Anyway I think the person Makino will introduce to the rich boy will be her own mother. He seems to have a taste for annoying unfiltered women (he liked Makino putting her feet up on the table and picking her nose after all), and who is the one annoying unfiltered woman Makino knows who is straight and clearly values money more than love? That's right, Toxic Mother.

No problem sticks around particularly long in this series, so I don't see the fiancee being a problem for much longer. Also thinking it's gonna be Riri, which I know there's logistical issues possibly, but I can imagine that's only gonna make rich boy even more set on trying to win her over.

God, remember Maron being suicidal and Makino just instantly fixing it by going over to her apartment and offering to be friends. Lol that was by far the biggest nadir of this comic.

I appreciated the detail of them earning money by crafting instead of murder like many fantasy main characters. It's a nice bit of flavor for them and really adds to their humanity.

That plot twist was pretty cheap in my opinion tbh.

I just want to know about Komachi's intentions n leave this manga for good.

Personally I’ve been suspicious of Komacchi for most of the manga, so I don’t think that’s out of nowhere.

They haven't so much as been foreshadowing or dropping hints as explicitly framing her as a future threat, if this was a tv show there would have been multiple scenes by now of her standing by a window lit from below and smirking evilly while lightning flashes. It's been so obvious that it feels weird to not twist it, because I thought this was supposed to be a mystery series.

Agree with pretty much all of the above. The least few chapters have been all over the place and they don't really add up well at all, especially with details like how on earth could Seo intricately plan all this shit is she only stopped trying to be "good" while she was choking as the Prez watched and gloated? It's like she snapped and then somehow time traveled to retroactively be a scheming evil genius exactly of the same sort that the Prez was.
And I'm totally not a fan of Komachi's "heel turn" because it was telegraphed so obviously and heavy handedly in the very first chapter that not subverting it feels super weird and awkward. "Yeah that weird kid with mental health issues who you had a bad first impression of? No need to check your biases or anything you were right about her all along!" My best guess for her motive is some kind of revenge plot against Satsuki for saving her life when she wants to die, but it's such a fucking stupid scheme if that's the case. We went from cool mysteries to one dimensional scheming villains who start and end looking exactly the same to the audience.
Prez dying while remaining shallow as a puddle makes me hope that maybe there's a twist there, with the scene as shown to us if he was dying and VP did something Satsuki didn't see to save him, the smoke would have disappeared in the exact same way. So maybe there's another twist there, idk. Even if that happens I can't really imagine him somehow turning into a satisfying antagonist anyway.

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I don't think we have to do all that much deliberating on the nuance of Japanese to infer how Aya views Koga considering her other reactions in this chapter. She doesn't view Koga as a "celebrity" or something, but clearly seemed to put her on some kind of pedestal, viewed from some kind of distance. Right before her brothers bust in the room she thinks "aah, it feels like she's just a normal friend..." and she's expressing both excitement and anxiety about Koga coming over her house. I'd imagine her feelings are too complicated for her to put into words even if she was going to try to spell it out for you lol. She's attracted to her but also not yet really comfortable enough with her to conceptualize her as a potential girlfriend, I would imagine. This chapter was a step forward in that regard, bringing her image of Koga another notch closer to Koga's reality instead of Aya's assumptions.

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The only thing I care about in the manga is Mimei. I don't even want her to end up with the MC because she deserves better than that empty headed flake. I want her to take over the manga as the new main character and get an awesome cool girlfriend or girlfriends and be happy.

It's really funny that multiple people called the trans implication in this chapter "subtle" because I think it's so obvious that I suspect it's a fake out and it's actually her brother in the photo for some reason, lol

4) In that same conversation, Senpai waves to Michi, who plays dumb and says "maybe it's a ghost then I dunno lol". Senpai laughs it off, who would believe in ghosts at their age? And Aizawa breaths a sigh of relief for some reason. Why was Aizawa relieved? Did she want Senpai to think she's a normal living student? If so, why'd she float in front of her lol.

Sayaka had just asked if Michi if she was ignoring Aizawa because they were fighting, so I imagine that's what she was sighing in relief at. Which is interesting if we assume Aizawa hasn't lost her memories, doesn't know that Michi has, and thinks Michi might be mad at her for something.

... Wait wouldn't that require Aizawa to think Michi sees her? Because if she thinks Michi can't, as she's trying to pretend in the scene, then she'd have to idea who Senpai was referring to with her question about fighting. She doesn't mention Aizawa's name, and actually would have no way to know it unless Aizawa secretly talked to her where we didn't see it. Honestly, considering that Michi's friends have noticed her "starring into space" it would be more weird if Aizawa DIDN'T think Michi could see her.
Actually that reminds me, in the chapter where Michi visits Aizawa in child form in her sleep, Aizawa instantly reacts to seeing her real body the next day, diving in for a hug. She clearly perceives both forms of Michi as the same person. That feels interesting to me but idk what if anything it implies lol. Maybe Michi saw herself as a child in the dream but Aizawa didn't, or maybe it'll turn out they knew each other as kids.

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Point of clarity! The romance tag lets readers know if it will be romance or not. There is a ton of content on the site that is yuri without being romantic. Anyone concerned with progress, or the (very outdated by this point) focus on whether or not something is yuri based on whether or not there is subtext, just needs to check if there is a romance tag. That's the tag to care about. The yuri tag is not designed to define romance, and the genre of yuri expands way beyond romance, particularly with how the genre has grown explosively in the last decade. Like, for instance, this series.

This is a bit confusing to me. This whole series so far feels like a slow burn to an eventual relationship (especially given the side illustrations which often look "post confession/hookup" and the adults in the story "knowing" about the leads' true feelings for each other) and that in itself is why I would call it yuri. To make an analogy, something like My Dress Up Darling clearly has a main couple that will get together by the end of the story, which is why it's often labeled a romcom/romance even though the two leads aren't dating yet after several volumes. It feels like yuri fans have a much more narrow definition of yuri and romance compared to NL manga fans.

You should probably drop that "NL" label, it's shitty to call het manga "normal love" since that indirectly calls everything else abnormal. (I've also seen NL defined as "natural love" before and that's even worse lmao) The tag on this site is "het" and that's definitely the best, even if it might lead to arguments for edge cases like My Dress Up Darling where the girl's bi and the guy has better than even chances of being an egg.

Does Senpai just think it's totally normal for some people to fly or have wounds that never heal forever on their bodies or have monstrous shapes?

I mean, if you've always seen such "people" around you, it would be normal for you...

But then why does she react negatively to some of them, throwing ink at the figure from the first day of school and commenting later that a bunch of "weird people" are around lately? She seems to categorize people into two categories, and I'm wondering what her criteria are where looking misshapen makes someone weird but flying does not.

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Rereading the series, and a few mysterious reactions stuck out to me:
1) In chapter 8, when Honda sees Michi pinned under the shelf in the gym storage shed, she does not shout "Michy!" as you'd expect, she shouts Michi's last name, "Kurotori!". She's right back to calling her Michy again the next panel, as she helps Kasumi pick the shelf up. What's up with that? Given that was a reflexive shout in panic compared to everything else, it makes me wonder if her apparent closeness to Michi something that she's forcing to some degree.
2) When Senpai arrives at the nurse's office afterwards, Michi and the possessed Kasumi are behind a curtain, with Honda on the other side. What's she doing out there, separated from the others? And when Senpai tells her to go find the nurse, she's got sweatdrops and seems really nervous. It's just kinda weird. Why was she still hanging out in the nurse's office but not with Michi and Kasumi? Why was she scared of Senpai?
3) In chapter 10, when Aizawa helps Senpai find the sulking Michi in the stairwell, Michi is shocked to see Senpai talking to Aizawa as if she's normal- and I am too, considering this scene has Aizawa floating around (it's even got a "float..." sound effect to emphasize it. And the "weird guy" she threw ink at in the previous chapter's flashback is obviously inhuman as well, given his shape: Does Senpai just think it's totally normal for some people to fly or have wounds that never heal forever on their bodies or have monstrous shapes?
4) In that same conversation, Senpai waves to Michi, who plays dumb and says "maybe it's a ghost then I dunno lol". Senpai laughs it off, who would believe in ghosts at their age? And Aizawa breaths a sigh of relief for some reason. Why was Aizawa relieved? Did she want Senpai to think she's a normal living student? If so, why'd she float in front of her lol.

Lmao no, that's "Diana," the player character of the otome game, visiting her family, as you can tell from final panel. The guy she's talking to/fighting with is clearly an older brother. I realize IFTV may have established certain dark expectations when you see a sister and brother getting along but in this case they've thoroughly established Diana as being in yandere with Midori, the MC. It really doesn't take that much time to poke your head in previous chapters to refresh, y'all.

This has a fun vibe like it's deliberately playing with hetero/bl shoujo relationship dynamics, with Ami playing the part of the inscrutable sexy popular boy who mysteriously likes the gloomy main character for perhaps dark or kinky reasons.

I'm liking the writing. It's just told more through expression and characterization than plot. My biggest complaint about the writing is simply that them being high schoolers doesn't really make sense for how they are characterized or drawn, this would make a lot more sense to me as college students or young adults.

Also that leg lock scene was perhaps the first time I've seen a scene focus on feet and it add to the feeling of the scene rather than detract from it, because her flexing toes added to the physicality of her squeezing her top in close.

It doesn't really make any sense for Seo to have anything to do with the classroom, since she was "trying to be good" right up until the Prez tried to kill her. That seems to be entirely Komachi for some reason?? idk this all feels convoluted and unnecessarily dramatic right now.

The only possibility for anyone getting "arrested" would be Makino for punching her mom, except her mom slapped her first. I seriously doubt the law is going to get involved with this story lol

This mc is like the sole acceptable kind of "landlord" since she's renting out a room in the place she lives rather than owning extra homes to extract value from them. Wouldn't be surprised if that's a kind of renting that was never really persecuted, since the scale makes it pretty unlikely to effect society.
Also she's hot, another key aspect to being acceptable lol

That it wasn't even a slap but an all out punch, complete with "oraaaa!" is so fucking good LMAO. Exactly what that bigot had coming. Unfortunately this spells some financial trouble for our heroes in the near future, as one gets cut off from her parents and the other fired. Gonna be hard to attend prep school or college without money. However, I seem to remember a rich yandere client character from a while back in this manga. Maybe it's her time to swoop in and save the day.

Edit: looking back at that rich yandere, she ended up pulling a box cutter on Makino so uh. Maybe she's had a major change of heart but still unlikely to be the hero our scumbags need lol.

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I honestly totally forgot about Hibiki's brief flirtatious friendship with Kaoru. If she's talked about boys again since (decent chance in the over 200 chapters it's been since that little story played out, never would have been able to find it without the tags) then yeah she's probably bi. But she bi because she can be attracted to a girl and also still likes boys, not because she had anything to do with boys in the past, that is an important distinction still. A character's hypothetical future is way more important for defining sexuality than their past.
(And I'm still iffy about Hibiki because I don't remember her ever saying a single positive word about any of her relationships, they seem very unfulfilling for her lol. But then so was her crush on Kaoru. Maybe Hibiki doesn't truly like boys or girls but a secret third thing.)

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Omg this chapter was soooo cute, love the gym teacher and nurse.

So, everyone including the female teachers are lesbians at this school?

Hibiki has dated boys, so she's either bi or het.

That's not necessarily how it works. You can find out more by researching "compulsive heterosexuality" but the tldr is that most of us start out thinking we're straight because that's the norm society dictates, try it out and find it unsatisfying without quite being able to figure out why, and then one day have a gay revelation and never go back. Girls and women who "date" boys, have one gay encounter, and act like they just saw the rapture is all over yuri manga, and that story structure is not supposed to communicate "bisexual" lol. They're like the black and white clips from infomercials of people trying to do household chores, fucking it up in silly ways, and going "there just has to be a better way!" while looking into the camera.

Loved the first chapter, but that ending left me really sour. She straight ghosted her for months in such a mean way, a larger apology was the least someone would ask :- (

What exactly would this "bigger apology" even look like, Rinko already apologized multiple times in that scene and fully explained everything? Did you want her to beg or something?? I could get this opinion if there was like violence or serious betrayal between them but just an awkward pause in them meeting really doesn't seem like nearly that big a deal, especially since it had a good reason.

Tags should just be gone. What people want is full on spoiler summaries for complete series anyway, and tags don't actually serve as in their function as cataloguing content anymore, so better ditch them before further devolvement. People need to be untrained from checklist reading. ^^

Some want to know if this is actually Yuri, which is a genre. It's very normal to want to know what genre you're reading. Yuri lets you know if this involves romance or not (specifically between women). It doesn't say anything about the other outcomes or about spoilers, anymore than knowing that something is in the comedy genre spoils a film or book. I don't see anyone asking for much more beyond that.

The series has explicitly romantic feelings from one girl to another girl. What people are actually pining for is a hint that they'll actually have a romance between them, and that's impossible to predict or tag for.

I swear, why are manga artists so terrible at having characters face consequences or even apologise. I cannot count the ammount of times ive seen ppl pull some insane shit and then just say "but i meant well" and every1 goes yea thats fair moving on. (shoutout to Whispering you a love song for peak levels of that shit). Like really you couldnt even make her friend fuckin apologize once for the shit shes put the mc through ??

Apology scenes tend not to happen for the same reason people don't say goodbye at the end of phone calls in movies: they don't want to take up the time showing something that won't contribute to the plot. Especially if that apology is just reflecting on stuff we've already seen happen and showing the feelings of a character that isn't a main one. A scene of Lillian expressing her regret out loud for what she's done just isn't important to the story, at least for the moment. You can infer it from other thoughts and actions but it's not worth taking up a bunch of time to highlight.

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Thanks for bumping this thread, because I'd never heard of this series before. I like it a lot, it sort of reminds me of the Korean comic "White Angels Have No Rest" (an extremely dark psychological erotica that imo handles topics way darker than I'd normally be cool with in a way that makes me accept it), except this is a teen comedy lol. But it's similarly a story about the interactions between mental illness and desire.

I bring this up because I genuinely believe that the author does not realise that what Renako went through was a rape attempt. The tone of the encounter tries to remain comedic and the rest of the volume is about Renako and Satsuki believing that somehow Renako has to now take care of Mai because Mai getting rejected and slapped by Renako (as a response to the attempted rape) deeply hurt Mai's feelings.

This baffles and infuriates me beyond belief. What the fuck is going on in this manga?! I am hoping against hope that somehow the next volume adresses this explicitly, but it seems that instead we are setting up a harem. What?!

I don't know how you got the impression the author thought that stuff was fine considering Renako slaps Mai, calls her an asshole, and kicks her out of her house the same chapter it happens. It has repercussions that last quite a while and imo based on what's available so far on Mangadex continues to be something stuck between Renako and Mei, hence the "harem" arcs of her spending time with her other friends (no idea why people get so jumpy over the concept of a character daring to be potentially attracted to multiple people tbh...). They're not actively calling your attention to it but you can absolutely see it in how Renako treats Mai and the shame and revulsion she treats her own sexual feelings with.