I would say all of the "couples" in this series have some sort of interesting chemistry going on, it just isn't the smooth, lovey dovey flawless pure romance type of chemistry normally depicted in shoujo romances.

Then it's not chemistry... unless you are referring to negative chemistry, which creates nothing but toxic relationships that results in no positive outcome for anyone involved.

Except your original comment says that she doesn't want to focus on the romance side of their relationship, which insinuates that there is an actual romantic side of their relationship. You also say we dont know yet, as if you think there is a chance it will actually go yuri eventually.

Here's the thing, the author has made yuri in the past and didn't tweet any excuses about it nor say how she doesn't label her work and leaves it up to the readers. Here she is explicitly labels it "girlship" from the very beginning and has now on several occasions made sure that we know she doesn't see it as yuri. Saying it's up to fans just confirms the no homo, that it will end in friendship but the fans can ship her characters if they want. I would call it subtext if it weren't for the author coming out and saying that it isn't subtext.

I believe we do know, just some of us are in denial about it.

What about wishful thinking?

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For me, this series died when it started adding pointless badly written drama. Naru forgetting the very basics of coding while her supervisors never checked was simply unbelievable, but when Kou just forgot to tell Rin she was quitting and moving to France was the straw that broke the camels back. Sad to see the series hasn't recovered.

So this season there is for us Sounan desu ka, Granbelm and Machikado Mazoku, anything else?

How could you forget Symphogear?

Think i heard about that one. One of the MC get a BF in the end no ?

Yup. GirlA is super best friends with heavy yuri undertones with GirlB. GirlC shows up and starts hanging out with GirlB a lot. GirlA gets super jealous and readers believed that this confirmed the yuri. Then it is revealed that GirlC is actually a trap and is in love with GirlB and sees GirlA as his romantic rival. GirlA then reveals that that is rediculous because girls can't love girls and now she fully supports the trap in their pursuit of GirlB. 6 months later the trap and GirlB get engaged. Worst yet the trap is like 12 and GirlB is like 16.

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The fact she is going on a mini rant about it shows that it's not working.

That's because what she said doesn't match what she write. Who become jealous because she is no more the special "friend" of someone else ?

Ever read Amanchu? Guess how that ended. At least we can still expect this series not to go full Amanchu, no series should ever go full Amanchu.

Maybe because it can become yuri

If it could become yuri the author wouldn't be on a crusade about people insisting that it's yuri instead of "girlship". She is doing this in a roundabout way to lower reader's expectations while also trying to keep them from dropping the manga altogether. The fact she is going on a mini rant about it shows that it's not working.

https://twitter.com/93choco/status/1147664823741665280

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Why is it so hard for her to just get straight to the point that it isn't yuri but it's fine if fans ship the characters? This pretentious dribble is tiresome.

Why do you feel the need to tell everyone that men are more likely to be killed than women? Why do you feel the need to tell everyone to not give a fuck about potentially getting raped or murdered?

I'm pretty damn sure that's not their point. The point is that men have higher chances of getting mugged, murdered or killed in an accident because they don't take good advice to heart. They don't give a fuck and therefore have a higher chance of being hurt or killed for it. So why is it offensive all of the sudden to give good safety advice for women in order to protect themselves? If they find this advice offensive and ignore it then they just open up themselves to equally being hurt and murdered as much as men.

This post disgusts me so much and I feel like you are vastly missing the point of this strip. It is a reality for women to not EVER feel 100% safe when they are out late at night on their own, because of how disgusting the world is - and for the reaction to be "well she shouldn't have worn such and such outfit, she should have gone home with some friends" is outrageous and you are telling women not to give a fuck?

It's not outrageous at all. It's a sad fact of life. You can't stop criminals 100% of the time but you have far more control of yourself and can prevent putting yourself in possibly dangerous situations. Men should follow the same advice to stay safe, but they don't and are more likely to become victims because of it.

Also, men do not "accept the risk" that they might get raped if they go out for a fun night out with some friends and yknow decide to take an Uber home. So fuck off.

Raped? There is definitely a risk, much lower than women but it's there. But if they don't take proper precautions when going out they accept the risks of being robbed or assaulted.

Release the Spyce flop.
Endro! flop.
Namori career is over.
Tonari vampire flop.
Harukana Receive flop.
Comic Girls flop.
Man most yuri subtext/tease and CGDCT anime flops like crazy lately.
YURI SUBTEXT IS DEAD!!!!

I don't get how you are not banned when you only post bait to start arguments.

Friendly warning there is actually no yuri in volume one. Proceed with an open mind.

Yeah, no, I'm good. Too much drama and angst packed into one character is exhausting. I think this is where I get off, was fun while it lasted.

Liz is a story that essentially stands on its own. It's not an adaptation of any of the books, watching the TV anime isn't necessary to understand it, and it tells a complete story that needs no sequel.

No, it's an adaption of the chapters from the book the tv anime skipped over.

Or you could read it because it's a good story about friendship. Regardless of it going yuri route in the end or not.

Or I can read a story about yuri and not waste my time on pointless teen friendships. And this is why we have tags.

I'm actually starting to hate the person who asked that on twitter, is there a way to respond that without spoiling the ending? No, you say Yuri then they end up as a couple, you say friendship then is just a good bye ... I mean come on, whoever asked that is like those people here who complain about the Yuri tag because the don't kiss in the first chapter.

Maybe the author shouldn't have responded at all instead of just outright saying she doesn't intend to make it yuri. The person asking did us a service, we use tags for a reason and this is a prime example. It sets expectations, and now my expectations for this series have been toppled. I'm mad for wasting my time so far but glad that I won't waste any more knowing that there will be no strawberry inside this cake.

It always has and always will be yuribait, when they sunk the ship in season 2 people jumped to Liz and the Blue Bird but they are just not learning from history. It's just angst and adolescence not worth the effort.

fuuuuuuuckkkkkkkk I was really hoping for Shinobu

Don't worry, they end up together, too.

Actually Citrus won but hey, not in my opinion at least!

In an online poll, not exactly the most scientifically sound method.

If you want to go by disc sales, Bloom into You easily doubled the sales of Citrus.

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The reasonable thing would be to trust your partner won't cheat on you, like a grown-up. "There are boys" and "there is alcohol" does not mean sex with boys naturally happens.

"Grown-ups" cheat all the time. If you can't trust your partner not to go to drinking parties meant to hook people up then why do they deserve your trust not to cheat on you?

Again, I'm talking 'real life.' IN THE MANGA, again, Yamada is psychologically eleven years old and probably would get cornered and assaulted if there's a bottle of beer in the same room as her. In the context of the story, Kase was totally right.

No, you are not talking about real life. In real life it would be unreasonable to think that it's perfectly fine for your SO to go on blind dates or dating parties and think they have no plans to cheat on you. In real life, and if Yamada wasn't as dumb as a door knob, she would have realized how insane it would be for a Japanese lesbian to allow her in the closet girlfriend to go to a mixer meant to get her a boyfriend. In context with real life Kase was totally right.

Because, in real life, it'd be an unreasonable request. Yamada can hang out with her friends, including among guys that might hit on her, and including among people who are drinking. Especially if they say it's to form relationships with people who aren't their partner... which are healthy, and which partners should encourage.

Uh, no, it is reasonable not to have your partner get drunk at a party meant to hook people up. Yamada can hang out with her friend, just like Kase encouraged. She shouldn't hang out with her friend at a party where the entire goal is to drink and hook up with strangers. That's fucking insane.

Are we playing "I am the bigger victim, therefore you are at fault" game here? Did someone get killed when I wasn't looking? This is a communication issue, not a murder mystery where there's a clear cut Murderer and Victim. Neither anticipated what their partner was going to do. We are looking at a love story of 2 young, insecure individuals based in Japan, where effective and direct communication isn't very likely to take place.

Yes. We are playing this game when there are people here claiming as if they are equal in fault. One, Yamada, is clearly the main cause of issues and people here don't want to accept it. Some are even straight up making lies to try to act like Kase had any fault in any of this. It was Yamada who wanted to go to the mixer, it was Yamada who disregarded Kase's feelings, and it was Yamada who hung up the phone. You can't sit here and claim that it's a communication issue between the two when it is Yamada who solely made the decision to end all communication.

Ah yes, let me just smack myself or will power out of this emotion. No. People can't just switch on/off their emotions like that. There are ways to manage your emotions, but it's something that takes time and a certain amount of emotional maturity to understand and be aware of. Neither is very experienced with any of this since this is still pretty new territory for them.

Did you miss out that the entirety of the first series has the presence of Yamada's jealousy over Kase's supposed ex-girlfriend. It all culminated to the school festival when she finally hashes it out with the senpai, and even happily accepted that Kase once dated someone so wonderful. Now she is getting pissed at the sound of another girl within 10 meters of Kase. That's a severe regression that completely voids all the growth Yamada was supposed to have made through high school.

I never said Yamada was blameless in the whole fiasco, she handled it pretty poorly in fact and had to get bailed out by Kase. Kase also did push the wrong button which prompted Yamda to react so strongly against her wish. So both did something wrong and kind of started fighting.

Kase didn't push a damn thing, Yamada's biggest Trigger was Kase's gall to have roommate and that's just fucking ridiculous. Kase did nothing wrong at all.

But did the two have a big pissy fight after they leave the bar? No. They talked it out and made up. I would understand if people get up in arms if the two started playing the finger pointing blame game and drag out the shit fling for several chapters, but this was wrapped within one chapter. Why are the readers even more worked up than they are when the conflict actually resolved in a very responsible, civil and adult-like manner???

Because it's bad writing. Nothing is resolved no matter how the characters act. Nothing was wrapped up. The problems continue and seeing as how they didn't learn a damn thing from high school they won't learn anything here. Judging by how Yamada emotionally regressed severely since high school she is bound to regress even further. Hell, Kase has to beg Yamada to use her first name and right after they were suppose to make some progress Yamada switches back to her last name. Yamada is still the dead fish of the relationship, after all this time it is still Kase who is the only one initiating every intimate thing in their relationship. The ending of this chapter just reset them to exactly how they were before the phone call.

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Kase doesn’t get why the female roommate worries Yamada (on top of the unannounced weekend trip)

Reader's shouldn't either seeing as how Yamada should have gotten over her jealousy crap when she finally learned to get over the Inoue-senpai misunderstanding.

Yamada doesn’t understand that what she sees as helping out the first friend she’s ever made on her own sounds to Kase like two girls going out to hook up with boys.

She would have if she didn't hang up the phone.

Y'all act like Yamada went to pick up dudes and not to support her friend who didn't want to go alone. Like nothing in this situation is a betrayal of Kase and the fact that she feels jealous about it is understandable but not reasonable. Kase being concerned for Yamada's safety is a reasonable response due to her (kind of absurd at this point) naivete but being mad at Yamada for simply being in the presence of men she has no interest in because she wanted to look out for her friend is just unfair. Like, if you don't trust your partner to be faithful to you and they've given you no reason to mistrust them then it means you need to work on your insecurities it doesn't mean they need to stop doing perfectly harmless things that trigger those insecurities.

Y'all act like Yamada was not very adamant about how it was all about her making a friend and the only reason she didn't suggest doing something different was about not being close enough, it had nothing to do with her wanting to support her new friend. It is 100% a betrayal of Kase, especially when Kase herself is very open to how the whole situation makes her feel. And what does Yamada do? She hangs up on her because she refuses to listen to Kase's worries. When Yamada acts like that then it is absolutely reasonable for Kase to respond the way she did. There is nothing harmless about Yamada going to a college drinking party meant to hook people up. Yamada can't even beat the peer pressure from her new friend and suggest going somewhere else to hang out, you really expect Yamada to resist the peer pressure of conforming to social norms and not drink and "have fun" at the mixer?

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Both made mistakes, both realized they made mistakes, and they both learned from this experience.

Stop acting like their mistakes are equal.

There is a huge difference between Kase not updating Yamada on every thing she does in college when Yamada made it a point in high school to avoid over associating herself with Kase's club life and Yamada choosing to go to a mixer despite Kase being very up front about how that makes her feel.

This series really has gone down hill since Naru and Momo were introduced.