbling steps

Hypothermia is a potentially life-threatening condition that needs emergency medical attention.

• If medical care isn't immediately available: Remove any wet clothes, hats, gloves, shoes, and socks. Protect the person against wind, drafts, and further heat loss with warm, dry clothes and blankets. Move gently to a warm, dry shelter as soon as possible. Begin rewarming the person with extra clothing. Use warm blankets. Other helpful items for warming are: an electric blanket to the torso area and hot packs and heating pad on the torso, armpits, neck, and groin; however, these can cause burns to the skin. Use your own body heat if nothing else is available.

WebMD

and about sia ue, she killed one of my arguments before with cold blood! (it still hurts till now XD). she even used my own statement to kill it!!

Only one? I thought I had killed many. :'D

ONLY ONE "as far as I can remember", with one of your katana comments XD

^
Saehyun: you’re the same as always.
Saehyun: Driving with only one hand is dangerous
Seju: I don’t care.
Saehyun: it’s also unwise to speak as if you don’t care about your life.
Seju: I don’t care how you think of me.
Saehyun: that’s a shame. I was hoping you’d make an effort since we’re on the same boat.
Seju:..