this is awesome... I can't stop laughing about it XD

while this story was somehow nice and cute, I wished the player-girl would have been stabbed at the end by a couple of her "ex-es"....

How do I do IF I can't read english? Plus the chapter is so long! T_T

Do you treat the rest of this website as a picture book? I mean.... 99,999% of all Manga here have English texts....

I’m done with all the people on this discussion.
You guys are trying to justify pedophilia, FICTIONAL OR NOT.

That's actually a smart decision. Since you're not actually interested in a discussion, just like to blame your nonsense on others and runt about shit you have no clue about it's probably for the best to just f... off...

Some people also might not like having child pornography in their search engine profiles. Like I have said repeatedly there is no logical argument as to why the title cannot be changed to make it clearer and decrease the odds of a miss-click. It will take literally like 4 minutes of somebody's time to fix this. That is the only down side. The simple fact is a large number of people are miss-clicking on this thinking it is something that it is not. There is absolutely no real reason not to fix it with a simple title change.

If you don't like having CP in your search engine profile here are a few tips for you:
1. stop googeling for child pornographie
2. learn how to use a god damn browser the right way...

also: dumbing down the title does not make people read it.

Maybe if people actually bother to read title and tags of work they are about to read then there wouldn't be even a need to complain about it in comments section and staff wouldn't need to spend their time fixing something that isn't a issue.

People reading signs? In what world are you living? It's sooo much easier to ignore them and rant about them later....

I’m sure you also had some very fine people on both sides. If only there were a tag or something that told you what kind of content you were in for so you wouldn’t accidentally read something you fundamentally disagree with.
Maybe we should change those to 70pt font I feel this would decrease click through almost entirely.

From everyday experience I can tell you that no matter how big the sign people won't read it and complain about it. Even IF you start slapping them with the sign right across the face...

I really really hoped that the storyline for these two would have stayed away from this.

As far as I understand this is some (arguably bad) drawing done by the author which does not actually have anything to do with the storyline.

By its very definition, child porn is abuse, since no child is in age to give consent. All child porn is wrong because it portrays children having sex before they can give consent. Again, sorry to call your fetish or whatever by its name, but having a little kid portrayed having sex IS child porn, regardless of how you feel about it.

That might be right, but it lacks the definition what a child actually is. Doing a quick search about the age of consent, it ranges from 12 to 19 with some countries even having the addition "only when married". Meaning CP in your country could be illegal because the girl/boy is 16 and in some other countries it's perfectly legal. So in RL there is hardly any consent about the age of consent. And you expect a fictional world where cat/human hybrids life to follow the same rules?

The reason why people enjoy playing violent videogames like GTA is because they're not actually hurting anybody, they're just enjoying an unrealistic power fantasy.

But this manga shows a realistic depiction of pedophilia. If you enjoy reading this kind of stuff, or, God forbid, if you we're aroused by this, how are you not a pedophile?

I really don't get this... So killing realistic people with weapons I can buy in a shop around the corner with blood, screaming, panic and everything there is to it, maybe choosing a school as a setting is perfectly fine, because you won't hurt someone because it's just fiction. On the other hand a drawing - no, actually just some black lines on a white background - most of the time without any colour whatsoever - depicting a cat/human hybrid shows a realistic depiction of CP and therefore everyone enjoying it has to be a paedophile.

Sry to say this, but this is just BS and doesn't make any sense whatsoever...
(oh an btw I did not enjoy reading this. On the one hand I don't have the impression this is fitting for the characters in the work and on the other hand the art was crap)

Guys, this is pedophilia. That there's no men involved doesn't mean it's okay.

It would be, if we had any kind of indication, that the age of consent IN STORY was higher than Mels age. Otherwise It's not.

I'm gonna burn in hell for reading this now.

Don't be sad. Per definition everyone it going to hell anyways. The difference is just if your going like everyone else or if you'd take the employees door...

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Think of all the emotionally ruined 8 year anime girls who had someone jack off to them. We should start a support group or something for all these drawings hurt by being jerked off to.

Also can all you non-murderers stop playing my FPS MMOs? You’re ruining my immersion and enjoyment since it is meant to be all murderers.

Press [F] to pay respect...

To all the people defending this with the “it’s fictional so it’s ok” Itou Hachi is perfectly allowed to draw this kind of stuff since it is fiction. What’s really sick and twisted is that people are not just reading it but enjoying it and there even might be people who are masturbating to this stuff. Just the possibility of that being true sickens me to no end.Like seriously take a step back and think about it, you guys are defending child porn, fictional or not. And before anyone says “I’m not a pedophile I would never think about having se with a real child” THEN WHY TF ARE YOU READING THIS?
And I thought ppl on this site were better than those sick male otakus who have wet dreams about fucking their favorite 8 year old anime girl

Maybe you should stop imagine people you don't know masturbation to some (badly) drawn lines? Just saying....

Now excuse me, since I've played some CS before, I sadly have to murder a few dozend people...

I've now "read" it a couple of times and I can't help the feeling like I'm looking at badly drawn fanart. Either that or Itou Hachi has started drawing while taking a crap. This hardly looks like the characters in the other work at all. cO

Realy? Touhou Project... a world full of magic, demons, gods, magic and anything in between.... and people ask how two girls can make a baby? ;)

I somehow find it interesting if people try to put rl measurements on fictional artworks...

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I've only read the first chapter so far, but this extremely reminds me of Non Non Biyori. Setting, characters, character looks... even the title... is this somehow related?

I mean who noticed that on Nozomi's veil, there are many stars but only one moon? And the reason for that is the silhouettes of buildings along the hem that make it a cityscape at night.

Me actually. But yeah you're right. The amount of details on this is amazing. The more you look, the more details you see.

lol, no. Nonsense was keeping making points already made in a previous thread. You can have your different opinion just fine, I'm just done trying to explain things that I've already explained and which were ignored, which was what that post was doing before.

Well, since nezchan forbade all discussion on the other thread not being on topic with whatever I think switching over here including your arguments would actually be a good idea. This way you won't have to look up arguments in another thread for as long as the mods don't delete them. On the other hand, if no one is interested in this discussion I guess we have to wait until the day hidden tags will be implemented - whatever year that will be - and people who don't like to read stories with certain tags should just avoid dynasty altogether.

Enough, already. Morgan, I deleted your post and will continue to delete any post from anyone that keeps dragging up the tag issue in this discussion.

This is not the place for it. You're already discussing it over in the other thread, there's absolutely no excuse to bring it back here again, especially when you've already been clearly told to knock it off.

„Discussing it“? With whom if I may ask - if that won‘t go against your policy oh mighty nezchan-sama. With someone who thinks warning people is nonsense and just blocks of any discussion? With an uncounted amount of invisible people?

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EDIT: Nevermind, I'm not wasting more time with this nonsense.

So having an opinion different from yours is nonsense? Or is it nonsense that people who have serious trouble with some stories they like to avoid be warned because you can't be spoiled in the slightest? Which would bring me back to the mentinoed problem about having tags in the first place...

For everyone else:

(Please excuse my PS skills....)

Yes. The "hidden-tag"-tag will give away that something will happen in the story, not disclosed by the tags, BUT you as a reader will have no idea when or what will happen. Try guessing what the plot twist may be. I'm sure I can come up with more plot twists then you'll guess.

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That'd wrap back on a point already made in the other thread: such a tag would be a spoiler for the fact that the story has some kind of big reveal or twist. Again, YMMV on how relevant that is.

Excuse me, but when even a generig tag giving just the indication that literally ANY other tag is hidden for story reasons can't be placed because of being itself a spoiler - which is the whole point of being a marker tag - where do you draw a line with this? Following this argument the first story spoiling tag that dynasty would have to get rid of is the "yuri"-tag. While I do not think someone on dynasty will be triggered by yuri, the side does feature het, yaoi and bisexual. All of them spoil a massive part of the plot of nearly every story on this side.

The point remains: does it hurt someone knowing there may be a plot twist wicht could be absolutly anything? Anything you don't know before you've read the whole story? Does it hurt more than people not being able to enjoy reading anything on dynasty? More then people getting triggered by anexity and panic attacks because someone decided to not give a warning so those people, those users can avoid reading those stories? I don't think so.

Until the system gets implemented, would it be an option to tag a story with some kind of "trigger tag"? Like literally call it something generic ("Trigger-tag", "Attention-tag", "Hodor-tag", "Nezchan-tag", "Morgan-tag"... - you get the gist of it ). Sure, that would give a reader the impression something will happen in the story and kinda be a minor spoiler in itself. But you won't actually know what happens (incest, rape, whatever) until you've read the story. On the other hand people how like to avoid certain tags would also know something is fishy about the story and could potentially avoid it or check the comments first to see if they like it and/or read at their own risk. Additionally informing people about the new "trigger tag" could be done with the info-system of the page itself. (You know, the blue text informing about thread in the forum or something.)

The problem is that triggers vary widely from one person to another. Like I mentioned at some point, rape is a panic attack trigger for me, but so is sex with robots (for reasons I explained in the marionette discussion). Therefore I avoid works with both the NSFW and Robot tags. Suppose a nsfw story has a major plot twist at the end which involves revealing a protagonist is a robot. Nobody would have thought of that as a potentially triggering situation, worthy of a "Trigger-tag", even though it is so for me. Likewise, seemingly innocent themes might turn out to be triggers for other people. Sure, some triggers are more common than others, like "rape" or "bestiality", but drpepperfan made clear that those more serious ones would always be tagged, regardless of spoilers.

In essence, I don't think a trigger-tag would work to prevent anxiety or panic any more than we do with the current tag system. It would surely work on the Marionette case, but would it be applicable elsewhere?

I think it actually would if it would be used whenever a regular tag won't be used because it would for whatever reason spoil the plot. It doesn't matter WHAT tag was actually not placed for story reasons, it just signalises THAT a tag was not placed.

Take the robot-tag for example.
Let's say a robot sex story would be added and for whatever reason the robot-tag won't be used because one of the characters being a robot is a story spoiler. In the current system you won't have any idea it's about robots. You may see the nsfw tag and read the story up to the point where there are sudenly robots and you get triggered. Now imagine the same situation with a trigger tag: sure, you won't know it is actually about robots, but you would at least know, that a tag was deliberately left out for spoiler reasons and you could avoid the story.

Arc is right, The blacklist function already exists. Stuff with those tags still show up in search.

This doesn't actually solve the spoiler tag dilemma, since the work has to be tagged with the actual spoilery tag in order for blacklist to work, so I too may be misunderstanding your request.

Sry my bad. I've meant kind of both in the same suggestion which is kinda poorly formulated.

But sitting back for a while and thinking about the whole spoiler thing again I've though of the following:

Until the system gets implemented, would it be an option to tag a story with some kind of "trigger tag"? Like literally call it something generic ("Trigger-tag", "Attention-tag", "Hodor-tag", "Nezchan-tag", "Morgan-tag"... - you get the gist of it ). Sure, that would give a reader the impression something will happen in the story and kinda be a minor spoiler in itself. But you won't actually know what happens (incest, rape, whatever) until you've read the story. On the other hand people how like to avoid certain tags would also know something is fishy about the story and could potentially avoid it or check the comments first to see if they like it and/or read at their own risk. Additionally informing people about the new "trigger tag" could be done with the info-system of the page itself. (You know, the blue text informing about thread in the forum or something.)

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btw: if some mysterious day a system of "hidden tags" is implemented: could we maybe get a blacklist for tags so blacklisted tags ain't shown on the frontpage at all?

This bit could stand being repeated over here, if you're willing to do the honours.

Done.
But I DO think I've already added it some time ago. Like 1 or 2 years...

regarding the discussion in this thread:
https://dynasty-scans.com/forum/topics/14061-marionette-discussion

It was mentioned that some day a system with hidden tags will be implemented (as I understand like the blackout spoiler tags in text). My suggestion would be to add some form of blacklist to dynasty where you'd add some author or tag to a blacklist and works containing said addition would vanish for you from the front side and only be shown if you'd actually search for them.

Morgan, leave it be. Site policy and the ability to hide tags has already been confirmed, and unless there's some change there's little point in beating that horse. dpf has already confirmed that things like rape and the more blatant triggers are already tagged as a matter of course.

In any case, there is zero point in continuing this discussion after everyone has said their piece multiple times and policy has been confirmed by the person who administers it, again multiple times. So can we all refocus the discussion on the actual story at hand, please?

Yeah yeah i get it. People discussing, mods stopping, staff doing whatever... same old same old...

I mean, it's not like I don't get the point of story spoilers, but in comparison it's the lesser evil of the two...

If you cannot trust the site or the author, you are absolutely free to not read either. Although the option of reading the discussion before you read the story is open to you as well, which will usually point out things that are not tagged.

Yeah... most of the series I used to read won't get updated over here anyway despite having multiple new chapters requested for upload...but yeah.. whatever...

btw: if some mysterious day a system of "hidden tags" is implemented: could we maybe get a blacklist for tags so blacklisted tags ain't shown on the frontpage at all?

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Yes it's an exaggeration. But the point in this discussion is: Do you as a mod/admin/staff/whatever favour hiding tags because it could potentially be a story spoiler? If so, there is no way for me as a reader to trust any posted story on this side just because before reading it I have no way of knowing if this story has a tag I as a reader want to avoid.

So for me the first conclusion at hand would be to never ever read a story by this author again knowing that there is a possibility their story might include a tag I personally don't like very much to say at the least and knowing there might be the possibility that certain tag is deliberately hidden because of story reasons.

Unless some kind of way to add spoiler tags to the site is added at some point, there will be no plans to tag any works with tag's that would severely ruin the plot for those reading. Certain works on the site have plot twists or endings harmed by tagging everything 100%, and for the sake of keeping the experience of reading these works as the author intended, we will not tag these. End of. This endless argument is not going to help, sorry.

Which essentially means people who don't want to be surprised be preschool girls being raped by big fat old men should avoid dynasty altogether, since there is no way of knowing how to avoid a story because someone decided it's better to piss off some people than to spoil others who wouldn't care about the tags in the first place.

Now that seems like a good plan to get rid of your viewers...

More like they borrowed Rensouhou

actually, looking at the battery compartment at the bottom and the clock in the front I'd say that's a Rensouhou-alarm-clock...

That would beat the purpose of the hidden tags, which is for people to avoid spoilers, if every time I read something at dynasty I have to go through all the spoilers beforehand..

There could be an "always show these tags:" field in configurations, so that specific tags wouldn't be hidden or blackened out. But that's probably a lot of work to implement, and I'm not sure if the dynasty team would agree to do it. Plus, there's still the problem of the presence of spoiler tags being a spoiler in itself.

So the options are either: Spoil people who don't care for certain tags or disgust other people who like to avoid those tags.

Personally I'd vote for the first option.