I hope this gets continued (ಥ﹏ಥ)

Same

So, i had some free time in my hands and made a tier list of this empire virgin couples and i would love to see you guys ranking! i´ll leave the link right here, hope you find this just as fun :)

Tier lists commonly lead to arguments in fandoms from what I've seen, so I often avoid them. Plus I don't really understand the appeal myself, there's certain couples I might favor a bit more here but I try not to play favorites. I generally like the whole cast for a variety of reasons, and I want to see where the author takes each character, that's about the gist of my ranking lol

Cat snuggle attack

I feel like I once saw a one-shot along these lines. Yuki is doing a great job making sure nothing goes to waste, and securing some intimacy with Mayu in the process, truly a masterful strategy.

was one of the scariest experiences of my dad's life.

Coming from a person who has literally fought in a war, that's quite unsettling.

Yeah and I should say it was one of several experiences over there where we he really thought he was going to die. Just not a good time all around, and surviving various scary situations that have stayed with him his whole life.

Well I hope she over comes her feelings for her sister and moves on to being in a good relationship with the girl that confessed to her. I know most people hate this arc, but if at least it goes in the right way the resolution should hopefully be good. Unless it all goes off a cliff and she hangs onto to her feelings for her sister forever, then I'll have no idea what to say lmao

Not really sure any of those factors matter when there's no indication of incest being part of this story from the name, description, and 95% of its content lol. It's just thrown in here suddenly as something of a pseudo-tragic backstory? And it's definitely not presented as spicy.
This isn't about self inserting either, but rather empathy: understanding what the feelings of the character feel like. Wanting to date someone you've grown up with under the same roof is an extremely alien emotion from my perspective, but it's frequently presented as not alien at all, but instead something familiar and understandable. And that is what I don't understand lol.

If we're specifically and only talking about this story I'll agree that it's not well introduced or handled. I should have also said that sometimes incest is included as a dramatic element in media, something shocking that adds an extra layer of complication to the relationships.

Between this and Sasakoi, I'm pretty burnt out on unnecessary incest added just to create tension and drama. But Fluffycow is tired of reading my rants about Sasakoi so I'll leave it at that. :P

At the same time these two manga are fumbling about with incest, Contract Sisters is tackling incest with a much defter hand. It's one of the main themes of the story and not just a distraction. It results in serious consequences for the characters involved and is not just a source of cheap drama.
And the reader can find Contract Sisters compelling while continuing to feel that incest is an alien emotion that's very difficult to empathize with.

Yeah I think the way Contract Sisters handles incest is interesting, though while I know I'm in the minority on Dynasty I also think the uncertain and confusing feeling of it is captured okay in Sasakoi, which I know that's something we agree to disagree on and that's fine. Ultimately I feel both series are generally better written than this one.

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Not really sure any of those factors matter when there's no indication of incest being part of this story from the name, description, and 95% of its content lol. It's just thrown in here suddenly as something of a pseudo-tragic backstory? And it's definitely not presented as spicy.
This isn't about self inserting either, but rather empathy: understanding what the feelings of the character feel like. Wanting to date someone you've grown up with under the same roof is an extremely alien emotion from my perspective, but it's frequently presented as not alien at all, but instead something familiar and understandable. And that is what I don't understand lol.

Well from my understanding the conversation was generally broad about the inclusion of incest, especially as I was quoting DrJamesFox's comment on it being a popular trope, and James saying they don't understand why it's popular. Jame's comment is what I was focused on, along with the nature of why people might enjoy it in media. I'm not saying it's spicy here, but it is sometimes included as a spicy taboo element in media. So I don't think my points and words are completely invalidated and worthless to this conversation.

If we're specifically and only talking about this story I'll agree that it's not well introduced or handled. I should have also said that sometimes incest is included as a dramatic element in media, something shocking that adds an extra layer of complication to the relationships.

I mentioned self insertion because there's some media consumers that self insert into an incestuous fantasy, which is something I don't relate to or understand. I'd like to think I'm a generally empathic person though there is a lot about how other people view and experience the world that puzzles me. In this situation all I can say is being human and having relationships of all kinds is often messy and highly complicated, which I can at least empathize with human relations being difficult to handle. Though again this story could be written better, and be better at introducing complicated relationships and feelings.

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I'll also say I guess somethings don't change with the world. My dad was in the Vietnam war in the 60s and he told me that once he was in a city and got a lift (I think from something other than a car) back to base, only to then be taken further away into a darker area, where my dad said he had to threaten the person taking him there to turn around. Which worked out in the end, but was one of the scariest experiences of my dad's life.

Oh man, this cab driver is already dead. Should've picked other targets for his scam

I wonder if we're going to start piling up bodies lol

I'd prefer to think of it as a "popular trope" thrown in to increase reader engagement
"Popular trope" in quotes because I don't understand why it's popular. I understand the step-sibling romance trope is popular because it's a easy way to get the love interests living together before they're dating.

That's generally it. Incest is a popular trope regardless of sexuality and country, porn in the USA typically doesn't venture into blood related incest stories, I think because there's more red tape, but step-family incest is one of the most popular genres of porn by a huge margin. With Japan there's a recent hetero anime about step-siblings, Citrus is one of the best selling manga with lesbian romance. Blood related stories do sometimes happen. I will say it's definitely not just a gay or Japan thing, incest blood / step-family related is just hugely popular in fiction in general.

Also as for if they expect the audience to empathize with it, I don't know? I don't self insert into media and I take it generally for what it is. Maybe some people empathize with it, I bet most just consume it as a spicy taboo story. People also consume tons of extremely violent media, and that's almost never questioned. Slasher movies were at one point in America one of the most popular and successful film genres. Violence is pretty popular in general with media and humans like things they probably shouldn't, it's often a core trait of humanity lol

Edit: As long as people can separate reality and fiction, that's the most important thing I think.

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^I think 91

No tags feels like a dangerous adventure into the unknown, and I have no idea what to even make of this story lmao

^ It's escaping containment!

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Rupa's tiny gremlin gf

Nina needs her daily or maybe even hourly kisses

Always love the size gap of these two

Hopefully Kanon doesn't melt with that full face blush lol

Date night with a spooky movie based on their expressions, varying amounts of fear/concern. Luckily they have lots of hand holding happening to get through it.

Lovely <3

Ahhhh, I'll miss Ame with Gura. Ame is funny and great with all the Hololive girls, but Amesame is really my Hololive OTP.

Well that's an eventual way to spend your time at 3am lol

^The perfect motivator for studying

And more than one kind of doughnut was eaten that night