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I'm not sure why everyone is saying Yuni should have therapy now. Not saying she doesn't need it, but this is the first chapter since the beginning in which she seems to be pretty honest with herself, and with Fuuko. It looks like she is starting to sort out her feelings, which is a good thing. Of course she is going to be even more a of mess while doing it, she has so much to unravel.
You'd almost believe Erika is the MC.
She is thought, among Aya and Koto. The whole story is about resolving their triangle situation.
And while she is not my favorite character, I think she is the most interesting one. Koto is easy to read, she needs to get past her trauma. I definitely wants to see her evolve past that but at the present time, she is too consumed by it. Aya appears to be too perfect on the surface (not saying she is), which makes the whole trio a bit unbalanced, as it looks like she is the only one not affected by her disappearance. She just live her life, dealing with the issues she's having, but she doesn't seem trouble by it, or very little. Erika on the other hand is the most conflicted character of the trio and seems to be the more self aware of the three. And she is hiding something, which has yet to be revealed.
We don’t know how the supernatural element in this story works or who caused it, so it’s theoretically possible that Aya’s disappearance will somehow turn out to be Erika’s “fault,” but anyone who claims that it is for sure at this point is simply irrationally ranting.
But even it was due to Erika's wish, it's not like it makes her a bad person. Most people have at one point of their life wish for someone to disappear, die or another other thoughts like that. It's quite normal, especially as a teenager. It doesn't mean people truly wish for those things to happen, but having those thoughts is quite normal, as long as it's not an obsession. And if Erika did wish for Aya's disappearance, I think we all can agree that it was probably on the spur of the moment and not something she did obsesse over. It's not like suw thought it would really happen either... She was a rival, both in life and in love, wishing for her to vanish was honestly quite normal...
I actually really like that side of Erika, because she is portraited as a realistic human. She can see her inner thoughts, so of course we know all about her dilemma and trouble. When she suggested to Aya to reevaluate her relationship with Koto, it was honestly a good advice. The reason she felt bad was because the reason she gave that advice was probably for her own selfish reason, but this is totally understandable. The fact that she is feeling bad/is conflicted about it shows that she is not a bad person. We have to keep in mind that this is not something normal. In real live, if we were to see that person do those actions, we would only see a supportive friend doing what's best for them.
The type of inner thoughts Erika has makes her the most "advanced" character in terms of personal development, because she is aware of her own flaws and feels bad about it. This is the first step towards overcoming oneself and becoming a better person. She still have to resolve her feelings towards Koto though...
Citing specific evidence from the text rather than speculation or headcanon, please explain exactly what Erika did seven years ago.
No need to explain it to you.
@Aikosaurus knows what I'm talking about lol.
No I don't... That's exactly what I was saying about how some people are choosing to interpret characters in this manga.
There is nothing indicating that Erika did something bad. We know that we had a talk with Aya, and she seems to have some remorse about it (but it could be for a lot of reasons), but that's is. All the things you are saying about her is just fabulation based on very little evidence. If you chose to interpret that way, that's your choice, but don't force your interpretation on other people saying this is based on facts.
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It's quite funny how in this manga, some people are very passionate about making some of its characters look like terrible people (to the point of saying they should have a painful death), while the author clearly didn't wrote any of those characters as inherently bad. But in "My girlfriend is not here today", people are defending with passion characters that have been written to be terrible people.
I know those two manga have very little in common, but it just makes me chuckle to think about that paradox.
Saying Kanna would have to give up her life in LA to be with Joe is a bit of stretch. As far as I remember, we don't know much about her life there, if she truly enjoys it or if she would feel like giving up something if she was to go back to Japan. It is also entirely possible that she would like to be back, but doing so, while not being able to be with Joe would be too hard for her, so she prefers to be far away.
I do agree with others though, that if Joe finally confessing or having them talk at the airport is enough for them to be together and resolve the situation is also too much of a stretch. They clearly need time and proper discussions about it, but at the same time, we shouldn't assume what Kanna truly wants out of this.
The reader doesn't normally have to make unfounded assumptions about this stuff, because a drama plot normally tends to set up the stakes in a timely manner so the reader has something to go on when trying to predict outcomes.
In other words, it's actually reasonable to assume that Kanna was not unhappy with her life or career overseas if this detail has not been brought up so far, given that her subplot seems to be right on the cusp of its climax.
You do have a point. It's not super clear if her life in LA is satisfying for her or not. But the fact that Kanna went back to Japan, not just for visiting but for a few months, the fact that she tries to get Mitsuki to go to LA with her and the fact that she left in a hurry after what happened with Joe are enough hints for me to at least suspect her life in LA is not ideal. I guess we will find out pretty soon.
Saying Kanna would have to give up her life in LA to be with Joe is a bit of stretch. As far as I remember, we don't know much about her life there, if she truly enjoys it or if she would feel like giving up something if she was to go back to Japan. It is also entirely possible that she would like to be back, but doing so, while not being able to be with Joe would be too hard for her, so she prefers to be far away.
I do agree with others though, that if Joe finally confessing or having them talk at the airport is enough for them to be together and resolve the situation is also too much of a stretch. They clearly need time and proper discussions about it, but at the same time, we shouldn't assume what Kanna truly wants out of this.
I do think it's reasonable for "don't show your genitals to a non-lover" to be considered common sense. Like yeah there are exceptions for doctors and such, but Makino blowing up is not crazy, even if how she expressed it was Bad.
Essentially what I think about that situation. And the issue is not only that. Imagine entering your apartment, when your partner is supposed to be alone, but they are not, they are with a friend you were wary about, while showing their genitals to that friend... Most people would not react rationally in that situation.
Annnd the author makes Makino say something mean to make her the unambiguous bad guy in the argument so we don’t have to deal with Mashiro essentially going behind her back when Makino SAID this girl made her uncomfortable and outright just showing her pussy to said girl. I’m gonna be real that pisses me off quite a bit. Mashiro was unambiguously in the wrong at the end of the last chapter and now she’ll be treated as totally justified because the author had Makino say mean things.
I felt that way as well. What Mashiro did was out of line, but Makino is bearing the whole fault. It doesn't excuse what Makino said, but anyone in that situation would react poorly I think... Honestly, the whole university arc is not really interesting and I haven't really been engaged with the story anymore. This whole situation is a bit ridiculous in the first place is it looks like the author is running out of idea to bring drama in the story. As any other drama in the manga so far, it will be resolved quickly but still, I'm really not fond of this story arc.
I re-read the whole thing from the start and I can say with certainty thal all four girls in this are bitches in their own way.
Yuki is, in appearances, the only innocent character in this, but she's actually the source of many of Nanase's troubles with Yuni. From dragging her around in the festival, indirectly kissing with her, constantly hovering around Nanase and meddling in her life, confronting Yuni about the cheating in Osaka, thanking Nanase loudly about the accessory, at every turn Yuki has been "innocently" breaking Nanase's relationship. I think it's been a while since she's been attracted to Nanase, but didn't acknowledge it to herself. In the guise of being the "best friend", she effectively participates in ruining Nanase's love life. I'll call her "Self-righteous Bitch #4".
So in the end, no one here is good, as intended by the author. It's a clusterfuck of relationships between girls with issues. All characters are indefensible in some ways, making bad and dumb decisions.
This train wreck is both ugly and beautiful and if you can't see it, then it's not for you.
Thank you for pointing out that Yuki is a bitch as well in some way. Given how people are still defending Fuuko or Nanase, while they are obviously pretty bad in their own way, I didn't want to make a case for Yuki, but your summarized the situation pretty well (also, not relevant, but I also think she have a bitchy face a well).
To had on the "emotional cheating" of Nanase, I've also noticed that when Yuni sent her a picture of herself asking her is she was cute, Nanase answered "you look different". But when Yuki asked her how she looked, she directly answered "you look cute" with a warm smile. I think this was a call back as to when Yuni asked her, when she was in Osaka.
As you say, it's fun to read because this is a giant mess.
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Just don't read it then :)
Not really a fair response when the maybe-incest surprised us after like 40+ chapters. It's different when the incest is an obvious premise from the beginning.
Indeed. That reminds me of Usagi drop. Never felt that betrayed by a manga before (even if after taking a step back, the signs were there).
Incest is weirdly normalized in manga. I was told it's because there are a lot of single child in Japan, so they fantasized having siblings (in a weird way). I don't know if it's true, but it always disturbs me, even if I'm able to look over it when it's minor in the plot.
Reading the comment section is always as entertaining as the manga's drama.
I kind of get it, that people wants to defend the girl being cheated on, but Nanase is just a terrible girlfriend. First of all, she is the one who confessed. Which doesn't makes any sense, because she never makes time for her girlfriend, nor does she is showing much affection to her. Since the beginning, the fact that she is busy with her club is comprehensible, but she not only takes a lot of time for her club activities, but also spends tons of time with her club members, going out and celebrating. On top of that, she is also very close to her childhood friend and spends a lot of time with her. Yuni is just never on her mind.
None of the things above are problematic, but when you get yourself a girlfriend, and still doing all of the above, making no time for her, WHILE expecting your girlfriend to support you (like taking a round trip to Osaka which is super expensive, just to see your game, while not spending time with your gf outside of that)... This is just super selfish. Did she get a girlfriend just for emotional support when she needs it while not wanting to give anything in return? Because it does look like this to me. Just stay single if you can't chose between all of your priorities, there is nothing wrong with that...
Don't get me wrong, cheating is bad, and Yuni is a terrible girlfriend too. I will never justify cheating. But damn, Nanase is also an asshole, just not the same kind.
can you make more excuse harder for the dumb beloved Yuni? you spend a wall A WALL of text making excuses for way Yuni did what she did! Nanase is not an asshole but sure in your head all victims of cheating has to have a blame in the OTHER person cheating first, and continue to cheat and continue to be the biggest asshole ever
Damn, people can sure become emotional with this title (this is the kind of comments I enjoy reading lol). I've never said I excuse anything Yuni did. I was just making a case of why I think Nanase is a terrible gf. Both Can co-exist at the same time. The whole post is about Nanase, not Yuni. I don't justify in any way Yuni's action. Just because of is a cheater doesn't mean the other party is a good person...
Not that you care, but my moral standard for cheating is actually pretty high. I actuality don't think I can make a case for justifying cheating, not matter the situation. Because for me, cheating is not only breaking the trust of your partner but also breaking your self trust in the process. This is also about self respect.
Still, I stand by the fact that Nanase is a terrible girlfriend. Nya-chan's post is also making really good points about it as well.
Reading the comment section is always as entertaining as the manga's drama.
I kind of get it, that people wants to defend the girl being cheated on, but Nanase is just a terrible girlfriend. First of all, she is the one who confessed. Which doesn't makes any sense, because she never makes time for her girlfriend, nor does she is showing much affection to her. Since the beginning, the fact that she is busy with her club is comprehensible, but she not only takes a lot of time for her club activities, but also spends tons of time with her club members, going out and celebrating. On top of that, she is also very close to her childhood friend and spends a lot of time with her. Yuni is just never on her mind.
None of the things above are problematic, but when you get yourself a girlfriend, and still doing all of the above, making no time for her, WHILE expecting your girlfriend to support you (like taking a round trip to Osaka which is super expensive, just to see your game, while not spending time with your gf outside of that)... This is just super selfish. Did she get a girlfriend just for emotional support when she needs it while not wanting to give anything in return? Because it does look like this to me. Just stay single if you can't chose between all of your priorities, there is nothing wrong with that...
Don't get me wrong, cheating is bad, and Yuni is a terrible girlfriend too. I will never justify cheating. But damn, Nanase is also an asshole, just not the same kind.
Every few months, I'm stopping by one of the library in Tokyo with the largest yuri selection to buy some of the latest yuri release, and I was gladly surprised that the first volume of the manga was out in a physical release! I completely miss any announcement about it, but I remember Kabocha mentioning that a physical release would only happens if the ebook had decent sales, so I'm really happy for her!
The first volume has a few exclusive extra pages at the end. The ebook version as well, but the extra pages of the ebook are not in the physical release and the one in the physical release are not in the ebook version.
Support the author if you can!
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I'm not sure why a lot of people are saying it's too late, while the fortune cookie tells otherwise. It's clearly a hint that Joe will do something about that situation.
Joe better step up his game, or he will forever regret this, him not doing anything and being a pussy, taking everything for granted.
Yeah, for sure, but at the same time, she is the one whom left. We don't know much about what happened back then but from the little we know about Joe, I think he could have considered them becoming a family. But it's really difficult to impose that on your partner if your partner never really hinted that it was something they wanted.
As always, communication issue at it's best. I hope they can resolve their issues now and from a happy little family :)
Funny, that's not how I read the situation at all with Kanna. For me, she is telling Aya something like "if being her friend is enough for you, don't dwell on it and enjoy the thing you wanted to do with her, without her.".
Basically, get over it and continue your life (like she did with Joe).
I still see her as an obstacle for them becoming a couple. She was the one pushing for Mitsuki to go to America. She will probably push her to follow music rather than a relationship with Aya. Of course, Mitsuki can do both. But I don't think Kanna wants to think it's possible. Otherwise, it would mean that maybe it could have been possible for her and Joe to find a way to stay together.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that the impression I have of the situation.
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Probably the same for me. It was kind of fun up to a point, but this is seriously becoming ridiculous. I'm not even angry or anything, this is just ... bad.
It's always been a bit ridiculous. Remember the early silent second MC chapters (otherwise known as the "mysterious Yuzu" chapters, as b58 called them). It kind of improved for a bit but it's gone back to being very mechanical.
The characters don't act like real people. That happens in every story to some extent but normally the writer can mask it. Here you can constantly feel the writer kicking the ball down the road, hence the comments. People don't like when the mechanics are obvious and/or repetitive. This story has a lot of both.
Yeah, you are right, this is both a problem with the same gag being overused, and seing the author pulling the strings rather than feeling the characters are real (it can be a comedy while still having believable characters).
Even if they get together during next chapter, it won't even be enjoyable at this point.
The issue is not really the trope of having two characters obviously into each and not noticing it. This is fine and even cute/funny to an extent. But when one of the said character is being clearly explicit and the other reacts as "don't me make me wish for the impossible", this is just plain stupid... The girl said she wants you, and is trying to kiss you... What do you think she is going? Declaring to you that she is a really, really good friend?
At one point, the stupidity of a character stops being cute and is just annoying. But well, if some are still enjoying it, maybe there is a public for that.
Are people still enjoying this? Because at this point it's just sunk cost fallacy that keeps me here
Probably the same for me. It was kind of fun up to a point, but this is seriously becoming ridiculous. I'm not even angry or anything, this is just ... bad.
Aah, finally!
Just re-read LN vol 6+ recently, and am so glad at how well this was adapted.
Noice!
At which volume of the LN this moment occurs? I'm curious at how much I have to catch up if I pick up the LN.
That last panel—poor Aya . . .
I feel certain that all will be well in the end. But . . .poor Aya.
Yeah, it would be nice to see a bit more of Mitsuki's side as well. I know she admitted to herself that Aya was her safe place, but at the same time, we don't know that much about her own feelings and considering what is happening lately, i understand that Aya feels like Mitsuki doesn't need her anymore (not that it's true, but it does feel that way).
I'm definitely on the "Fuuko did nothing wrong" train lol. She has simply acted rationally in her own interest and has not violated any agreement or relationship she had with someone else. Yuni's cheating but Fuuko isn't.
Sure, she did not. Manipulation, black mailing, temptation... Pure as an angel.
She is my favorite character, but saying she did nothing wrong is pushing thing too far. If she did, she wouldn't even be an interesting character. For me, actively pursuing someone that is already in a relationship is also reprehensible as well. Presenting the option to the other party is one thing, but pushing for it is reprehensible in my book (not as much as cheating, of course). She is like an incarnation of temptation, it doesn't excuse Yuni's actions, but it doesn't make it less reprehensible as well.
It's understandable why Sendai isn't confessing. She was stopped by Miyagi. After that, I'll doubt she will say anything anytime soon.
That's why I started to lost interest a bit in the WN. The author is more interested into dragging the serie as long as possible, rather than having an organic progression. It was a nice chapter regardless, but I don't expect anything significant to happen before another 40-60 chapter (it seems like there is kind of a milestone happening very 50 chapter or so).
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is it's now clear that Sendai's student has a crush on her. And it seems that Sendai has picked up on this crush.
I wonder how this will come into play in future chapters. Will Miyagi somehow find out about this? Will the student(Kikyo?) continue to try to find ways to spend time with Sendai? Will Sendai have to let Kikyo know that she's more than just "roommates" with Miyagi so Kikyo knows she has no shot at romance with her.
I wouldn't call it a crush. She is just someone she is looking up to and admire. Not denying her potential feelings, but that's not how I read it.