Plebeian posted:

Hi, is this the right place to ask for help with the spam filter? I think I used the preview post option too many times and my post is being detected as spam.

Should be good now I believe, sorry about that. Nice avatar btw.

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Just a thought. For my part, I never understand why people stick with something they find major problems with in hope that it will 'get better', especially when their feedback and opinion have no influence on the production of the work. I don't even read reviews for the most part. If I like something, I read/watch it. If I don't, I don't. Modern people are inundated with entertainment, why bother with something you don't enjoy 100%? Not to mention that free stuff like this are free so your money is not being wasted.
For this particular manga, first chapter tells me it's a wacky comedy ecchi series with a baka perverted MC ( I mean, she time slips by masturbating furiously in a kiddie playground and impulsively kisses her underage senpai on their 'first' meeting) and it remains a wacky comedy ecchi series with a baka perverted MC. So it's not like the manga changes its direction 180 degree after a few chapters. It's been like that from the start.

Don't wanna carry too much on a tertiary subject, but here goes. It's nice that you have your experience, but that doesn't mean others will, or are even capable of it. So, I'm only really interested in one big genre (yuri), and don't have much time for entertainment. While it's easy for me to enjoy basically anything, I also have reasonably high standards for what I'd consider "enjoying 100%." I stick with plenty of middling series because I've read everything else I want to, or they have some redeeming quality that I really adore that I will not find in many other places. So yeah, we're different.

Lastly, I'll repeat again that I don't really see these comments from anyone surprised this series is suddenly ecchi or hate-reading and hate-commenting all the way through. As far as I can tell, those commenters enjoyed (or continue enjoying) the manga enough to continue, and (in some cases) eventually dropped it and commented as much when that stoppe being true. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

Lizstar can speak for themselves if they wish to, but I just wanted to make a few brief points.

Plebeian posted:

Could you elucidate on the value of critiquing a work on morals the author is clearly deliberately ignoring?
I ask because for one, I cant see how the author could use criticism like that when the moral failings being decried here are so foundational to the works premise.

One, even English-fluent artists who approve of their work being posted here are unlikely to browse these forums frequently, if ever. Assuming the artist did look at these "critiques," I'd point them to Linterdiction's posts on the previous pages. Even intentionally provocative media can push boundaries in a way that turns some of its core audience off, and even framing changes could avoid that trap entirely.

It couldn’t help readers either, since if their morals don’t align with the work they’d have been able to tell and jump ship by the end of the very first chapter.

Two, several readers have been hopping off the train for the past few chapters, some rather disappointed. Most humans don't deal in absolutes, and are willing to stick with resonant pieces even if those pieces are grating in some fashion. In this instance, without the benefit of reviews to guide them, any given reader may stick it out for several chapters in the hopes that the positives grow and the negatives wane. Ignorant though this apparently is to you, the proof lies in this very thread, and the posts her serve as "reviews" for prospective readers.

I dont intend to strawman your position as ‘this is bad so you shouldn’t like it’, but what other arguments are 'real life morals' going to contribute to here? Besides, of course, the argument of ‘this is bad so it shouldn’t be made’.

Third, and finally, you suggest that a comment must be made in service of a larger argument. These forums operate for discussions, yes, but also serve as the equivalent to blog posts for others. The mere expression of one's opinion may be all they're after, and still holds value besides.

Look back on Ryuu-chii's post, wherein they draw dissatisfaction with the tenor of comments present. Just as they come away from the thread feeling negatively about moralistic comments, one on the opposite side of the spectrum would feel a positive sense of identification with those same comments. The expression of disgust amidst (apparently) growing distaste among this story's audience engenders a sense of belonging that doesn't exist if none of those comments are ever made.

Thus, between the inherent value of reviews to some readers, and the further value of identity to others, there seem to be valid reasons to comment "moralistically" on a given work without suggesting anything about whether the piece should exist or whether anyone else should or shouldn't like it. And we didn't even get into the fun stuff! Maybe next time.

This is amazing, good for Nico.

Lizstar posted:

why are half the people here are so sensetive like let the characters be, you know since the first chapter that this is going to be dumb but great manga to read. real life morals is gone.

In the same vein, maybe you should let people critique a manga they're reading and not enjoy it?? No one here has said "this is bad so YOU SHOULDN'T LIKE IT" but I've seen a lot in the reverse.

A comments section is there to... make comments. Positive and negative.

And for the record, no, real life morals don't suddenly disappear cause we're reading manga lol that's a weird thing to insinuate.

Yeah, people have differing views on media all the time and should be free to express them. One's taste not aligning with some random stranger on the internet should never be reason for feeling upset or attacked. Also don't think someone saying "this makes me uncomfortable" is really a moral argument, but eh.

TctyaDDK, thanks so much for sharing! Better late than never, I hope...? Double thanks to T.Claes for her work!

Anyone, please send more gems!

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I don't get the references (to the extent there are any) but this is super cute! I really wish we got more scenes like this...Thank you for sharing with us!

You may wish to try this thread for more help: https://dynasty-scans.com/forum/topics/11660-what-s-that-manga-called?page=109#forum_post_707413

Hiya, we don't have a ticket system or any subscription services. I think you're in the wrong place!

Young Blasarius posted:

I'm actually most inclined to begin integrating all of these into two-part (or more, in rare cases) series. This addresses a number of issues that other solutions unfortunately don't, and it's much easier for us to do now than when we originally chose the tagging solution. Will definitely consider your suggestion in the meanwhile, thank you.

Any change that would make it easier to navigate between a work and its appropriate prequels and sequels would be great.

If you think it would prove beneficial, I suspect you could offload some of the work onto the community. Perhaps, a thread in which members could indicate which prequels and sequels belong together, and in what order they should be listed. This could allow site staff to keep track of what works need to be grouped.

(P.S. First time in this forum. Whenever I try to post, it gets flagged as spam and doesn't allow me to post.)

Yeah, we may just do that. You've got a spam exception now, shouldn't have any further problems. Hopefully we can figure out what keeps triggering this but...

Happy birthday Nico!

Yes, this is a menu screen from a video game.

Go play the free (translated) fan game over on RudyTudy's website. Or go play in the original Japanese if you prefer that! Summary below:

"Nico Yazawa Is Dreaming is a RPG-esque game by 7 Colored LED made in Java, mostly centered on character interactions with some RPG elements sprinkled in-between.

When Nico-chan woke up one day, she found herself inside a mysterious dream world!!
Joined by the rest of μ's, she embarks on a great adventure!
Beset by many strange and cute creatures, she must bring a smile to all of them!
Aim to become the number one idol in the universe!"

Young Blasarius posted:

Are there currently any plans to expand the way Prequel and Sequel are tagged? I find it a little inconvenient to have to scroll through the comments in the hopes that someone provided a link to the sequel or prequel of a work, oftentimes having the story spoiled before I have even read it. This is compounded by the fact that the titles of a multi-work series may not have an obvious indicator in the title to tell whether it is “Part 1” or “Part 2”.

To be clear, I’m not referring to multi-chapter series that have a series page and description, on which all the chapters are listed, but to the oneshots and individual works that have sequels or prequels.

A simple solution could be to pin a link to the sequel or prequel of a work at the top of the comments section, so that it can be easily found without having to scroll through the comments.

I'm actually most inclined to begin integrating all of these into two-part (or more, in rare cases) series. This addresses a number of issues that other solutions unfortunately don't, and it's much easier for us to do now than when we originally chose the tagging solution. Will definitely consider your suggestion in the meanwhile, thank you.

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Gangreen posted:

Yuru Ichigo (translators) abandon the proyect but there are 3 more chapters in japanese, hope someboby else take it.
https://rawkuma.com/manga/watashi-wo-tabetai-hitodenashi/

got any source on the abandoning or is it purely speculation on the count of them being absent for a long time?

Based on everything I've been able to gather, nobody in the broader yuri/Dynasty community had any contact with them outside of Twitter, and since their Twitter was nuked there's been no sign of any return. I guess for the time being we're just assuming they decided to retire after the MangaDex fiasco.

No sign of it in the release archive (and there's a related discussion where we decided not to upload it in the first place), so I'm thinking this is just some déjà vu! It was posted on the Discord a couple years ago by multiple folks, though.

Oh whoops. Sequel to this.

Thanks so much for sharing this with us! Awesome work!

Ryu-chii posted:

May I ask mods to just delete all these moral lessons comments ?

You may, but I don't really intend to. There are three users in the past four pages with such comments, all of whom even did so well as to connect their complaints to the story itself. Neither saltyslug5561 nor Ushio have returned to comment again, and have presumably dropped the manga here. You might disagree with 17hunter00 (and I quite hope the conversation is over), but they did raise substantive points and attempt to engage with others about the story.

In general, I've taken towards just removing comments from users who clearly don't mind tags before reading. I don't like them either. Rule 10 was added specifically for that purpose. However, again, I don't think these comments really apply - the users clearly read and (wanted to) enjoy[ed] the story before the most recent chapter. Should they return or continue to repeat the same story, action will be taken at that time. In the meanwhile, I'm sorry that they ruin the experience for you, but I think this is just a drawback of having a diverse crowd of people on the forums. If we banned every post or person that might annoy someone, I'm afraid there really wouldn't be many comments left.

Lastly (and I'm not directing this at you because I sincerely appreciate your comment) if one is really put-off by comments like this, they'd do best to report it to mods or simply ignore them. Mocking or attacking users you disagree with is fun in the moment, but usually it makes you look like a jerk, and wastes valuable space that actual discussion could fill.

In the case that you'd like to discuss moderation some more, please head to the Help thread so we don't crowd this one further. Thanks.

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Tehyar posted:

Did someone accidentally label the title box “summary” on the upload form? That would explain a lot.

Love this comment. Story was nice, too.

You may also have some luck in the recommendations thread: https://dynasty-scans.com/forum/topics/15680-yuri-manga-recommendations?page=31#forum_post_706781

Early birthday present for best girl!

Lilliwyt posted:

It's not that i'm against but that will an atrocious long time to tag every single work with the appropriate country.

I will be honest,it sound more like you want Dynasty to become a pseudo MD for Yuri because most of the changes you ask are from MD. I'm not saying it's a bad point but i just wanted to point it out.

Time isn't really a factor. I've also had some conversations in the past with some folks in this very thread about things that MD does better than we do, and vice-versa. I don't really use MD at all, but I'm still interested in what they're doing and will gladly copy good ideas and implementations they have. There's no good reason not to, as far as I'm concerned.

Nya-chan posted:

I think it's a bad idea to make a distinction about the country of origin of the works.

There's no value to it, except for a few narrow-minded persons who would like to filter only specific countries. Who cares if the artist is from China or Japan? What counts is if the story is good.

It's always been the philosophy of Dynasty: if the staff considers a work worthwhile to read, they will try to get it on the reader to share, whether it's Japanese, Chinese, Thai, Yuri or not.

While the conclusion is true, I'm not sure if the body is quite correct. You could probably apply the same logic to any tagging distinction, and even in cases where I'd agree, the point of tags is to allow customizability in user interaction. In my experience with Korean and Chinese stories, they've got their own tropes and archetypes just like JP stories do.

Naturally, those aspects may appeal to some readers more than others, so giving them the option to zone in on particular cultures they especially like doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. Moreover, everything from the artist name to the format to the presentation is a dead giveaway in most cases. If someone is seriously closed-minded enough to specifically care about country of origin, surely they'd already be clicking off content they don't like during the first page. If nothing else, the split would help in searches when dealing with hard-to-find stories, as again, you likely know the country of origin just by reading it.

Cornonthekopp posted:

I think that both country tags, as well as a long strip or webtoon tag would both be really helpful for organizing series, as well as making searches easier. Personally I’m a little more partial to long strip over webtoon but I think both do the job well and would be happy with either.

Yeah, Long strip seems to be the more popular choice, as it's very descriptive.

Currently the left to right tag can be seen as a stand in, but considering the non-zero amount of japanese webtoon style comics, it won’t show all webtoons. Of course there are also plenty of non-long strip style comics that fall into the read left to right category too, so it doesn’t really function as a stand in.

Not super related, but you may also use the Scanlator: Indie tag (just type "indie" and the tag will pop up) to find comics released in English.

Yuki Kitsune posted:

Brief history of terminology (as it was explained to me during an LGBT in Japan workshop): Unlike M/M stories that got split into Bara and Yaoi early on, Yuri was the general term in Japan for all F/F relationship stories, from platonic to hentai. When they eventually decided that they needed to somehow distinguish the "softer" works from more graphic stuff, they used the term "Girls' Love" or GL; that is, they used the English term because shoujo ai was already in use to identify het pedo hentai (yuck). Problem is, English speakers back-translated girls' love as "shoujo ai" -- so now it has a completely different meaning to English-speakers than it does to the Japanese. This confusion is, afaik, why the term shoujo ai is avoided on Dynasty.

I'm not sure how "Gilrs' Love" is used in other countries, but in Japan it is definitively a subset of Yuri. (I don't recall where in the timeline the term BL was introduced. Not my area of interest, I guess.)

Excellent post as always. Now, how it relates to the discussion above and a bit about what "Yuri" means to the site specifically.

When the site began over a decade ago, yuri was used with that original meaning; all stories of close F/F relationships were included. It's not until 2014 that we saw some divergence with the introduction of the Subtext tag, and then again (later) in 2014 with the Yuri crush tag (specifically for 4-komas/stories no development). Some of us on staff bristle a bit at the distinction between these categories and just how thin the lines can be between Yuri and Subtext. Still, splitting up the categories was our decision and it's one we'll stick to.

With that in mind, it should be clear we're not mixed up in the shoujo ai business, nor slavishly devoted to maintaining Japanese definitions on an English website. With our past switches away from the mirrored use of yuri, we've also created a slight reverse of the JP definitions - Yuri now refers to f/f romantic relationships, whilst Subtext and Yuri crush refer to relationships of a typically different nature. I'm fine with the contradiction. I'm also fine with continuing on as-is given our history, and if one looks at how new users find the site, they'll find web searches littered with "yuri" as the primary motivator behind it. However, this is all not to say that we might not change some day. If there's a time we're seriously considering it, I'll be sure to post somewhere first, to give everyone the proper opportunity to carry out whatever arguments they wish to.

Lastly, I'll reiterate that Yuri to us means f/f romantic relationships, full stop. As far as I know, this is the commonly-accepted definition throughout English-speaking f/f fandoms for nearly a decade by now.

none posted:

Could we maybe add the names of cover artists at issue's pages when those are known?

That is a fabulous idea. I'll look into it!

Maybe this idea can be incorporated with the recent decision to add covers to image batches. This way we'll have easy access to both a high res version of the illustrations and to the artists.

Yeah, definitely had that in mind!

Risamari posted:

i think years ago i asked for a tag like this to be created, they said there was no reason for it to exist
who's laughing now

Gottem

Aw this is so wholesome