This must have been when Touko foolishly thought that she was actually a top haha

Yeah—the Touko-senpai Mk. I.

That model always was a bit twitchy—that wouldn’t happen with the new behavioral inhibitors.

I understood that reference.

When it comes to sexxxy stuff, Shi & Mio are leagues ahead of the rest. Even those raunchy scenes in the early volumes (Ai & Chie fondling breasts, Miyoshi & Ayano play humping) pale in comparison. Shi & Mio win by a mile through the sheer eroticism of their passionate frenching.

Eh, Yuu and Mari are still contenders. Don't forget the family restaurant scene. And I am still pretty certain that hand-holding scene in the movie theater was metaphorical.

She got som crazy eyes for her to see that her legs got fatter by 3cm jesus christ ٩( ᐛ )و and no wonder because she kept eating practice cakes

Well... 3 cm is actually quite a bit... especially in one week. What's more surprising is that she didn't increase... ANYWHERE ELSE...

I mean, 3cm is about an inch, but we're talking about -circumference- here. A woman's thigh is around 60cm around. 3cm is only like 5% of that. Which means that the change in RADIUS, which is what you'd be most likely to recognize, is more like 0.5cm. And she saw it from quite a distance. That's some pretty hawkeyed thigh-gazing, there.

This is starting to feel like a monkey's paw situation.

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Picked up by Kodansha as "Whisper You a Love Song".
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-11-17/kodansha-comics-announces-12-digital-manga-licenses-4-manga-print-releases/.153347

This won't affect our translation, as per usual.

Neat. I'm curious to see how the official translation will tackle the misunderstanding at the beginning. It's one of those things that seems pretty difficult to translate effectively without having one party look like a total ditz.

Heavensrun posted:

Laws of Lesbiandynamics:

1) Conservation of Uselessness
2) Direction of angst transfer
3) No lesbian can reach absolute zero uselessness

"Yuridynamics" would probably be a better name since it has the same verbal flow as "thermodynamics" does.

Solid point. Maybe we should co-author a paper on the field.

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oH GOD, a love rival comes up, we're fucked.
We all know that when a love rival appears, the relationship ALWAYS breaks apart or starts going through a war.
Here we go boys, fasten your seatbelts, this is going to be tough.

. . . You haven't read very many series if you think a love rival ALWAYS breaks apart the relationship or sends them through a war.

In fact, I don't think you've read THIS SERIES, which had a love rival show up just like, one story arc ago, with no serious heavy fallout.

I said her manipulation is harmless because she hasn't actually done anything to negatively impact Nanoha's relationship with Chidori. Her motive (steal Nanoha away) might be wicked, but I'd say it's better to judge someone by their actions. Has she tried to turn Nanoha away from Chidori? No. Has she interfered in their relationship in any way? No. All she's done is reestablished ties with an old friend. A result of that is that Nanoha has spent a little less time with Chidori, but that's just how life works. We each have limited time and have to decide how to allocate that.

no that's a smirk. it's a fairly common image to portray a smug feeling like that, where they just show the mouth, no eyes. and her being embarrassed for "accidentally sharing too much" is pretty commonly used as well. it's to make themselves look even more pathetic. and obviously she will try something or the author wouldn't have put her in with this set up at all ;) of course you can say don't judge people by what they haven't done, but this is a book, not real people, and authors often follow fairly predictable patterns.

They show the mouth to focus on the gesture. Hiding the eyes often hides the intent, but it doesn't read that way here to me. Also, smirks and smiles are drawn differently. A smirk is when one corner of the mouth goes up. In manga this is typically drawn with the mouth as a straight line clearly tilted up on one side, or a line that is clearly upturned more on one side than the other. Here you have a pretty typical, centered, symmetrical "U" shape. That's a clearly drawn smile.

It even has the word "smile" as a sound effect, although I'd have to see the raws to know if that's accurate. At the very least that suggests that the translator doesn't suspect anything nefarious in that moment, or they would have written "smirk" instead.

UGH I HATE THIS.

No orginal ideas for conflict in your yuri? Just add an annoying girl who will try to break up the main ship! Everyone will love it! It'll take a while, and then you can resolve it and everyone will be happy.

Why is this shit in 99.9% of high school yuri? Time to stop reading for 10 chapters, and catch up once this is over with.

Because this is what high school -is-? A bunch of horny kids figuring out how dating works, falling for the wrong people, falling for the right people but handling it bad, crushing on somebody that's taken and being heartbroken, crushing on somebody that's taken and going after them anyway...

It's common in fiction because it happens commonly.

If somebody was all "Man, why do all Yuri manga end with an elaborate showdown with an evil devil king who summons aliens to fight the alpha couple with paper footballs", I could see a valid argument being made that this is an unrealistic and contrived twist for a romance comic. But complaining about love triangles and angst is like complaining about blue skies in realistic landscape paintings.

The law of uselessness: Uselessness in yuri is always a constant. If uselessness in the main couple decreases, a new useless lesbian must be added to the cast.

Laws of Lesbiandynamics:

1) Conservation of Uselessness
2) Direction of angst transfer
3) No lesbian can reach absolute zero uselessness

Wait, it already ended? Dammit! Also, while quoting this, it showed what you censored out. Thankfully, I was looking down so I didn't get spoiled. Learned my lesson

Eh, it wasn't a real spoiler anyway, just a joke about the apparent style and presentation of the story in the finale.

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I swear Ayano and Miyoshi are the "save the best for last" couple.

Yep or they just are both afraid of rejection by the other right now due to how less common same sex relationships are.

I get the impression that Miyoshi hasn't realized her feelings for Ayano. Ayano is clearly into Miyoshi, but Miyoshi just thinks they're close friends. I doubt they're worried about stigma. Everybody in their class seems aware of Chie and Ai and seems fine with it. More likely Miyoshi hasn't realized how Ayano feels and Ayano is afraid to push the issue, probably because she's worried Miyoshi is straight.

Next step in breaking down her insecurities is obviously lewd sex hand-holding.

Hey now, we don't want this place to become unwholesome, so I fixed that to make it less obscene.

Damn you love triangles!!!

Damn right, I DO love triangles. They've so pointy, and there's so many different kinds...right, icosceles, equilateral...

Wait, we're talking about geometry here, right? Where am I?

I've completely lost track of this.

(Tilt head) Seriously? What's so hard to understand? Hime's trying to figure out who she is, and he's play-dating her to help her figure it out. None of this is complicated.

If you just aren't bothering to read it, then fine, you don't have to read it, you don't have to like it, but then go away?

Every chapter: "You know, these two haven't had sex yet"

That's not fair at all.

Many chapters just straight up invent new people for the character from last chapter to have sex with.

Like, this wouldn't bother me if they'd started with this concept, but we hung around with the original couple for several chapters, so it sure just feels like the author got bored with them and decided to switch concepts so they could indulge some of their fetishes. Which, I mean, again, fine, but make it a spinoff or something. Change the title.

I feel like Haruka's giving those vibes as sort of a red herring.

Or well, not really a red herring, but like, she's said how she's messed up previous friendships by getting overly attached.

Us readers are like, yeah, cuz girl you're super gay and you crushed on your straight friends, you're not some horrible person who gets overly attached, you're just a normal teenager who happens to like girls.

But Haruka feels like she is, and so every time she gets more intimate with Kanae it's sort of got the tone of like, oh shit, she's gone too far this time, it's gonna screw everything up. Except that Kanae is also super into her right back, so they keep progressing their relationship, with them both obviously realizing that something more is going on by now than just being friends.

tl;dr: I think Haruka gives off those little yandere vibes because that's how she feels about herself, but she's actually just a kid with a crush who likes her back.

Well, and, honestly, manga fans tend to read things straight to the most extreme trope. So jealousy and possessiveness? Yandere. Member of a couple talks to a boy and isn't instantly hostile? Het end. Best friend has a doki over one half of a couple? NTR! Somebody stands by a train track? They're clearly contemplating suicide. Uh oh, an intersection. That can only mean Truck-san!

Seriously, though, I think Haruka's insecure because she has cottoned on that she like-likes Kanae, but she doesn't know if Kanae feels the same way. So every time Kanae stops interacting with her to interact with someone else, she's thinking "does she like them as much as me? Maybe better? Do -they- like her? She needs to just straight up confess. It'd probably calm a lot of that insecurity if she knew she was special.

90k yen for 3 bedrooms is less than my 405 sq ft. studio by almost half. Guess that solidfies this manga as fiction.

You live in Japan?

Do we know where they are? Tokyo? Somewhere else?

"What happened to our protagonists? Fuck that nevermind here's incest mom fucking her daughter's friend"

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I'm surprised nobody is fuming at how Nononon rejected Yumimi's confession of love pretending it had to be a joke.

I didn't take that as a confession. It looked like more teasing from the writer.

I think the intent is that Yumimi kind of half meant it. She might be testing the water.

To everyone that didn't like the first chapter... What, do you all hate fun?

Bad writing, boring characters, and cliche plot isn't "fun". Chapter 2 didn't help with the "no homo" and everything after is mundane. Characters remain unlikable throughout.

I disagree on all counts. Yeah, the first chapter is a pretty cliche plot, but you know what you never see? That plot in the -first chapter-. You never see a story about what happens -after- the lover steals the depressed bride away from her wedding, so this isn't cliche, it's an inversion of a cliche.

And, seriously, chapter 2 has no "no homo" moment. She just didn't want to get married! They're clearly in a relationship! She was bashful about having sex, but c'mon, have you people never seen someone act like a tsundere? She even says "I didn't hate it or anything"!

Creep Hime made it clear she doesn't like men

She didn't, though? She's definitely into Akira, but liking a girl doesn't mean not liking guys. She's explicitly unsure of what is causing her feelings of discomfort. I mean, he JUST asked her a bunch of questions to try and lock that down, and her response was "I dunno". That's literally why he's asking her: to help her figure out if she doesn't like men, doesn't like being liked, doesn't like being liked by Hasegawa particularly, or just plain doesn't like Hasegawa. There are pretty clear context clues that he isn't doing this selfishly.

I am looking forward to the next chapter. Few stories dare to tread openly into the dreaded meeting with the parents.

With as many complaints about the first chapter as there are, I have to say it makes sense - like a thought experiment, what happens next? Almost no story bothers to deal with the aftermath or what next. The Graduate (which is actually pretty creepy to watch nowadays, and sadly dead on when it came to the infamous 'plastics' advice) ended with them in a taxi and not even looking each other in the eye, basically foreshadowing bad things.

This story starts where many manga end, and goes from there. There some good stories like this on the site but they certainly aren't the most common.

Yeah, I honestly thought the first chapter was a one-shot. When the story continued, they immediately had my attention.

To be perfectly actually serious, he shows up again in chapter 4 and validates everything I said about him being walking garbage.

I won't get that far, I had to drop it at chapter two when Aoi said "I did it to thank you... we're not dating lol" feels like "why are we here, just to suffer?" moment and the other girl doesn't waste a second to remind Aoi that she's been living off her work for an entire month...like....wow imagine that! is not like she was living off Aoi's san work and effort previous to that or anything, oh wait she totally did! so I just feel 0 empathy for these girls.

That...is not what she said. Not even remotely close. They're clearly a couple, they're lovers, living together. She just didn't want to get married yet. That is not an uncommon or unreasonable position to have literally the first time your lover brings up the subject. They're obviously supporting each other and caring for each other.

not sure if chief is smooth af or oblivious af...

she's obliviously smooth af

She's smoothly oblivious af

Great. Now we've gone from not knowing whether she's smooth af or oblivious af to not knowing whether she's obliviously smooth af or smoothly oblivious af.

The correct answer is "Yes."

If Mayuyu x Mariri get a cover it will be WITH Nononon x Yumimi. I'd say that they are only marginally paired anyway. Up until a couple of chapters ago (in terms of chapters that the debate club appears in) Mariri had a boyfriend, after all... Not that it doesn't look like Mariri doesn't have plans to continue playing with Mayuyu at every possible opportunity. She seems to be a great character that hasn't been utilized nearly enough!

So... exactly how many time will Christmas come around while these girls are in the same grades? Don't get me wrong... I love the series and everything... but it's clear that they are NEVER going to graduate and they will always be living their lives between the start and end of this one school year. That's all well and good, since the relationships seem to actually progress despite the slice-of-life/humor first approach, but it also means we'll miss out on some things, like how Mio would deal with Shizuka graduating, especially if, per chance, she and Kaoru ended up at the same university.

I don't know... it's just one of those things that bugs me... I prefer even comedy series to actually age their characters and let time move in a logical manner instead of putting out seasonal chapters without moving the characters forward. (It appears that there is a Christmas themed chapter about once every two volumes, which would suggest that the manga is semi-monthly and the Christmas chapters are timed for the December issues, since there appear to be about 12 chapters per volume in general?)

You're assuming these are all in chronological order, but....is that justified? I mean, the individual character arcs seem to be shown in order, but I don't think we've seen the same couple on more than one Christmas.