I really have no idea where this is going.

This. And I don't know if this is a good thing or not.

I think it's the story's strength. We're presented with a situation that feels real, and it hasn't developed into any of the more obvious cliches (yet). The object of her love is happily married, her best friend refuses to show any signs of being secretly in love with her, and her older brother isn't a two-faced asshole.

She's in an unfortunate but believable position, and it's unclear how it will all end up. Maybe she'll just give up on her one-sided love some day, and the story will end.

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I'm still curious as hell as to who Nadeshiko's in love with. I know it's Yuru Yuri, so I know it'll most likely never be mentioned... but c'mon, throw a chick a bone here.

I'm still betting on the stupid girl she always makes fun of. Seems to be the kind of pairing Namori likes. Plus, right after they visit her at her job and mock her by writing "we're going to the movies after this" on the check, Nadeshiko sets up a movie date "I know you love movies". Could be we're just being teased, but...

I am really not sure who is speaking on page 30

I think you might have the wrong page. No one's speaking on page 30. Assuming you mean page 29, the round bubbles are Ruriko while the wavy bubbles are Akane.

Even harder sci-fi stories where time travel is the main point generally don't agree on how it works. In a story like this, the author just threw in time travel for a fun setting and will certainly reveal random bullshit rules as necessary to advance the plot, which is as good a method as any. Anyone who tells you they know how time travel works is a liar, so might as well just make up the rules to suit the story.

And what a lovely story it is!

osananajimi is suffering

This was pretty good, an emotional story and a rewarding ending.
I wonder if the rest of the book is related to this first chapter?

The stories are unrelated. However, the volume-end extra is a very short continuation of I Don't Care About the Music.

From Ruriko's behavior during their relationship, and especially from her lyrics afterwards, it's pretty clear she was completely incapable of moving on. That bit about madder red really struck me, but the whole song was about the break-up. In general I really liked the way the songs paralleled the story. The "milky-mint sky" song was about living a life disconnected and unattached, and wishing for love, even if it's unfulfilled, while the "salmon-pink scar" song was about the pain and regret of loss.

I don't think Akane's cruelty was justified. She seemed to be acting out of her own fear as much as concern for Ruriko and her music. It all worked out happily in that they got back together. But also they aren't shown really addressing the original problem in their relationship, so it's interesting to imagine how they'd deal with it going forward.

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I'm so happy Tokunou developed Hajime and Yun more since although they're a part of the main 4 group even like Ahagon had more screentime and development than them.
God I'm also really jealous of Hajime too, the last time I cut my hair short I came out looking like an emo scene boy with a mullet

Agreed. Cutting your hair is incredibly difficult, impressed with Hajime.

This is an older one so perhaps you've read it, but one of the my favorites is Octave. It's rather unique and quite far from the genre stereotype. There's kissing, and sex, as well as quite a bit of angst and just general ups and downs in the plot. The only downside is that the art is pretty bad. It gets the job done, but it's not very interesting.

Her entire personality is extremely scummy and underhanded. Just look at how she treats Shoko who is clearly not actually okay with what she's doing but gives in due to her manipulations and fear that resistance would lose her the president. If it's not rape it's still coming really close to bordering on it.

Agreed that she's scum, but there's a difference between rape and being a terrible person, and it doesn't do anybody any good to mix those two up. Sex under false pretenses is not rape, nor is playing upon a person's fear of abandonment to demand sex/favors, at least not in any legal system I know of. Her being scum is immaterial to the determination of rape.

During the whole process depicted here, it was unclear to us (as readers) whether Chiho consented, but her behavior seemed to indicate that she was willing, and her thoughts and actions afterwards confirmed that.

I have a feeling the MC is gonna get the best of the president somehow. It just feels like that kind of story.

Maybe Hotaru wants to distance herself because she knows she's a terrible person and wouldn't want to inflict herself upon the person she loves.

From what we've seen, and since there's more, I'm predicting that Saeki likes Nao and was taking advantage of her.

But this just leaves an unpleasant feeling after reading. The lie Nao told feels strange and out-of-place. Perhaps with more backstory about her relationship with Tsubaki it will make more sense.

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Haven't people who read the raws said that it's not a harem manga? Unless I'm just misremembering it seems like those worries aren't too big a deal.

It would be nice if you used spoilers for the sake of those of us following along here.

Torn between desire for pure love romance and yuri harem.

I hope she brings snacks for that homeless dude.

I think what really bothered me the first time I read this, was the fact that Sato didn't seem to care about Sono at all, and Hiroko was probably trying harder than Sato in every aspect of their respective relationships. One-sided love always kind of bugs me for that reason.

I kinda like that. I think it is realistic in a way: most of the time, we simply don't choose who we love. It's not about who tries harder, or who deserves anything. Sono just loved Sato, and that's all there was to it.

Though I will say that it's pretty clear Sato did care about Sono the whole time. She invites Sono to stay as long as she wants, no questions asked. Not many people would do that for their friends, even for their best friends. Rather than comparing Sato to Hiroko, just look at Sato's actions on their own. It's obvious that she cared.

Okay, gotcha: bottom line, if your friends say you're terrible, then you deserve only unhappiness.

No, I did read that. So yeah, she says that she sleeps with people with no strings attached - ie. neither of them has any expectations of fidelity towards the other. You argue that this is a sign of degeneracy etc. But you also say that those who cheat are degenerates. Since you brought it up, Sono is pretty unfaithful, and thus by your argument, also deserving of eternal damnation.

Or does her infidelity "not count" because she was just cheating on a degenerate?

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I'm a little confused. The only character here who arguably cheats on anyone is Sono. So she's the one who deserves eternal suffering and hellfire? You have to be a little more clear in your sermons, or I won't know who is damned.

I don't really think it's about deserving or not deserving, in this story, at least. Sono loved Sato, not Hiroko, and that's really all there is to it. Yeah you feel bad for Hiroko, what happened to her fucking sucks. It doesn't really have anything to do with her promiscuity either - she loved somebody who didn't love her back, that can happen to anyone.

I wouldn't really call her a "tool" either, since she's very much a main character, getting a perhaps more development than Sato - her experience is integral to this story. Just by shifting your view, this is the story of Hiroko's first and doomed love, falling apart despite her desperate attempts to hold it together. It's still a damn good story.

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Hoping this is really a Time Traveller manga because it would awesome like The Girl Who Leapt Through Time - (Then it will be "The Girl Who Leapt Back 7 years Through Time" Haha) but what if it turned out to be like this manga? Sorry just having some trust issues.

You haven't even mentioned the best time-travel manga of them all.

My problem is that bottom panel on this page. Look how tall she is! She must be a full 15cm taller as an adult than she is at age 16! Maybe it's just Pure embellishing things in her mind.

Anyways, this looks fantastic.

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I'm no expert, but I think this genre appeals to people (presumably this one is targeted at young women) because viewers don't see this as sexual assault. There's a ton of erotica where the main character is pushed down and "forced" to have sex, but is perfectly happy doing so, because the aggressor is someone she's attracted to and the sex is enjoyable.

It's pretty common "rape fantasy" fare, and it occurs in yuri often enough as well (to start with, every single work by Mira). It's hard to judge whether it crosses the line just by a synopsis.

This story seems to be headed in the direction of a surprise romantic drama, and I'm all for that.