It seems the more her presence manifests the worse things might be. I don't know if it's supposed to be a good thing that she's becoming more able to affect the world around her and Michi. We'll see. I hope not because that could end up very bittersweet, though it would be an interesting setup based on what's happened so far.

With a mother like that, no wonder Nan is so thoroughly broken and anti-relationship. She literally can not be honest about her feelings. It's an involuntary response!

Yeah she's been trained by life experiences to be hostile and distrusting of unconditional love and relationships. She's more comfortable with casual relationships with low stakes than the "little devil" and her desire for a deeper relationship. She's really determined not to end up like her mother--definitely involuntary and habitual like you said. A trauma response.

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Moral of the story: fully accepting each other for who they are, scumbag and "Marin" and all. Makino once again showing she doesn't care about Satou's work. And here comes the mom's shenanigans?

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Love the way Naori fixated on Hinata's well-being, even over her own. The series really avoids cheap stuff (no rivals or anything like that, no matter how much people worried about her sister). Always maintains focus on its main couple's relationship and presents an every growing, really interesting world around them to push the story and them forward. A lot of confidence in their own worldbuilding and writing. I really enjoy it and only feel stronger about it as chapters come and go.

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This is so interesting. They were a makeshift family, torn apart. Now the "sisters" have fought and seemingly betrayed one another. It seems like Olivia either forced part of the curse onto Lena as part of her revenge, and in order to free her mother; or Lena ended up doing so on her own? Can't wait to learn more and I might reread the series first to catch up on all the small details I might be forgetting. We've seen purification magic earlier in the series, for example. It's always fun to go back and see the breadcrumbs that were already planted and planned. It's becoming clearer that this has been in the works for quite a bit. Really enjoying this arc into the past. As always, it just needed the room to play out a bit first, to breathe. A lot of good world building and likely more to come.

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Now that I think of it, I can't think of another series that has that family dynamic (besides maybe I'm in Love with the Villainess)? Unless someone has recommendations?

She Loves to Cook, and She Loves to Eat has some pretty strong found family themes, especially in the latest English volume.

I haven't read that one yet. I'll look into it. It seems hard to find those especially involving a family with children. The only one that I know of that has this and actually spends time with this dynamic is the one I mentioned in the spoiler.

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^ Only if you entirely disregard all the progress made since and the fact that they specifically organized this event to celebrate their true marriage now. Sure, they did go with the original rules as their vows, but seeing how these were the actual basis of their marriage at its start, it actually makes a lot of sense to do so, and the significant part here is that they now have thrown out the fifth rule.

Yeah, I guess relationship types that don't conform, don't count. They made their feelings very very clear, throughout the manga. Can't imagine seeing them as just friends and even not lesbians, as one comment joked. All they don't do is a lot of physical intimacy. That's really enough to discredit their marriage; they haven't reached the agreed on quota?

Anyway, was a lovely series. I do wish we could have seen their "daughter's" escapades some more though. The family feels they had was some of my favorite from this series. Seeing her at the wedding, still in that daughter role was really cute. It actually makes me crave more series like this but with a full family.

Now that I think of it, I can't think of another series that has that family dynamic (besides maybe I'm in Love with the Villainess)? Unless someone has recommendations?

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maybe after they adopt a daughter or something),

You mean second daughter, right?

You know you're in for a treat when you see "wholesome" AND "lots of sex" in one tag line lol

True, true.

Grandpa's playing the long con. He knows how to get the girls together.

Yuzu isn’t smart enough to realize that maybe a friggin elementary schooler wouldn’t understand the implication of being confessed to when they’re still a small child and maybe asking again when they’re both…..considerably more mature might not be a bad idea???

This has turned into "Our Yuri Started With Me Getting Rejected in a Dream."

Are we back in the 90s? This is like a yuri manga from that time. From the time manga taught us that lesbians knew no lust, and love between women always was chaste and sisterly.
These two: no attraction, no horniness, no desire for each other's bodies, no nothing. They will live like vestal virgins ever after. Talk about a blast from the past! /s

They've done more than enough to prove and establish their love without needing more physical intimacy, though. I don't think this is about being chaste more than it's about an author who enjoys showing love without needing to depend on kissing and sex. It's a fairly common writing tip that if you need physical intimacy to prove your characters love each other, you've made a mistake. This writer just seems to take that seriously and I personally like it. Adds to the variety of relationship types.

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Imo, if we didn't have to wait so many months to get to this point this "reveal" would not have felt "too late". We've been made to wait both in the story and irl publication time so it's no wonder that that the suspense has pretty much died down for us who have already made our own conclusions while waiting for a new chapter

There's more to say but on this point I'd specifically disagree. The raws aren't ahead by much at all. The wait time would be the same and you write knowing the limitations of your medium. Things might be somewhat better in a straight read through but even then I don't think that changes much. I don't think the story benefits at all from keeping this until chapter 17. Nothing really unique or impactful happened while hiding this info so late; and as a result, for me, this feels like the story really is just starting. Not a big deal because this isn't taking itself very seriously anyway but...what would we have been lost if this came earlier in the series? I think we would have gained a lot.

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This was great. Going to miss it.

It's not fast at all, once they get together (for real) it ends...The point of this manga was the "fake" marriage, once resolved there're no reason to continue.

Yes.

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Very dumb and not very subtle twist, it's like 10 chapters late to be interesting (it hasn't been "years" since Yuzu-perspective chapter, I think we literally never had one). I'm honestly very disappointed it's that simple, and I'd argue it doesn't even explain her behaviour up to this point very well - you can talk about suppressing feelings all you want but this clearly showed she isn't completely oblivious.

It was not worth to hide all that just to uphold the gimmick of "Minami is dumb" from the last 17 chapters, it doesn't even feel consistent - I certainly don't have that "a-ha" moment that now everything makes sense.

My feelings exactly. It's like what my old writing professor would say about "joke" stories. If you set something up that depends so heavily on the eventual reveal, you're basically creating a joke. The entire framework of your story now depends almost entirely on the punchline and if the punchline isn't deemed worth it the entire story falls apart for the reader. This punchline didn't work for me. Not only is it too late and not very explanatory but it's also so standard.

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This is fun. Vampire urges and human "urges" mixing together. Eventually they'll figure out which is which.

This is keeping in line with the atmosphere of the one-shot.

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Actually, is it just me who's surprised by how it seems like everything just went back to normal after their near-death experience with the demon? It felt palpably dangerous and was super exciting! And it seemed like both the main characters underwent genuine character growth, and that their bond was made so much stronger by this shared experience...

I think their bond has been made stronger. Does it seem weaker? There's been nothing to test it until now.

So, what exactly was Makino's endgame here, Rina is just as gay she is, and seems she wont get her money cut off, so if the dude hadnt had a gay awakening, how else would she have gotten the dude to back off?

Unless the actual plan was to get Rina to scare him away.

Honestly, he had no power over her. I think she did what she wanted: pushed him out the door, flipped the middle finger and ran lol. She 'promised" only to introduce him to someone and she did that, then ditched. After that he'd be shit out of luck or she'd likely get more hilariously aggressive but not much he could do besides whine. He really wasn't much of a threat.

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Typical big brother behavior: always starting shit and being a pest. Time to meet the family, woo them with your drinks, then get their blessing for the marriage. Also time to fight for and be defended by, your girl.

As was shown in these previous chapters, we're going fully into the world of oni and that's awesome but it looks like Naori and Hinata will have to stand strong together for their love. At least they have two other members of the family who know of their relationship and should be in their corner.

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Withholding affection from your partner as punishment or to “teach them a lesson” is a sure-fire way to destroy your relationship long term. In my opinion.

Where is there a mention of a punishment? She's genuinely not as physically affectionate. She's been like that since she showed up. She's just acting as she normally does.

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The plot thickens. Does that one-panel flashback imply that Nan has had a messy break-up/divorce and a kid who went to live with her father?

No, I wouldn't say so. The woman shown is older, with darker brown hair and the child has Nan's hair color. Still an important memory for her though, considering when she remembers it.

I have chucked it up to lighting, but assuming this is true, another theory is that the girl in that flashback is Nan, and the adults are her neglectful parents or a neglectful parent with a new paramour. Maybe even an abusive parent figure, judging by the band-aids on the girl's arm and leg?

Yeah, it's important since she says that her views on love are based on or affected by these past traumatic experiences. So as you said, more plot to help explain why she might be so adverse to falling for our little devil's affection.

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The plot thickens. Does that one-panel flashback imply that Nan has had a messy break-up/divorce and a kid who went to live with her father?

No, I wouldn't say so. The woman shown is older, with darker brown hair and the child has Nan's hair color. Still an important memory for her though, considering when she remembers it.

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So it was Rina. I hoped for a quicker resolution (like this manga normally does) but didn't expect the sudden gay revelation! I'm glad they did make him a comedic joke in the end because his "I say we're engaged, so we're engaged" thing could only be taken as a joke. And I guess it's true that the mom is the big bad and maybe this guy will be the ally I thought he would or maybe he'll just disappear.

Finally, Makino passed the test with flying colors and now Satou feels comfortable enough to admit her love! It was already clear that Satou loved her but just wasn't confident in Makino's decision making yet--so the promise. And once again Makino's scumbagness is overblown. She's just "messy" but she is normally nice, especially to Satou. They love each other unconditionally. Now I'm just interested in what shenanigans the mom is up to.

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This series is magic. Complete trust in it's ability to stick it's landing. There's not much ground left to cover anyway, so 4 chapters and 1-2 special chapters should be more than enough. Love their relationship and how it's slowly developed over time as Sena's psychology has developed alongside.

[Talk Removed, sorry]

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