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Gross.

Why do you people come to this forum, just to create an account to post a lame meme image just to hate on a manga. Can you fuck off and not use this site? This is your only ever post. Great fucking job.

Maybe they read the site all the time, and just don't post. This one offended them so much they had to speak up. Or they just thought the meme was funny, cuse it's a little funny.

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Um... wow... (pull collar of shirt nervously) That Itou Hachi sure likes 'em young huh? (nervous laugh).

Edit: I'm all for freedom of speech and all, but I'm not sure I can blame Germany for banning this.
I don't mind age gap yuri romance manga, where the younger one is under age. However I still felt super uncomfortable with a college woman making out with a 9yr old. I guess I have to draw the line at middle schoolers. To put it crudely When it comes to yuri manga If there is grass on the field, play ball.

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However it could definitely be unwelcome to someone who is not looking for it.

That's... why it's tagged Angst?

Agreed. But in my defence, not all Angst tag story have sad endings. I was convinced right up to the last page, of this story, that the wedding talk would turn out to be just a unfounded rumor, and the pair would end up together. I think the let down added to my initial bitterness over it.

Yeah a "happy ending" tag would be nice for being prepared for things without it, but that's gotta be balanced against spoilers. I know some mods are for tags that spoil and some against, it's a tricky situation.

Oh well. At least it was a short one shot. I would have been really bummed if a series I was reading took a twist and ended like this.

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However it could definitely be unwelcome to someone who is not looking for it.

That's... why it's tagged Angst?

Agreed. But in my defence, not all Angst tag story have sad endings. I was convinced right up to the last page, of this story, that the wedding talk would turn out to be just a unfounded rumor, and the pair would end up together. I think the let down added to my initial bitterness over it.

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You don't get why people don't like this story. Well I 'll explain it. The story's sole purpose is to bum the reader out. There is nothing positive about the ending. No silver lining. No nugget of wisdom or character growth just the depressing realisation she discovered her feelings to late to do anything.
No it's not a tragedy , or a wtf. Just a sad heartbroken woman, who missed her chance before she even realised she wanted to take it.

I feel sorry for anyone who looks at a story like this and sees that .

Why? Enlighten me. What emotion am I suppose to feel after reading this story? What is the sweet that makes this bitter sweet, and not just depressing?

Off the top of my head it could make you feel empathy or a pang of recollection of a real life incident you had. Or make you reflect on people peripherally present in your life. The feeling I got was something to the tune of "shit, that could definitely happen to me, why am I so shy".

If I didn't have empathy for the mc, the story wouldn't have had any impact on me at all. And it sounds like it ended up bumming you out on an even deeper more personal level.
Look I was a bit bitter when I first wrote my original review. The other stories were light and airy, this story felt like a slap in the face. It's my fault for saving the angsty one to last. I stand by my statement though this story is ment to be sad, an nothing more. I just acknowledge that it serves a purpose. Like listening to sad songs after a breakup. It helps people who just need to feel sad. However it could definitely be unwelcome to someone who is not looking for it.

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You don't get why people don't like this story. Well I 'll explain it. The story's sole purpose is to bum the reader out. There is nothing positive about the ending. No silver lining. No nugget of wisdom or character growth just the depressing realisation she discovered her feelings to late to do anything.
No it's not a tragedy , or a wtf. Just a sad heartbroken woman, who missed her chance before she even realised she wanted to take it.

I feel sorry for anyone who looks at a story like this and sees that .

Why? Enlighten me. What emotion am I suppose to feel after reading this story? What is the sweet that makes this bitter sweet, and not just depressing?

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I don't understand why everyone's freaking out over this one. It's a really great concept and, like one person said, it addresses an idea that's fairly common, and experience that's (honestly) almost universal, but is almost never talked about. In just ten pages, this story zeroes in, starting from page one, on this idea and does not let go.

It doesn't feel tragic to me 'cause no one dies like in Philosophia (I'll never recover from that thing) and there's no connection. The story is entirely about MC. her love interest isn't even a love interest, or a character, until the last page. Ogawa's first appearance is a head with "OGAWA" written across the face in lieu of facial features. Ogawa isn't a person, she's a concept. She's unrequited, unexpected love, and that's all she's meant to represent.

Personally, the emotions I felt were directed at MC, not at Ogawa or even a presumed, potential relationship. Because it's not real. What's real is the feelings MC has. Deserving of the Aaaaangst tag, not Tragedy or WTF am I reading? I think the story does exactly what it intended to do and it's impressive that it managed to do so in so few pages. The mangaka clearly knows what they're doing. I enjoyed it, but I don't really feel sad. Feel sad for what? If anything, this is a moment for growth for the MC. But we never got to know Ogawa. I don't care. I just think it's an interesting story with a likable MC who is easy to empathize with. I wish her happiness in the future.

You don't get why people don't like this story. Well I 'll explain it. The story's sole purpose is to bum the reader out. There is nothing positive about the ending. No silver lining. No nugget of wisdom or character growth just the depressing realisation she discovered her feelings to late to do anything.
No it's not a tragedy , or a wtf. Just a sad heartbroken woman, who missed her chance before she even realised she wanted to take it.

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I just looked the artists who write this, and no surprise both guys.

Not surprising considering how the girls act and the yuri is handled. The girls act more like parodies of yuri characters than actual lesbians

This manga is sexist as hell. I hate it. I wish I knew why I feel compelled to keep reading. It's like I expect the story to suddenly morph into an actual yuri, or something.

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I just looked the artists who write this, and no surprise both guys.

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Fuck this story. It's painful for no reason. There is no positive take away. All bitter no sweet at all.

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Closet lesbian moms, in yuri make me sad. I can't help think, they were pushed into the arms of.. some... uck.. man (gag) when they were told that their high school romance was just a love game. lol.

Maybe, and I understand from your POV it’s all downside.

But I tend to see the character type more as women who feel they have done OK in life overall, but are broad-minded enough to keep their options open.

Na It's cool. Sacchan's mom seemed mellow with her life. I actually chalk "lesbian " moms, in comedy yuri up to the apparent japanese conception that all women adore all things cute.

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I really did not expect this series to go so fluffy—the early “Ayane’s mysterious illness” and “Micchan: Yandere in Training” pieces (not to mention Ayane’s immediate sexual aggression in the hospital) suggested to me something at least somewhat darker in tone.

Wow. WITH all the manga I read on this sight, I forgot this one started a bit dark. Maybe I should go back and reread it. I'll just put it the ever growing list of reads, and rereads, that I never seem to get to.

I don’t mind in the least—my primary preference setting for pretty much all my media consumption at the moment is “sweet and funny,” and this fills the bill quite nicely. But it’s not been quite the overall direction I initially expected.

Also: “Comedy yuri moms are all closet lesbians” seems to be turning into an ironclad rule. Not that I mind . . .

Closet lesbian moms, in yuri make me sad. I can't help think, they were pushed into the arms of.. some... uck.. man (gag) when they were told that their high school romance was just a love game. lol.

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That right ma'am Ayane-chan will tutor your daughter all night long. Starting with anatomy. gigaddy!

Edit: I guess Sacchan's friends did something nice for her in this chapter too. I wasn't really paying attention.

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@ClaudeSP89, @feihong

I don't have anything in particular to add, but I wanted to say that those were both really great interpretations of the story and I think they're pretty on base.

Damn, looks like everybody thinks I'm off the mark again. I aways feel like the goofy side kick that is completely clueless to what's really going on.

That's why i stop talking on those more serious Yuris. I never put much though when i'm reading.

Thanks now I don't feel so alone.

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Damn, looks like everybody thinks I'm off the mark again. I aways feel like the goofy side kick that is completely clueless to what's really going on.

I think when it comes to Sakagami, he's not really there to act as a rival. Hinako and Asahi both have pretty major emotional issues to work through still, and Hinako's mom will likely be addressed as well. Additionally, I think we'll probably get a fair bit more from Subaru. With the way Chapter 6 is setting up the conflict for the volume, I don't see how there would be room to add in a love triangle. I think at worst, he might ask her out and get turned down.

Meh no biggie. I came to a similar, but less sophisticated conclusion even as I was writing my post. I simply thought a love triangle didn't make sence, if Uno had to take the lead in her relationship, with Satou. Because as it stands now Satou wouldn't fight for Uno.She would simplly let Sakagami-san win. Plus Uno seems to have awakened to her true feelings. Going back to Sakagami-san would be a very disappointing step backward

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@ClaudeSP89, @feihong

I don't have anything in particular to add, but I wanted to say that those were both really great interpretations of the story and I think they're pretty on base.

Damn, looks like everybody thinks I'm off the mark again. I aways feel like the goofy side kick that is completely clueless to what's really going on.

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BEAVER DAMMED!

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Why can't some billionaire heiress fall in love with me!?

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The new ad campaign for Dr, Pepper is kind of risque. Don't you think.

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Another succubus series?

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This chapter really quieted my inner yuri sceptic. I would never have suspected that Uno would end up having to take the lead, in the relationship. I think Sakagami-san has his eye on Uno though. While I'm pretty sure my fear of a het twist ending has been put to rest, I can't rule out Sakagami-san becoming a romantic rival. After all Uno still has her mother's expectations to deal with. However it looks like it's going to be Uno chasing Satou, so I'm not sure how that's going to work. (scratching head) Maybe Sakagami-san is just a background character after all.

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It's difficult for authors to depict a heterosexual relationship without at least one man.

Yes, but I read yuri manga for the yuri relationships.

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Like, in this one, with chapter titles like “First Kiss” and “Second Kiss” (titles that accurately describe the contents), I’m as sure as sure can be that a het swerve is Not Gonna Happen.

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You mean.......
There are people predicting a het swerve, of all things, in this manga??
Thx heaven I didn't read the whole thread

Not quite that, I think (I'd have to re-read myself to be sure), but more general lamentation that the yuri-girls-school trope hypothetically allows for the "lesbian until graduation followed by het marriage" outcome in any yuri story.

Although references to the trope itself continue to appear (in YagaKimi, for one), I don't recall any recent stories where that was the actual outcome for the main plot.

But Comrade johnb is rather a worrier.

I am. No argument here. I've seen plenty manga authors stab yuri in the back for no reason.
For the the record, not even I could worry about a het apocalypse in this story.

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I really gotta say, I don't feel like there's much point to that comment except picking a fight.

No Blastaar is right it's all good. Although I'm not sure how to take being called a stuff donkey with a nail stuck in his ass.

Eeyore was the only one in that story I could ever relate to.

I get it. I'm totally Eeyore when it comes to yuri. I have to (over) compensate for my hypersensitive yuri goggles, or else I'd be pairing girls every time one asked to borrow a pencil from another. I just can't get the image of the tail nailed to my ass out of my head.

Edit: I've been burned before by a yuri suddenly taking a WTF het twist.

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I don't doubt it. I've just never heard of it. I guess we just never had that trouble before. Which is weird, because we have terrible ant problems, they just leave our sugar alone.

That was totally my reaction upon seeing that page too: "Who the fuck keeps their sugar in their refrigerator?" I guess I've just never had ant problems.

When I lived in Florida we kept a lot of stuff in the fridge that I never did prior. Sugar was one, so was cereal and bread. Sometimes to avoid bugs, like with the sugar, and others to avoid mold, since the humidity was so bad stuff like bread would go bad in less than a week otherwise. But till then I'd never seen such a thing so I thought it was weird at first too, lol

Maybe it's a regional thing.