Okay, another crappy not-translation on the gist of things before halmoni comes and saves the day.

(that's Hee-Jin sleeping in the back)

N: Seems she's tired. These days she's doing an internship at her sunbae's architectural firm. You're okay driving?
S: It's alright, I like driving.
S (thought): I forgot the two of them are from the same hometown

N: Mom I'm home!
Mom: Our maknae (youngest child) is here!
Sis in law: It's been a while~
Nephew: Auntie~!

Heejin: Ahjumma! I came too!
N: Has our Dong-hwa been well?

Seol-a shows up, mom goes "oh you came too, you got prettier!"
S: Thank you.
Heejin: Ahjumma, what about me? What about me? What about me? (lol)
Mom: annoyed You're very pretty too

N: What about dad and bro?
Mom: They're gonna buy meat and come later. Heejin, did you call home yet?
H: Hey, it's okay, I'll just do it tomorrow~
Mom: You tiresome(?) girl. Bad!
H: lol

Dad: Eat a lot~
S: He could be an actor...

Seol-a looks in closet... "Guitar?"
Norae making a phone call to Heejin, who left because No-rae's mom called Hee-jin's family lol.

S: Ah, btw, your closet...
N: Closet? You want to know the secrets of my fashion sense?
S: What...

S: That's a guitar right? Is it yours?
N: Guitar? Ah, yeah it's mine.
S: You know how to play?
N: Just a lil

N: Long time ago Miseon unni taught me
S: Really? Unni knows how to play guitar too?
N: Miseon unni was in a band in high school.
S: Wow...

N: Should I show you my playing?
S: Yeah! Show me!
N: But I'm not that good. I haven't played for a while. Don't expect too much;
S: Ok!

S: What are you doing? Tuning?
N: Yeah.. I guess it's been put away for too long.

N: Done.

(song in english) (edit: thatanon ID'd it as More Than Words by Westlife. EDIT2: panchan points out that the original is actually by a band called Extreme)

N: Aigoo how embarassing... it's just so-so huh?

I yelled at the hand scene. FML.

N: Seol-a? Are you ok?
S:......

S: I'm gonna go get some fresh air.

And yea, dugeun dugeun is doki doki.

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anonymous

Now, if FF really does go with a "traditional" direct confession, well, I wouldn't be disappointed or "angry" or anything. OK, maybe slightly disappointed. :3

Oh, for sure, if a confession went something like this:

*zoomed out panel of 2 girls standing facing each other, probably somewhere scenic and isolated*
*dramatic breeze starts blowing*
"I... like you, ______."
*close up panel of other girl's rxn face* (shocked, then starts blushing/smiling/tearing up or some combo of the 3)
"I like you too!"
*they kiss, are gfs now*

I'd be pretty disappointed too haha (though I'm pretty sure ssamba won't do that). But I would like to see some sort of open acknowledgement of their mutual feelings, it could be something as overt as Seol-a just going "Would you like to go out with me?" (i feel like it's within the realm of possibility for her to do something like this), or a little more subtle like one inviting the other to some event/activity typically reserved for couples (idk like a school dance?).

I don't think it necessarily needs to trigger a big change in the way they act around each other, because yeah, that would be unnatural (and also because they're 90% of the way to acting like gfs already tbh), but it would be nice to make sure they're both on the same page. Every relationship has expectations and if it's not even established whether the relationship is platonic/romantic then there's the risk of a mismatch in said expectations and someone getting hurt. I suppose developing that "unsaid awareness" of mutual attraction is something that can and does happen, but speaking as someone with the social/emotional perceptiveness of a rock, a little communication also helps!

sandwichbread

Wow, this thread moves really fast. -_-'

Yeah, I think that each week between updates, there's roughly 10 new pages of discussion generated, a.k.a. ~250 posts. It's pretty impressive!

About the call, yup, the ski trip (Friday through Sunday) overlaps with the Saturday date. So either Seol-a canceled or maybe she forgot about it (and stood someone up lol).

Anyways, I'm excited for the new chapter + impending awkwardness too. See you all on the flipside!

Just out of curiosity, who do you all want to confess first? (Maybe I'll put this up as a poll, but probably not now since there's a chapter dropping soon)

• A: No-rae
• B: Seol-a
• C: Both - Simultaneous confessions ftw, coincidental timing be damned
• D: Neither - Who needs confessions? They should jump straight to kissing
• E: Neither - Frustrated feelings forever <3

Thanks anonymous!

mezmerize:

[...] for example, Norae's Prejuices on Seola's [...]

O_x

*slow clap* that was truly skilled use of [...] selective quoting [...]. I almost did a spit-take (and then I had to go fish my mind out of the gutter...)

ffins07

We've read chapters wherein Seol-a is being a petulant daughter or sister with her fam. Then No-rae calls or she starts thinking of her and goes into "whipped" mode.

Amen :) lol

Anyways, I pretty much agree with everything ffins07 just said (seriously, can I borrow some of your meta analysis/writing skills?) Parallels are awesome and I really liked the hands one that YamaChan & ieeheh pointed out -- such a great contrast! -- but it's also easy to get carried away with parallels (i.e. start making the character fit the parallel instead of the other way around). For the P&P comparisons, I feel like it's the opposite, I think No-rae's lack of prejudice was what drew Seol-a to her in the first place.

last edited at Feb 9, 2016 10:57PM

Again, disclaimer that my Korean is probably kindergarten level or less, and I'm especially useless when it comes to slang and idioms... but here's my guesswork process from blindly stumbling through Korean google results. Maybe halmoni can confirm/deny?

So the Korean text from the original comic is "혹은 돈x랄" (at least I think? I can barely make out ssamba's handwriting). I was getting confused because 돈 means money but I had no idea what 랄 meant, and it wasn't turning up any dictionary results. But 돈x랄, and alternatively 돈g랄, kept showing up as a hashtag on instagram. Cue wildcard search, I think the x is actually censoring the middle syllable and the word is 돈지랄. I don't know if this is considered a bad word or something and that's why it's censored? As for the meaning, it seems like it has something to do with spending money like crazy? (for example, some of the google image results for 돈지랄 show people sitting in bathtubs full of cash)

So going back to the comic, the gist is probably something like Seol-a's 50 obsessions come with the punishment that she's losing a TON of $$$$ lol.

last edited at Feb 9, 2016 2:17AM

I'll just post it here, if there is a typeset already then I'll take this back down.

Typeset of this special chapter (Q&A + 50 Shades of Grey parody)

Chapter 28.5 Special Edition 1
http://postimg.org/image/ia7vszbj7/

Edit: added credits and author's note + cleaned some stuff up. also fixed chapter # (thanks anon!)

last edited at Feb 9, 2016 2:50PM

On FF's comico page it officially says the comic updates on Mondays (but yeah it does go up a little earlier sometimes). I'm not really getting my hopes up for something special next week, it would probably make more sense for something to happen when it's Valentine's day in the storyverse itself?

Also, ieeheh, i think that chapter was typeset actually ^^;; search for "Special Edition Chapter 2" on the imgur album! However, there is one special chapter that isn't in the imgur album (the 50 shades of grey parody), I'm not sure if that ever got typeset... if it hasn't, I actually did a rough one a while back if people are interested.

last edited at Feb 9, 2016 1:02AM

LMAO my timing really sucks. Thanks halmoni as always! *goes off to read*

some more random tidbits to tide people over until the proper translation comes out. this isn't an actual translation, it's just the gist of (some of) the scenes. again, take with a grain of salt due to my crap korean skills! also sorry for the terrible formatting, i just typed this up really fast

-in the beginning enah is laughing at seola for taking a tumble because she had previously bragged about being good at snowboarding

enah: where's norae?
seola: she went out to buy some pain relief
e: i thought you said you weren't hurt? i have some pain relief patches
s: the stick-on patches give me a rash so no-rae went to buy the spray-on kind
e: omo, you're quite troublesome(?) lol. did no-rae give you a piggyback ride to here?
s: no, how could she?
e: true. if she piggybacked you she'd probably collapse. looks like you have a conscience(?) after all?
s: hahaha (can't deny it)

-the last face enah makes at the end is her going "what, looks like the two of them fine after all" :)

-no-rae asks why seol-a is using pain relief if she's not really hurt, seol-a says it really doesn't hurt, it's just that her leg isn't in the best condition due to a car accident. also mentions she used to dance.
-no-rae: "you had an accident?" seol-a reassures her that it was a long time ago and doesn't bother her anymore. "should i show you my dancing? i was really good at it!" lmao

seol-a: i'm gonna rest a little and go snowboarding again later
no-rae: what? no!
s: but we're leaving tomorrow...
n: we can just come here again some other time! for today just stay here!
s: and do what?
n: uh... watch a movie?
s: there's a ski slope right next to us but you're saying let's watch a movie?
n: still....

seol-a goes to take a shower and tells no-rae to pick a movie.

-they're watching pride and prejudice, seol-a asks no-rae what her fave scene was (she says the scene where they dance together), no-rae asks what about you, and seol-a is all "mine is definitely this scene..." and starts acting out the "your hands are cold" scene (aaaa)

-no-rae tells seol-a the phone call is from her brother, he asked her to visit home briefly before school starts
s: when are you gonna go?
n: part-time job's over and i don't really have anything else to do... so this week. wanna come?
s: hm?
n: to our house.
s: ok.
n: huh? (just like that?)
s: i'll go. because your mom said to come over again last time.
s: i'm gonna sleep, you should sleep soon too
n: ok... good night

unfortunately i don't understand what no-rae's last thought bubble says :(

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EDIT: What I really think is happening with FF though is Ssamba is now wondering how to avoid showing them have sex. If she can avoid the kiss for longer then she can avoid the fact that sex is probably one of the things Seol-a would want pretty soon.

I always had the feeling Ssamba was little hesitant of drawing a sex scene. Or maybe it's the fact that the manhwa is not M-Rated and she tries to keep it appropriate for younger ages.
I don't think we will get one to be honest. Probably just kisses and maybe only the beggining of the scene when they start, without actually showing it.

I agree, I think the far she could go is showing they are having sex but without showing their intimate parts. It could be a small scene. I hope she can do that at least (point out that they are about to have sex). I want them to have sexy times too, apart from sex haha.

Yeah, I don't think ssamba will go there, but I'm totally fine with that. It's kind of like what xl was saying earlier about being poker-faced reading explicit yuri but flipping shit about an almost-kiss in FF, I don't think this story would lose anything from staying SFW (though I hope that they at least get up to sex implied, because No-rae and Seol-a are both grown-ass women c'mon). Honestly I feel like M-rated scenes would just feel really out of place, plus it's good that this series accessible to younger readers. For those who want it, that's what fanart is for (have you guys seen the last row of the FF images page?) :P

Or maybe I'm just a prude lol. When I'm OTPing hard, fluff does a lot more for me than porn...

last edited at Feb 7, 2016 12:38PM

Maybe the extra bedding will be in the wash. ;)

Haha maybe Dong-hwa (the little nephew) will spill something on the bedding and that'll be his contribution to the plot :P

"*exaggerated sigh* looks like we've got no choice but to share your bed!"

I wonder if No-rae's sister will finally make an appearance?

last edited at Feb 7, 2016 11:46AM

MacySan

No-Rae is acting so chill after the almost kiss it's so funny. She has to play poker or something

My thoughts exactly haha.
(currently backreading the last batch of posts, I love reading everyone's reactions lol)

ffins07

P.S. Love Jane Austen, especially Pride and Prejudice, but can't place a quote for my life. (== _ == )_

haha, well for me I don't know my Austen, but figured that there was a reason that part was randomly in English :P

last edited at Feb 7, 2016 10:41AM

btw the "your hands are cold" bit is a reference to pride and prejudice, no-rae mentioned jane austen right before that

Also I really wanna know what on earth the dialogue is between them after the almost-kiss. It kind of looks like No-rae tries to joke about something and it fails and that's the reason Seol-a goes to bed.

No joke, the gist is that No-rae's brother called and told her to visit home briefly before school starts, and No-rae asked Seol-a if she wanted to come with. Seol-a said yes (because No-rae's mom told her to come again) and went to bed. I think No-rae was a little confused by Seol-a's lukewarm (surface) reaction, meanwhile Seol-a probably did it because she couldn't hide her blushing lmao

last edited at Feb 7, 2016 10:28AM

the new semester is already kicking my ass = i didn't have time to finish this up like i wanted to, but i figured i should just post what i have before the new chapter comes out and officially renders it non-canon. so here's another silly comic for those of you who are still awake. enjoy :)

I think that's what really bothers me bout these "convienent accidents". It'd be fine if they actally pushed the story along, but I always feel like it's 1 step forward, 2 steps back.

For me I was totally fine with the previous incidents. They served their purpose in making each person internally come to terms with their feelings/realize they're in love. And in that regard, there hasn't been any backsliding.

However, the next stage of the story is realizing that those feelings are mutual, and for that there's gotta be some COMMUNICATION. Which I still think will happen, but the snowboard accident resolution didn't use the angst/buildup from the previous chapters as effectively as it could have. I was hoping that things were building towards No-rae being more direct with Seol-a of her own initiative, which would have been a nice bit of character development for her.

Nya-chan

Truck-san is biding his time.

I don't know why this line is so funny to me but I laughed out loud.

Thinking again about bike incident with Seol-a, I realized it reminds me of the end of Mean Girls where Regina runs out and gets hit by a school bus :P

@ieeheh, we must be on the same wavelength because I sketched out a comic idea with almost the same plot as your fic lol. Though I'm going for a bit of a different tone...

The snowboard accident was a pretty convenient way to end the awkwardness/distance between the two, I think normally I would have been bothered by that but I was too busy being happy about the hug lol. I still need No-rae to actually talk with Seol-a though, rather than pretending that none of the earlier events of the trip happened. Hoping we see some of that in the next chapter.

Muchas gracias thatanon!

Last week ieeheh was starting a Seolrae religion, and now it sounds like anonymous is starting a Seolrae bootcamp lmao.

The fanart by chmartx is so cute, I really like their painting style. One semi-related thing I wanted to mention is that for the line "Want me to carry you?" I think the word used for carry more specifically refers to piggyback rides. Just putting that image out there... ^^

Just noticed Seol-a's blushing at this part. So cute...

anonymous

4th year?

Shouldn't No-rae be in her 3rd year? Assuming it's January, the semester that's about to start would be the 2nd half of her 3rd year.

Unless she started university in winter for some reason.

... Or unless it's using the Korean age of reckoning for university years lolo

My guess is that the study abroad/exchange program edit: oh wait the exchange program was Seol-a, and No-rae just took time off? (which she did after her 2nd year) counts as a year? Edit: after some backreading I think what ieeheh outlined below is correct. The only part that I'm confused about is that in the latest chapter No-rae says "It's already been 2 years" which doesn't seem consistent with the timeline?

Also, I was gonna congratulate you on your 1111th post but looks like I missed it :P

last edited at Jan 31, 2016 3:43PM

I think Sung-pyo meant how No-rae saying 'nothing's wrong' is sad in that there's nothing between them that really bothers her anymore, that their time together has gone and that she's moved on, hence 'nothing's wrong' about them just hanging out.

This was also the impression I got, but I wanted to double-check my Korean first before asking about it haha.

@Kinetik_09
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that AAVE was just a collection of phrases, I know it has its own grammar and everything but was trying not to go into too much detail (I was worried I was already getting too off-topic >__>). Didn't know about that second part though, thanks for the info.

last edited at Jan 31, 2016 12:07PM

Holy crap, thanks for the lightning-fast translation halmoni. I hope you got some sleep...

Don't have any organized thoughts at the moment, but this chapter made me really happy. Go get your girl No-rae! And I love how Prez Yoon teases our girls, laughed out loud at No-rae falling out of bed in surprise.

ieeheh

You mean... Did No-rae always have a pretty friend like that? Haha jk

Surprise last-minute het: Sung-pyo/Seol-a

last edited at Jan 31, 2016 11:47AM

Yup, Nezchan beat me to it. A lot of AAVE phrases/vocab have made their way into more mainstream usage without people realizing the origin (i.e. stuff like "throwing shade"/"slay"/"____ gives me life"), and based on where I have seen "you do you" used I kind of assumed it fell into the same category. But who knows, it's basically impossible to google (all I got was some asinine article about millenials) and it's not like anyone officially tracks this type of thing ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Anyways, going back to the original point, if this is the case, then English speakers from outside the US might find that phrase unclear/confusing, which is too bad since the meaning seems to fit quite nicely. As for whether translations should avoid phrases that are specific to American English, that's a different issue.

...it seems I keep inadvertently derailing this thread from being about FF so I'll shut up now!

SPOILER ALERT!! Enah was actually Sung-pyo in a mask the whole time :O

Half a day until the new chapter's out...

takachi

Besides every time the verb "do" uses an animate direct object, I tend to get a completely different meaning, as in "doing someone" *__*

LMAO. I can see how that must have been confusing...

ffins07

I think "you do you" has its origins in AAVE so it's possible that the phrase is specific to the US, maybe that's why some people are confused by it? That's just my guess though since I don't know where you all are from :P I'm not a linguist.

If ignoring how likely it is that a given reader will understand it (in my personal experience it isn't a very common phrase though I at least know what it means), then I agree that out of the suggestions so far, "you do you" does seem like the best fit.

last edited at Jan 30, 2016 6:00PM

Literally it says "You do it your way", or "You do it however you want to do it", which more or less implies "Whatever"/"Suit yourself"/"Have it your way"/etc. It doesn't necessarily say anything about Seol-a's actions in particular, she's commenting on No-rae's actions in a sort of sarcastic/"I give up" manner. 네 (you) =/= 내 (me), although they're homophones in written speech (but not in common spoken speech).

네/내 is exactly where I got tripped up -__- Thanks for the explanation halmoni, I learned something new today. (dumb mistakes like this are the reason why I have to ask my mom to proofread before I send anything to my own halmoni)

At least I wasn't too far off in thinking that the tone of what Seol-a said was what bothered No-rae?

@anonymous

It's very well done. Nice job.
Look forward to more works from you, if you ever get inspired again. :3

Thanks! It's good to know that it wasn't only funny in my head (which is usually the case). I might doodle more stuff if the story doesn't take a happy turn soon. As a totally real wise person once said, "Be the fluff you want to see in the world FF" :)