But technically.. I am also saying this on the internet XD

But it's better from someone who have actually observed in the crowd ;)

Little info there: from country to country the level in which I could say this girl is butchy is different..
Irish girls are way more into looking feminine compared to the practical Germans. I could hardly detect if a girl is a lesbian or butchy in Germany XD.. not so hard in Ireland.

Culture has an effect on this too.

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Okay. So some of them wants to be perceived as a man and actually wants to be one and some just want to look like one. I was just curious of what they actually feel and think of themselves because we have trangenders who actually wants to be physically.
Thanks, that's informative.

On topic: since we are all talking about ending, how high is your percentage for sejuxsumin? Haha XD

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Hey nora i wanna ask you something off topic..

Yes sure. I will be there.

Butch- they look masculine and act like guys, do they feel like they are guys too? I mean, like they wish to be guys? Google says it all but i'd prefer first hand info. Not everything they say in the internet is true, right? ;)

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Hey nora i wanna ask you something off topic..

Edit: It is an opinion if one says something. It is a theory if one says something and back it up with past events and logic. They are different.

So having an opinion and a theory in an argument is not advisable. It will never end and end well. Good thing you pointed that out.

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Relax girls

After reading the latest comments i am even convinced of a SuminxSungji ending.
There are some very well written comments on here though. Now, just because i favour this ending does not mean i will be surprised of a SuminxSeju ending nor do i hate Seju either.

Very true, esoteric. However, I think Norah is the catalyst in here. Without her detailed comments, I do believe it would not be as enlightening as it is right now, anchorings facts with facts, thus infering is possible. It doesn't hurt to give credit where credit is due. Have a nice day, esoteric.

It's not the oozing comments that makes it convincing, yes maybe a bit but the direction of the story itself, how it's progressing. I so want sumin and seju together but it wasn't possible 10-15 chapters ago. I bet a 1 % chance for seju and It was all sungi while seju's world was crashing. But now the story is slowly progressing and had come to a point where we could no longer be sure who ends with who. Without facts and only theories you really can't be sure. Well nora was very in depth in her analysis, connecting dots, but i don't always agree or disagree.

Now that we have lots of information from the story, suminxseju is not really impossible now. And so my 1% is now 50%. After next chapter it might change, depends on what happens. Actually my only point is, it's not the comments but the story itself.

What Creme brûlées, roamsl?

Hahahaha, no no.. I was pointing at nora's last post on the previous page. Sorry

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I think of it as one off of sumin's list of things given to her by seju on a silver platter. Turns out, she's very good in her job. XD

Enk

Where did you get the information?

various posts in this thread, don't remember with page though.

Oh. I didn't read the previous pages. Thanks

Enk

Where did you get the information?

Yes,Wdfs is a brilliant story with smart and bad-ass characters make we surprised then admire when we finally get or figure out the reason why they do this or that. Have you watched Gone girl? I have a big huge crush on Amy for what she had done for her love, even though she is a disturbing villain,hehe

Yes. I like amy, she's smartass but at the same time i'm also scared of her because of the extent of what she did for her marriage.

methetruth

I am going to delete my comments on our personal chats. Let's focus on wdtfs hehehe :) nice to meet you though

I wonder why you guys never think of that Seju's brothers should run away to America already since they could also be killed by one another or by Seju?

I think they will gang up to go after seju's inheritance first especially if it's a lot more than them. Then they can all kill each other. Lol

Not a break xD. Sumin wont accept it and back down without a fight xD. You focused on Sungji's next action and forget Sumin's choice as well xD. Do you think she lets Sungji walk away from her life without proper reason like that, she loves her xD. Push her into choosing, the most she said "give me time" or "I cant choose, please, Sungji", lollllll, she wont give a definite answer xDD because she herself also cant do it.

It will be just like that, sungji will make the move and sumin will make the choice. Even if she puts a fight, whether she likes it or not she has to choose and let go 1 of them. Sadly, she can't have both. Also, the way i see it, sungji has made up her mind to stand firm whatever is it she wants to and can't be swayed.

Haha, yeah, sorry, what I said is based on what I perceive in the story, not how it is for my own favorite character so if I saw sungjixsumin a couple, I wont go "I hope sejuxsumin a couple" xDD, if they're hopeless, I said its hopeless xDD. Sorry for making you feel bad

Oh no. You didn't make me feel bad, but the direction of the story did, which is sungjixsumin.
And i'm already immune to that so if they really end up it wont hurt that much..lol

But for what its worth, right now, they're not that hopeless like they were about more than 10 chaps ago. That's good thing, right? XDDD

Yeah! 10 chaps ago, i perceived 1% chance and really really felt bad about that, but now it's 50. So yay!

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Actually I've had this one question long before this but now I want to know the answer more, even if Seju let go, would Sumin be able to let go and not care about Seju's well-being?

yoonie sungji wont let go, seju wont back down too. And sumin won't let go of sungji that easily and now you ask if sumin can let go of seju. What are we going to do? Hahaha lol
I dont know what to think anymore. Hehehe

You guys actually look down on Seju too much xD. So you think after her father's death which means nothing could hold her back about outing them or fighting them back, she would just stay there for them to do whatever they want without doing sth to protect herself or just running away from them like a coward? XDDD

She also has the money, the power, everything else she needs to fight a fair and square war with them and protecting who she cares for. Why do you jump right to her running away right away without a fight first? XDD

Seju has the will to fight against them since chap seven sth, sorry couldnt remember. Unless she is too afraid of those old men who only know how to use money to threaten her, instead of their brain xDD. Seju is smart, you know xD

I don't look down on her at all. She's perfectly capable to take care of her own family affairs and she's my champion lol. Seju doesn't care about her safety or her life, she only cares about sumin. If sumin's safety in on the line, she might think twice of letting go. I only consider this a possibilty if it's going to be sungjixsumin ending. It can be a possibility. Lol

Actually, I think It's time for Seju letting go. Since the Baek president has died ,not that means Seju now will confront the hatress from her brothers without defense even though there is Saehyun?So if Seju wants to keep her safety and then Sumin's, should she letting go?

I also consider this, if its sungjix sumin at the end, the only to way for seju to let go is sumin's safety being threatened by seju's brother. So she will be forced to leave the country for sumin's sake.

XD, I'm not so sure about the part where Sungji decided to make Sumin choose, even though her words indicate that, lol. She tolerates Seju for staying at the house cuz of the pain Seju is enduring, now she said someone has to have that pain, lolllll. Means she has enough, lollll

She might not ask sumin to choose in a very direct way because it's not her character but in a state of anger and frustration she might. I think Sungjis next course of action is very crucial but I still think she missed the opportunity to be assertive and be in charge because again, there is a situation where seju needs sumin, more than ever. She decided it's time to call the shots in that perfect moment lol.

This chap is SejuxSungji and next chap will be the talk between SuminxSungji, I'm 90% sure of that, lolllll. I really wanna know that talk leads to where, lol.

Oh yeah. Me too. It's their moment. What do you think gaji will do? Is it a make or break? Haha lol

There is no reason for Sungji to back away, though. In her shoes, Seju is showing that Sumin loves her, not Seju, Seju is requesting a way to hurt Sumin. What do you think Sungji will let go? No, she wont xDDDD

If we agree that the only way for happy ending couple is someone letting go, provided no one is going to die, get amnesia, go crazy etc lolll then i vote for sungji to let go.

Its not exactly Sumin is prioritizing who more than who atm, though. Its just her not be able to leave anyone in any distress or pain because of her.

Atm, sungji is in pain, seju will have a lot of pain, what is she going to do????? Now i think she needs to prioritize, and put her heart first. I'm so looking forward to this.

Seju letting go? About 20 years more? XDDDDDD.
Or maybe amnesia xDDD and leave the country without trace, lollll. SungjixSumin happily ever after, lollll.

I'm already so used of your sungjixsumin happily ever after that if they actually end up, i don't feel that bad anymore. Lol But i'm still with nora. Sejuxsumin happily ever after.

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You could say that Sumin is stuck between a rock (Sungji) and a hard place (Seju and the past)

I'd rather be in a quick sand and have a quick way to be 6 ft under the ground than go insane.

So imo, the best way? Creating a situation for Sumin to realize that she can be free from one of the person and free of guilt as well as realize she loves and value the other person alot and she is willing to be with the other person without being bothered by the person who left
=> which means one of them has to let go firsttttttttt for Sumin to realize sth next, LOLLLLL. But damn, both of them dont want to let gooooo, LOLLLL

I agree someone needs to let for sumin to be happy and free of guilt whomever she will be with.
Okay. So at this point, no one wants to let go but it's also a good opportunity for someone to realize she needs to let go. I'm not saying sungji should let go but if sumin will go with seju then its a big realization for sungji where sumin always prioritizes seju over her.

On the other hand, can you see seju letting go? For me, Unless she dies or a plot twist in her brain. But what about suminxsungji?

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If sumin won't be running with/after seju after hearing about the death then i'd go for sungji.

I believe she will be with Seju if she knows

• She chose to knit for Seju gloves even if Seju doesnt care about hand made stuff, and went "your hand might cold as well", simply said, she is just worried for Seju a lot.
• She still chose to be with Seju in bed even though she was also afraid of Sungji's reactions, and that just because of nightmare. What about now? Seju's father is dead. This is way more serious than nightmare for sure

This is one of the reasons I go for Sumin didnt know theory =))))))

I get your point. But i still go with sumin knows.
If she still go with sungi then that's it.

I agree whatever excuse sumin said about sleeping with seju, she still chose seju over sungji in that situation. I think the glove was sweet, even if it's a left over deep inside her, she cares for her a lot.

I agree sumin will go with seju but i will give her the benefit of the doubt to choose sungji in a very difficult situation. And At this point, sungji can no longer accept any excuse from sumin's actions.

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=> I'm not sure which way the author will go, making Seju's world go wrong in every way at the same time or making Sumin more stress about the situation, Seju's distress or Sungji's decision.

I hope for sumin in a big dilemma. It's been a loonnng journey, i want to see the end of this. More guilt and guilt from sumin whatever way this one goes. Now who still wants to be in sumin's shoes. I'd die of stress.

If sumin won't be running with/after seju after hearing about the death and seeing sungji and seju both waiting,then i'd go for sungji.

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They're the main theme after all but they can use it to make an ending completely the opposite to strongly prove their point. XD

That would... not make sense honestly.

Honestly, I'm giving SungjixSumin the benefit of the doubt for everything, that's why I go for even the nonsense theory. Its true that SuminxSeju has lot of "forever" background behind them while SuminxSungji lacks of that. Thing is what is the author trying to prove? Forever is nonsense or forever is ultimate thing in love?

I agree with yoonie it can go both ways. In fact, it's probably the crux of the story

I'd go for Love is sweeter the second time around. Lol