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Cute. Wonder how much longer this manga will continue for. I am enjoying them just figuring out life together while, you know, actually dating.

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Motherrussia

Okay this is actually brilliant. I want more of this Hime/Sasha interaction.

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It's hard for me to see this truly going anywhere in terms of a long term story, but as a short story, this is pretty cute.

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tl;dr Neutron stars are as dense as it gets with normal matter. If you allow for spacetime shenanigans, stellar-mass black holes under 10^28 metric tons are what you want.

So the answer would be a black hole, the smaller the better?

I'm convinced now: Yvonne's mother's maiden name was Blackhall.

This makes her name Yvonne Smolle(s)tt Blackhall, which suits her to a T.

Hah, that's a good one. Even if it's less Yvonne being dense and just her not being willing to accept it.

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I never clicked on a new release so fast as I clicked on this one.

I just couldn't wait to read the continuation of the story after last chapter's cliffhanger.

And this is what we get? Flashforward to after the crisis is over? Elsa with a random bandage and Evie feeling guilty?

No way the novel progressed this way. We got screwed by the manhua. :/

Folks previously said that this was a side chapter addition: meaning the whole date/play event didn't happen in the novel. Assuming that this morning scene IS in the novel, I'm guessing that the novel basically started a chapter with the girls waking up and Elsa having a bandaged injury caused by Evie, without ever explaining where it came from.

The date did happen in the novel. The manhua so far has never deviated from the novel plot.

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What is the average translation from web novel chapter to manga chapter? Like, does one chapter of the manga cover roughly one chapter of the light novel?

Ch27 of the manhua corresponds to twenty chapters of the webnovel. So almost 1:1 on the whole. So far technically 1.25 to 1.

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riverFlower Uploader
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Aww, I was hoping we’d actually get to see some of the play, darn.

This story arc (the date to watch the play) is not yet finished in the web novel, so it’s resolution will first be seen in the manhua.

Doesn’t the web novel have over 200 chapters? How could this be the case? Did they shift events around that much?

Yeah I was confused about this as well. I think I've been spoiled on some developments way down the line, so I thought there was a ton more novel content left.

Doesn’t the web novel have over 200 chapters? How could this be the case? Did they shift events around that much?

I'm seeing some confusion over the story arc's unfinished status, so please see what I wrote for chapter 23 - that's still applicable. Chise went back and inserted a couple of new chapters and a new story arc (regarding the date and the play) in between what was her chapters 18 and 19. (The newest chapter in terms of sequential number is chapter 262, so yes, there's a lot more left)

I'm still confused... Can you just tell us how long it will take to get the conclusion of the system popping up? Seems like it'll take a while because not even the light novel knows? I'm so confused.

We were mistaken and the web novel has already completed this arc in full. Just ignore what was said before about it being incomplete. Sorry for the confusion and the web novel notes page will be updated. The next chapter will continue where this one leaves off.

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joined Jan 19, 2017

For anyone else who didn't know what the author meant by genderbender yuri vs pure yuri and was a bit confusion like me(looked it up):

seems like a lot of 'GB-yuri' stuff is basicly man in female-body doing ecchi/haremy yuri stuff, aimed at straight-man and their fantasies. Basicly a traditional straight story, but MC has female body

edit: I think I got it right, can be wrong tho

I'm admittedly not an expert nor do I read that genre but yes, that is essentially what gender bender/gender swap yuri is. Despite "yuri" being in the name, the character who turned into a girl or occupies a girl's body is still very much male. They experienced life as a man first, somehow turned into a girl physically, and still think of themselves as being male and are treated that way (when others know about it).

There is potential for interesting explorations of gender and increasing empathy towards a radically different set of life experiences, but I don't know how often that plays out in practice. Very little, I suspect.

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joined Jan 19, 2017

I mean, other people can do whatever they would like. That novelupdate request has been sitting there for a month for example and anyone could have felt free to pick it up on that site.

As for updates, they will happen when other projects are done and life allows. There'll be 1.5 chapters before another hiatus.

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joined Jan 19, 2017

The series has not been dropped.

riverFlower Uploader
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Really hoping for a perspective from the guys. The current progression is delicious.

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Been thinking about what's currently been shown. It seems likely that Nanami and Fukunaga were in a relationship longer or at least knew each other longer. That's what the "university junior" seems to imply, unless in Japan you call each other that even when neither were in college at the time of meeting and they just happened to go to the same university. That's highly possible actually.

Fukunaga and Hiroki are almost guaranteed to not have relations with each other because they stay out of each other's way.

I wonder if that throwaway line about not making concessions until everyone is satisfied in ch1 is going to be relevant. It feels like it might be.

Not really enough info to make extended theories yet. Have just barely started getting to know the characters. I'm very excited for more though. I feel the drama in the air and the way Akiyama Haru is bending expectations to play with the portrayals of who each character is.

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Not sure but this thought always craving in my mind when I saw adult life or cheating and het tags in yuri manga :
Pretty sure, this seems likely how yuri (les and more like bi) born irl, huh... Like, pure yuri in real life doesn't exist. Yada yada.

I don't compain about the story, I even think that this situation is the most logic yuri can happen irl (usualy from unsatisfaction, uncertainity, emptiness, trauma from characters) but, my heart can't invest on it either coz, sheesh, thats kinda suck and depressing...

LGBTQ matters don't "logically" happen the most because of trauma or unsatisfaction in real life.

Don't ever equate a biased sample of manga with real life. Yuri is not real life. It is a genre convention with tropes both wholesome and not. Which gets to a larger point of don't ever blindly equate fiction with real life. If you want to know how real lesbians or bisexuals find out about things or live their lives, then go read their interviews and stories and you know, talk to real people.

u dont get my point. also i don't comment for arguing. coz u just repeating what i said that yuri doesn't exist irl, only using ur own word. of course i can distinguish the fiction and rl, thats why i said "likely". u can read my guy? don't just get randomly insulted for no reason.

i have that thought because i already have watch some real life stories and they have that phase before they turn into les. for example, mostly they have het relationship before and coz of one of reasons i said before they turn into les. of course it dont have to be exact like this story, especially on the cheating part, which is why i said "likely" once again, u dummy. if u don't like i use my phrasing just use whatever words u like. ALSO, i dont say anything about lgbt coz i dont include male gay (or even male bi) and trans can have different reasons. u the one who bring that up.

one thing is that if u have experience that really opposite of what im saying, u can tell me something to proof me wrong. for example, if u born right away and become les, that way u can have a good argument if u real people yourself.

if u are a dude, than dont bother reply coz ur argument would not count, as i said before that i talked about likely yuri.

Let me preface by saying that I am not trying to have an argument, and also that I don't agree with the conclusion that in real life, most lesbians/bisexuals "turn" lesbian/bisexual. I had a feeling it might also be a case that a couple articles and documentaries would give that impression, but anyway yes, my view is that simple: people are born with a certain capacity for sexuality and then they uncover what they actually are over time. They do not become that way through trauma. Neither does being in a het relationship mean that they were het and then suddenly became lesbian/bi once they caught feelings for a female or were in a relationship with one.

That's all. I don't think it's factually incorrect to say that you don't have exposure with multiple sources of real life data, namely lesbian/bi people you know personally/intimately or have directly heard their views of themselves from, such as through LGBTQ organizations or research surveys or similar. Well, here's one data point for you. Hope you find more. I have to keep staying updated too as times change.

riverFlower Uploader
The Golden Orchid
joined Jan 19, 2017

Not sure but this thought always craving in my mind when I saw adult life or cheating and het tags in yuri manga :
Pretty sure, this seems likely how yuri (les and more like bi) born irl, huh... Like, pure yuri in real life doesn't exist. Yada yada.

I don't compain about the story, I even think that this situation is the most logic yuri can happen irl (usualy from unsatisfaction, uncertainity, emptiness, trauma from characters) but, my heart can't invest on it either coz, sheesh, thats kinda suck and depressing...

LGBTQ matters don't "logically" happen the most because of trauma or unsatisfaction in real life.

Don't ever equate a biased sample of manga with real life. Yuri is not real life. It is a genre convention with tropes both wholesome and not. Which gets to a larger point of don't ever blindly equate fiction with real life. If you want to know how real lesbians or bisexuals find out about things or live their lives, then go read their interviews and stories and you know, talk to real people.

riverFlower Uploader
The Golden Orchid
joined Jan 19, 2017

This is going to be a really painful ride, and while it doesn't feel like anyone will end up happy here unlike in Octave, maybe that'll change.

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Of note is that this was used for an exclusive memo in the Chinese server of Magia Record.

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Regardless if you use Google translate or Deepl, 50% is an extremely generous evaluation of MTL accuracy.

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riverFlower Uploader
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Lovely sex scene. Funny how the immersion of it was a sharp contrast to Haru trying to pleasure Hii-chan and failing. Felt pretty realistic.

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That's so weird that it's gone. There might be a way to look up the original thread through a 4chan mirror but I'm pretty clueless on how to do that.

Found some stuff after searching around. Will update if there's more.
English TL of Husky/Medley's earliest random 2ch update: https://web.archive.org/web/20130429223646/http://chanarchive.org/4chan/u/25032/random-hasumedo-update
Traditional Chinese translation of things up through 2016 and maybe 2018: https://husmedgojitudann.blogspot.com/
Weibo of that Traditional Chinese TL group: https://weibo.com/u/5185989941

last edited at Mar 17, 2022 4:09AM

riverFlower Uploader
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It will not be paywalled next chapter. That starts in three chapters.

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Ch1 and ch5 were lovely. They were, respectively, great showcases of two women being absolutely committed to each other and a reminder of the society that they have to deal with regardless. Ch6 was adorable for how they've started doing what they can together for each other.

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Yeah I didn't have time to write up notes this week, but it's clear there's a Wizard of Oz connection between all the references, not just the story Elsa tells. Elsa's last name is "Dorothy," the kingdom's name is Aosi in Chinese, which while we have rendered as "Aus[land]", we mostly did so to avoid the more common rendition of it as "Oz." I don't really know where Chise was going with this, though, since at least plot-wise, I haven't seen any similarities at all.

Isn't it just a nudge-nudge-wink-wink reference to an iconic piece of gay symbology?

I'm not really sure how well known the Wizard of Oz is in China for being a gay symbol, but it could be thought of as one of the first modern isekais. Also notable is that the bedtime story Elsa tells is only an Oz reference in the manhua. It's not an Oz reference in the webnovel.

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Brilliant twist and they certainly deserve each other. I'm fascinated at how enraptured Shiratori was by her own face. The fact that she would call it love hits hard in such a twisted way.

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joined Jan 19, 2017

Classic not knowing what to call the feeling and still just being friends. That poison and rust analogy though. Got to love that. Must be why Sawara randomly got the soda. Neat synthesis of ideas with Sawara feeling love was a poison while Ayako felt that far from rusting her heart, love made her feel more alive.

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As always, thank you, Silver Garden. I was pretty worried in the direction it was taking Yachiyo but everything was right in the end. The timeline set up with this happening after ch4 and leading into MHT was interesting but worked well.