Ren was expecting it. She isnt as dumb as she lets on.

Unlike Momo

I mean, it's not new that Nekozaki had trouble when it come to love, i mean did you remember what she said to herself when she though "what if Mikoto love me ?" here. Nekozaki seem to have bad experience with love so that's why she react like that.Seem to be like Useless Princesses in a less angst manner.

I wholeheartedly agree. The mangaka set it up pretty competently already that Nekozaki has some baggages that she needs to work through in regards to personal relationships, so this is not something out of left field. I can totally believe that Nekozaki actually wanted to sit on the confession for a long while while still remaining friends (which I neither condone nor condemn) but in her "stress mode" and infinite stupidity (since this still is a comedy manga after all) she blurted it out in the worst possible way.

TLDR: It's in character and makes sense in universe so I'm okay with it

At least someone who seem to understand. I think i should write n caps so people might notice it. I don't say what Nekozaki said wasn't stupid, of course it is and she seembto regret it by the end but if you remember what happen in the original (so quite possibly here), it should make a bit more sense that Nekozaki don't quite understand the concept of love and frankly, there was a hint last chapter. Like come on, if you read just a little into it, it make sense. I'm just baffled so much peoples don't seem to understand Nekozaki.

I mean, it's not new that Nekozaki had trouble when it come to love, i mean did you remember what she said to herself when she though "what if Mikoto love me ?" here. Nekozaki seem to have bad experience with love so that's why she react like that.Seem to be like Useless Princesses in a less angst manner.

Calling a poly ending lazy/cheap is pretty inconsiderate of how like that kind of relationship rarely gets depicted respectfully, (harem are just horny and don't really broach the subject). People only like love triangles because they've been used to reinforce monogamy, when they really point out that it doesn't have to be that way and brings misery otherwise. Someone doesn't have to lose and win.

Someone just skip a part of what i say, i said "poly ending in a love trainglae set-up" is lazy, if the poly ending or ploy itself is made without this set-up then i don't have a problem. The last sentence is mostly my problem for that. This ending for this set-up is like the author say "i don't feel like someone being sad so everyone win".
I mean Sayaka in Yagate had a good ending despite losing.

God, I really hope a poly happens between Sayo, Rinna and Mei. I mean come on, we had a chapter where Mei meets her teachers, then proceeds to ask them about being in a relationship with more than 1 person

Isn't that just normal asking when you see that kind of relationship though ? That doesn't she want the same relation, that just mean she is curious how the relation work.

then on top of that Rinna seems to be falling for Sayo while still having feelings for Mei.

Where ? As far as i'm concerned none of the friends seem to be interested in the others at all. Don't let the accident kiss fool you, Rinna's arrow is exclusively for Mei and nobody else. Her arrow for Sayo get popped in the same chapter she got it.

I said more than enough that to me Poly ending for solving a love triangle is like the cheapest way to do it, not to mention how unoriginal it will be if they just follow blindly the example of the teachers. Like what ? Next time she encounter a girl with a harem and it will be an harem ending ? I think it's better than they found their own love rather than just copy one of the love they witnessed.

And suddendly, a dick.

Himari is like, definitely polyamorous right?

Girl didn't even know the notion of love before so i highly doubt it. I just think she want her friends to go along together. You know, she just want them to reconcile not to go out with her.

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Although, I don't think it's appropriate to call these "side stories" anymore, there hasn't been a release for the "main" series in ages and it fully feels like these are now continuing the story proper. Maybe call it Season 2 or something instead?

It's because there was no update since long ago that's it's been stopped. For the matter, it's just the translation who are on hiatus right now, not the manga. So yes, it's called Side Story because thay are side stories.

"keep that one thought out of youre head" what is that? Who is that? What is that one thought utena-chan?

No that's Kiwi. All the thoughts were Kiwi's. The thought she talking about is the question she ask Utena "Did you do it because of the promise ?". Kiwi is not stupid and know Utena well and frankly Utena say it herself so Kiwi understand quickly that Utena probably does it only for the promise and not because she wanted to do it. That's why Kiwi wanted tokeep this thought out of her head, because it hurt her to know that the one she love does it with her purely for a promise.

yup, disinterest in this volume continues... and we all already know how this arc is going to end, it's so cliché.

Hima will obviously find some way to get them to make up and be friends again. Probably end with the "oh I'll become pro before you but we're friends again" rivalry type thing. The expected pointless drama will happen during that of course (probably Shiho being in love with Yori), but this is just the whole trope of "everyone is friends", since not being friends is an unheard of concept

this is the rare type of manga where the main couple are actually together long before the ending, so why is there no focus on their relationship or development of them as a couple? why are chapters being wasted on this uninteresting side character? :/

Because there is peoples interested in it maybe ?

It (almost) happen. Thanks or because of Vena,we and Kiwi get clamjam. Although there is 2 things i want to point. 1. Utena seem to do it purely because of the promise and Kiwi seem aware of it, question is did Utena really don't love Kiwi and only do it because of the promise or not ? Also i feel bad for Kiwi, going this far with someone who had probably no romantics feelings for you and fully knowning it. 2. What Vena mean by "Not letting Utena going this far" ? Did he fear that Utena might fall for Kiwi and maybe forgot about the goal ? I don't really understand for another reason (Also who bet he purposly put his drone under Tres Magia nose to stop the sexy time ?).
Also seem that next character arc is for Sulfur.

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What happen to Yuri Ichigo ?

Or better yet, is it updating elsewhere?

I doubt it since Yuri Ichigo does it and tbh i don't read it elsewhere. Unless someone does a MTL.

What happen to Yuri Ichigo ?

So we go full hentai logic and everyone is ok with BDSM without hesitation ? I mean, there is no way you gonna tell me she is not gonna smack her here, it's like asking for it to happen.

I mean, they're trying to get intel there and Kfufu isn't really prompt to help so of course they need to deceive her to get what they need. Kfufu isn't someone they could sugarcoat and have her saying what they want to hear. Trust me, they wouldn't get anything out of Kfufu if they didn't use such method.

They are dumb enough to bring the enemy into their base.

It's dumber to kill someone they can get intel off. And where did you want them to bring her anyway ? Anywhere on Earth will put at risk to have Sigma trying to get her back and have some civils casualties. Having Kfufu in her base is the safest option they have.

Sugoi Dekai Kasumi. Actually this one is a bit old because it's the cover of Vol.3

In the end of day, what the point of complaining or criticizing something if there will be always someone who said it's realistic in some ways or they experience the same thing ? People are bitter here because it's justfucking drama piling up again and again and again, it's just have been that non-stop since the beginning and it show no stop and it's just annoying.
Also

No. LI-TER-ALL-Y. I'm jealous of you guys, must be nice being the one on the pedestal, looking down on all the commoners from your royal throne. Would you like some tea, mademoiselle? Want to use my hand as your tissue? Go ahead, us commoners can just clean it up later. ;)

Being sassy because others peoples don't experience what you have experienced doesn't really help the conversation. Worse, it make you look like condescendinglike you're better than the others because you've experience You know, it's not because didn't experience one side that they experience the others.I sugger you calm down your horses before attacking peopleswho are not agree with you.

Speaking of relationship development, chapter 25 is about Kiwi and Utena! I'm excited for the translation and everyone's analysis of their dynamics with the new information. Will some of your theories be supported? Will they need to be revaluated? We'll find out soon*!

*When the translation happens

Completely unrelated to plot, I've once again failed to realize that a character actually has really long hair because her regular hairstyle has it gathered up. I saw the thumbnail for the chapter and was like "who's that??" lol

It's kinda a bit out of the blue for what happen. The attention was so focus on Utena/Azul lately that the chapter feel out of place because Kiwi and Utena had barely any moment since the date in an earlier chapter. So to have them jumping the gun like that by directly going to sexy time, without any kinky shit involved is rather strange. I don't have any real problem with it, rather that (for the 5th time this message) it's really coming out of nowhere.

The fuck you can't just say it was an old man ? I mean, i know it's technically a guy but why don't you say it was an old guy ?

42 chapters and more than 1 year. Holy duck this arc was long. It's funny that for amanga on superheroes, the longest arc was on Ninjas.

Been quite some time we had a chapter.

Yeah. On the bright side, this means we’re more likely to get multiple chapters in one go once Yuri Ichigo gets back to this series.

Still hope it doesn't last too long.

is it in general seen as more ok to add dicks if they're on a girl?

On who else you want to add dicks anyway ?

Bear in mind that Nirasaka doesn't know that Fuuwa know about Yukiko being a succubus so she can't know that Fuuwa is ok with it.

She does, Fuuwa told her directly in ch4p7, while also not leaving any space for interpretation as to her feelings towards Yukiko. That's why people are saying that Nirasaka is actively sabotaging their relationship here because she knows that Fuu knows, is ok with it, and has feelings for Yukiko, yet still presents Yukiko a hypothetical of Fuu rejecting her for being a succubus. This can't really be interpreted as anything else than malicious.

In any case, i think peoples still have the wrong idea on Nirasaka. She is not nearly as forceful as she was in the original, neither she seem to have feelings for Yukiko (at least for what i remember). My idea is she is trying to prepare Yukiko in the eventuality of when Fuu will be tired of her or simply trying to test the resolve of Yukiko toward Fuu. I personnaly don't think she is as malicious as peoples think.

people be defending this manga because the girl "doesn't know she's gay yet" "she's repressed" and blondie is just helping her understand that blah blah. THE PROBLEM IS ROMANTICISING AND NORMALIZING PREDATORY BEHAVIOR. when did she consent to any of these acts? why is the blond one so ok with forcing her into these situations? how is any of this shit ok? because its fiction? NOPE. because she "likes it" secretly? NO. This whole manga is grooming and rapey and it is disgusting even if you're not knowledgable enough to understand the issues here and just like the art. you enjoy it? who fckn cares? but don't defend this shit or try to justify the actions in this manga.

Question!
I haven't read AdaShima in either version yet, was banking on watching the anime blind. As much as I like the main characters and the look of the show, Yashiro has already driven me up the wall three episodes in. Will that thing remain such a nuisance for the entire show or does it go away eventually?
I think I could live with a normal character that organically fit into the dynamic, but a literal friggin' Alien trying its hardest to third-wheel and derail/delay things just for kicks? No thank you.
I haven't read far into this thread, so how's the Moke Version in this regard? Think it'd be more to my taste?

Thanks in advance.

Yashiro barging between them at the bowling date was the only time she does something like that. I can understand why people are upset about that part but that's like a one-time annoyance.

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