I'm sorry I don't really see where you're getting at. How is it cliché? What is it supposed to imply?
Are you guys saying she might be lying about her life? Why would she?

I think people just yuri goggled her personal life.

I get the feeling all of the kissing and seks happens "off screen" so to speak. There is no possible way they have been "dating" as long as they have and nothing has happened.

To the person who says they dont believe asexuality exists, there are many people in this world who identify as asexuals. It is pretty arrogant to say their identity isnt a thing. It rings of homophobes and creepy men who have told me growing up that I "just havent found the right man yet." Please do not perpetuate this kind of erasure. Thanks.

i am curious what she meant by "relapse" though. Am I forgetting a plot point?

Didn't at some point she said she was giving up sex or relationships or something like that for a bit? Am I imagining that?

The taunting, so painful. Argh, subtext! Also lulz at Kyonne's yaoi comment.

Is her partner a woman?

I think so...
Belief based on one of her posts : http://ameblo.jp/yuricomic/entry-11924145543.html
And as she also gives her partner pen name in this post, if you check on Ameba, you should find out that her partner may have an account there too.

I cannot read that.

Thank you Sol Falling!

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The writing of this series is pretty god awful. I feel like the only reason I keep reading is because I don't get enough original yuri content in my manga diet, but holy crap, so ridiculously unbelievable.

Is her partner a woman?

Who is Takemiya-sensei's partner? She said they have been a mangaka for ten years!

I think Sacchan might be starting to have feelings for Ruki since she's worried about whether she is really good for her...
And I really like Maasa, she's sooo cool and serious ^///^

Do you think it is that she is starting to have feelings for Ruki or starting to feel bad for not having deeper feelings for Ruki?

To third fourth and fifth; asexuality is a thing and people who identify this way do not somehow live incomplete lives. That is merely their sexuality.

I am not asexual, but I have definitely fallen asleep during sex. Shrug It happens.

But I am liking these characters less and less as people as this story drags on, it is getting difficult to read. I commend the mangaka for, in many instances, fairly accurately portraying dysfunctional and unhappy relationships and people but damn, I need some hope in there somewhere!

I hope Meru and Masaa hook up. Meru could use someone unbending with very strict boundaries who does not give in to her histrionics. Someone who will hold her responsible for her actions without shaming her.

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She basically declares her sexuality in the end though by saying she is open to loving either a woman or man. Given her narrative, I would say she is bisexual.

I think, due to the fact that gay neighborhoods are still very much ghettoized and still very much infrequent, you do find a huge gap in socialization. It really isnt all that odd for queer people to associate/be friends with other queer people almost exclusively. I don't find stories lacking in male characters unrealistic at all. As a matter of fact, I find it refreshing. Men are the focal point of story telling in nearly every genre world wide. I am pretty thankful, as a queer woman, for yuri and gl. And stretch! I think part of what makes stretch so good is how intimate it feels, and I think part of that intimacy comes from focusing on their everyday relationship (sans rando men). <3

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This is an aside, but what does spitballing mean?

Why do you think there was such push back from readers?

I was under the impression most yuri/GL was written for men. Interesting to find it's written for girls. I wonder why there are more BL fans? I find this interesting, as I am from the west, and I think lesbian content seems more acceptable than gay male content here. Though, I could be mistaken, and it certainly changes from country to country.

So, I've noticed as I have been perusing various sites that there seems to be a heaping crap ton of yaoi scanlated into english vs yuri content (on some sites it outnumbers yuri 5 fold). Is this because there is actually less yuri content in existence than yaoi or is less of it making it to the internet? And if there actually is less yuri content on this here planet, why do you think that is?

Sorry if this question is inappropriate for the forums, but this phenomenon piqued my curiosity!

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Ah, I used to go to strip clubs fairly regularly when I lived in Houston, TX. It is pretty normalized activity there, everybody went to the strip clubs in groups after work. In that setting it was relaxed and fun. The strippers were friendly, conversational, and super attentive. They felt more like host clubs with naked boobs. In Florida (where I live now) the women get totally naked (they aren't allowed in Texas) and I think that changes the dynamics quite a bit. I also think people in Miami are less friendly in general, which probably also contributes to the environment.

Pretty sure Ran knows a lot about Keiko, considering the situation where they first reunited, Ran calling her to see if she's alright when the earthquake warning happened and how she didn't said a thing when she found Keiko crying alone in the room

I thought Ran was calling her mother, not Keiko.

Am I the only one who thinks it is highly possible nothing is gonna come of this? That it will likely stay vague, they will be bff, and nothing will be resolved?

Maybe I am just not trying to get my hopes up. :P

That is the thing, this story isn't anomalous. It is a disturbingly common tale. I would think especially so given that this story came out of Japan in the 90s when women still seemed to have little agency over their lives.

1 in 3 women are raped in the world. People the world over blame those rapes on victims, not rapists (women shouldn't dress provacatively, walk by themselves at night, etc). Women who marry men are statistically much less likely to live in poverty because the pay gap between genders the world over is tremendous (this includes developed nations). Not mention many jobs are inaccessible to women because of sexist, gendered views of labor division. This story doesn't exist in a vacuum. Sadly, I personally know grown men (plural, as in quite a few) who happily bed teenage girls. :/

Thanks for being super respectful with your response, by the way. Totally wasn't expecting that. lol

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Sol Falling, I could not agree more!

And nobody has problems with, lets say, a 26/27 year old man dating a 15/16 year old girl? Innocent until proven guilty? In many countries that is statutory rape. The entire notion of "Lolitas" is bullshit. Young people (both girls and boys) cannot give that kind of consent as adults are able to manipulate youth (due to inexperience and power dynamics), especially ones wounded by all the adults in their lives. That makes the boyfriend a predator. Guilty.

And let us not be uncommitted to our own logic by complaining this manga portrays all men as evil horndogs (even though the character is speaking to her plentiful experiences of abuse), then give the dude a million miles of slack for dating a young girl because she "seduced him." Pick. Either you believe in the will power and agency of grown men or you don't. Either this dude is a horndog who cannot control himself or he is a GROWN MAN taking advantage of a hurt young girl living in an unsafe environment. Either way, no sympathy from me.

P.s. the dude admits she is emotionally unstable when he inarticulately talks about her behavior and how she acts out. He talks about her family history of abuse as well, so rather than be a good guy and help a young girl out, he chose to have sex with her.

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