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Vanbun
I read your comment that was before mine.. you pointed many crucial points amongst them: SECRETS.. everything about your comment is on point.
I specially like these:

you're going to say Sumin? Your heart unconsciously felt safe when seju is around. Will you acknowledge it?
Another fun fact..
1. sumin said she will be going if seju is turning back.. seju did turning back but sumin still stays...
2. sumin once again keeps another secret to sungji...

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Hmmm.... And you're never puzzled. XD Interesting....

hehehe.. yes it happens more often than you think XD.. you gotta see me reading a chapter once it come out.. I stutter my words XD
I was puzzled for a long time about what Saehyun once told Sumin:"the compensation was not the money.. you were also given the opportunity to take revenge on Seju" .. I got that maybe only 2 months ago.


Nothing that I hate more than a lazy reader disrespecting a well done, thought through and touching piece of work.. ignoring panels and deviating from the essence of what the work is about is annoying beyond belief. Those are the same who say: ah, she must moveee on.. toxic toxic.. main couple.. ooh protagonist vs antagonist.. let Spiderman save the world !!! Team Gaji are bad writers !!
okay honey, you can go back reading Maka Maka.. matches your taste perfectly !.. and don't kid yourself, you read it for free, so throwing tantrums or threatening to drop the Manhwa is really ridiculous and I can't say narrow minded, because of the lack of "mind" in this !.. do yourself good already, and drop it. Team Gaji won't go broke if you stopped reading the unofficial version anyways XDDD

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hlama

The ugly colorless flower may be white eustoma. Flower's meaning is unchanging love. Cancer sign's protecting flower. Hmmm

well done research here.. NICE. XD
Sumin's sign is Cancer

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I still thought she was referring to the bartender incident, since that was her biggest and most obvious mistake. I guess that's me not overthinking it. XD But I understand where you're coming from.

I am not saying you are wrong or anything.. but the way I look at the bartender incident is as a trigger but not the fundamental mistake.

I've always wondered what Sumin meant after Seju said that in chapter 64, "Even if I wanted to go back, it's not the time we're both thinking about." What time would Sumin really want to go back to?

this one is also puzzling me along side that last panel of the same conversation

On another note, if anyone reads the WDTFS fan Facebook page, the comments are frustrating... People really didn't read this story closely or are just letting their bias blind them from seeing the good in every character. There are some more understanding comments at least.

I am at peace now with what they think.. I share my ideas and perspective.. knowing two facts for sure:
1. this Manhwa is not for everyone.
2. our opinions don't change the ending nor the story as a whole.

and how will it be a shocking plot twist if no one will be shocked XD ?

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Good God!!! ch50 and this chapter are more interrelated than I thought

http://imgur.com/a/hRPuz

look at the striking similarity

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Haha, true. I read it as the bartender one, because Team Gaji supposedly also said Seju made that "mistake" years ago, if I am not mistaken.

I remember also the bed talk in ch64 http://imgur.com/a/dlCOH.. Seju mentioned a mistake.. was it drinking? giving up on Sumin? not getting that Sumin was dealing with inferiority complex? or she means Sumin's mistakes..

Congratulations on graduating!!!! Well deserved and this chapter serves as a nice present. :)

I have no idea why do they celebrate graduation before it actually happens.. I mean it ain't over till it's over, right XD .. Thank you a lot

hlama

Oh, I see. I thought sumin meant being indifferent of Seju in her dream. Thanks for the clarification.

we are so sorry.. we tried our best.. such a mistake should not have happened, it's a contextual mistake where I should have paid more attention to it.. I will try to reach Meow chan to help in proof-reading if Anonymous__ agreed.

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dammit, I talk too much.. I thought I am an introvert, guess I'm not

You are not talking... just typing.... and some people becomes more open and talkative when they type/write, especially the introvert one.

today it was my graduation ceremony.. I left at the middle of it XD.. and they were drinking and stuff at 12:00, BBQ later at 3:00 p.m.. but meeeh, naah.. at 11:30 I was already at the library XD.. they should type the ceremony next time.. so I could enjoy the party too XD

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Something else I noticed, but you probably did too: Seju says "You don't know. That's why it's called a mistake."
Bartender reference again I assume?

I held my horses in this one.. because I could think of three mistakes at least.. and also I don't know who is she referring to, Sumin's mistakes or her's XD.. overthinking argghhh

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Just remember: Seju's reaction to arranged marriages and now in this chapter's flashback.. "I don't plan on getting married unless it's you"

while Ms. Choi told Sumin: "sorry, I can't stay single forever" ch33

Ms. Choi, wanted nothing from Sumin but to be by her side (in addition to another person, a husband)
while Seju: wanted nothing but Sumin.. to be by her side.. and NO ONE else.

dammit, I talk too much.. I thought I am an introvert, guess I'm not

last edited at Jul 8, 2017 2:31PM

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LustGreed

And also, I BELIEVE IN YOU NORA89 if ever you're going to make a church/cult/whatever..please count me in..looool I know I'm always on the right path whatever the outcome is..XD

heheheh your comment cracked me up XD

Vanbun

Both sungji and sumin demand that monogamous thing... what a pity that threesome won't be happening... what a shock! ;D

hehehe.. my God, that will be wrecking to Sungji.. we have seen ch55 XD otherwise, Sumin will have to bottom WAY more than she could tolerate.

Somehow I feel sungji demand sumin to break her bonds/ties with seju too (ch 77), which I doubt sumin can do that. What sumin did right now is keeping both, while dating sungji. If the times has come for sumin to really choose between the two, which girl will she let it go?

Sungji admitted her inability to do/demand such a thing. But then that will also justify Sungji's following move.

hlama

Artist needs to color the flower!

well, they might be the same color as the wallpaper (the twigs are colored) .. did you notice that Sumin's and Seju's boobs are significantly bigger this chapter XD

Sumin please don't forget to put the pillow and blanket back before Sungi comes again :|.

hahahahah XDDDD

Can Seju become indifferent? No way. Recent chapters are so agonizing.

ah, I think Anonymous and I forgot to correct the pronoun.. Sumin meant: I still have bad dreams about "it" -> the PTSD (the abduction)
so being indifferent/numb is meant to be about the (abduction, assault) not towards each other.

Next chapter will be hospital chapter, hopefully we can see chairman die (nothing against you, chairman, it is just for the plot's sake). Lately, I keep thinking of this song when I see Seju or Sungi, one of them seriously needs to do this

even if he doesn't die.. at least they will visit the chairman together.. something they never have done before.


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I agree. That dream tells much about seju's subconscious. She doesn't want to have sex with sumin but to make love. Lol. She wants sumin only and to be the only one for sumin

EXACTLY.. she knew it and felt it in ch55.. (it means everything in every way..) the way Sumin responded, her confession and what they meant to each other.. they can't go back to being friends with benefit ever again.
I talked about the significance of the sex made in ch55.. and WHY it was not only just to break Sumin and Sungji up. (there is a feeling that Sumin gave up 10 years ago.. there is a feeling that Seju didn't feel for 10 years.. making love.. while you feel loved and safe)

Because she is a lot like Seju? Only, she loved seju more.

and she knew.. Seju is the only one who will hold her even if she is nothing but an empty shell (ironic, Seju never viewed Sumin as an empty shell.. but as drained from a love that she can't give or receive ch27)

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MY GOD!!.. another hint on why Sumin got reminded by Seju when she was with Ms. Choi.. ahh how didn't I see this earlier!!!
ch17 + Ch 86
http://imgur.com/a/V9zw3

remember that Sumin wanted to give Ms. Choi something for the 100th Day.. (similarity to the ring) and her reaction to it.. no wonder later on Sumin was reminded by Seju and the bartender incident.

now we are back at ch50.. dream sequence. For Sumin, Ms. Choi is somewhat a version of Seju (a CEO, similar physical appearance, wants Sumin to be by her side and that's all).. but
Sumin said: "it's different"
Ms. Choi:"what's it?"
Seju:"Sumin, sometimes it feels like you are still in love with me" (in an embrace)
Sumin:"yes, you are right"


please try to understand the significance of Ms. Choi in Sumin's life.. why is she one of the most significance ex'es.

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From Seju's nightmare and reaction to Sumin's advances.. Seju WILL NOT ask for sex.. or "trick" Sumin into it.. she won't allow it unless Sumin and Sungji break up. AND Seju will demand a monogamous relationship with Sumin

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LustGreed

IN SEJU I TRUST! Even if Sumin doesn't. How many more chapters before she'll realize all these.

yes.. keep trusting in her.. and believe me, the current pacing is well planned.. and is still justifying and connecting past to present and also current to previous panels. I was shocked when I saw the marriage thing.. because I knew it was mentioned subtly in ch33.
remember!
we still have a couple of issues.. but at least we know that Sumin and Seju are going out next chapter.. probably Sumin would notice something in her backseat XD.. there is also ch53, ch11.. the ring (Sungji's and Seju's) + Sungji's move + the father's will

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I don't know know if suminxsungji will beat that chemistry, love and MEMORY, but if they do, it will take a bloody hell of time.

they won't.. because they were never designed to have it.

While the flashbacks were very promising, for me, the present situation is still somewhat heartbreaking when seju talks about not letting go and holding on to memories. I will take sumin's words about one day they will not be able to see each other again. She's still holding her ground and i'm gonna wait until she does otherwise. Until then.

because Seju still have the rings.. she still keeps the promises (oaths) between them.. she still keeps her word at the hospital.. she will wait till the day she dies.. and she trusts Sumin to be by her side. Sumin knew what she meant.

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correction:

Since most of the readers rely on the unofficial translation, I am happy by Anonymous keeping the translation consistent with regard to (jagi= darlin)

Seju didn't use "Jagi" but another word used between married couple "Yeobo".. however, I still stand by my opinion.. ch81 and 80, Sumin's was having flashbacks :D

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mpgpeg Thank you a lot.. the moment Foxy lady saw the new chapter she said:" I'm not overthinking and you are not delusional" hehehe.. for me now, the shocking plot twist will be if Sungji ended up with Sumin.. that would shock the hell out of me XD

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so now.. the image is clearer more than ever about many many scenes that we saw before.

  • Sumin did leave the room at first.. but came back and was there when Seju woke up.. why?

that's because Sumin herself suffered from PTSD.. 10 years ago.. look closely at this panel: http://imgur.com/a/thqz7 .. drunk Seju, did that remind Sumin of how it was for her back then.. alcohol and women as a coping mechanism to overcome her PTSD and the associated nightmares.. she needed someone to be next to her when she wakes up. that's why Sumin said this: http://imgur.com/a/28AjX ..
btw, the flashback in ch72 is Sumin's.

  • Sumin: "I just feel that everything that happened to you is my fault"

does Sumin mean: breaking the promise of them going to the states together and getting married, the promise of trusting each other, or staying by each other's side? http://imgur.com/a/v69IY
everything happened in the past 10 years is a domino effect of breaking their promises.TRUST

  • NOW, we know what the ring means.. it's a promise between the giver and receiver to trust each other and be by each other's side.. you know who keeps both rings now? it's Seju keeps them!

Foxy lady once attracted my attention to a very important panel: ch25
http://imgur.com/a/R1M8i

Seju keeps both rings, her's and Sumin's.. Seju still keeps the promises.. and as Foxy lady said, she HAS to give Sumin's ring back again. No wonder Seju made this remark in ch33: http://imgur.com/a/DAolI
she was telling Sumin: I still keep the promise you gave me during our college days. (by the way, the ring was given even before they had their first sex)

  • Since most of the readers rely on the unofficial translation, I am happy by Anonymous keeping the translation consistent with regard to (jagi= darlin)

NOW, you know for sure that ch80, ch81.. Sumin was really having flashbacks.

  • once more in the flashback: SUMIN'S insecurities!! and Seju said it loud and clear that all she wanted was to have Sumin by her side. http://imgur.com/a/M3vAw

I hope by now you understand why was it so devastating for Seju when she saw Sumin losing her ring and ridiculing it in ch10.. it's because Seju knew what it meant to Sumin.. and knew that it resembles promises.. and once she saw Sumin losing it.. she felt already as if they are over.
http://imgur.com/a/EpDiC

phew.. my mind is boiling..

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LurKings

Where to find the version you proofread?

I can't post the link, against the forum rules.. but it's easy to find.

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Very good point. It makes more sense now.

this chapter tells aloooooooot alooot.. I will be back with an organised idea

hlama
yes, the flowers in Seju's room are colorless XD

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the proofread is DONE :D.. thanks again Anonymous__


you will also know, why Sumin was so in shock when Sungji called her "Darling".. that's another proof about what I claimed to be a flashback in ch81 sex scene (everytime Sumin had a weird facial expression)

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even in Seju's dream.. she didn't want to give in having sex till Sumin told her that she broke up with Sungji .. (sorry Team Blonde, Seju's evilness is not up to your standards this time XD)

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^
I don't want to spoil this one .. it will be out soon.. just hang in there

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it is a dream.. and a very very important flashback !
a promise that Sumin made.. and you will know who gave the ring.. and what it means

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AMAZING CHAPTER

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Foxy lady

You remind me of K3n with the "Miss" thingy

heheh.. I love K3N's sense of humor sometimes.. but she does respects you a loooot.

They are rare in real life.

the boobylicious part, the pink head or the Sugar mommy thing ? XD

Nora89
WDTFS fans - off topic 08 Jul 06:31
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Those sound like great ideas for tattoos! Very abstract, especially the reflected one and the maze.

hehe I have some crazy ideas too.. in general, anything simple but so mysterious will be a candidate.. however, no matter how much I love a person, I wouldnever tattoo any names, innitials, birthdays of them on me XDDD
hlama

Haha, cool ideas. I just need to fit a cat in there somehow.

mmhm black & white, watercolor style.. but maybe glass colored eyes XD

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A part of me would be surprised, because of all the previous analyses and due to the fact that the concept of "forever" has been hinted many times with Seju and Sumin. (Even the tattoo is a big one, Seju will always be with Sumin.) But a part of me would not be surprised, given everything that has been said already about the "initial" and "most popular" pairing.

that's one of the reason I find it rediculous to think that Sumin and Seju would ever be friends!.. from the begining till now.. in the better and the worse.. they view eachother as the only refuge and (fated).

Foxy lady

Norah
Hmmm... I can't believe you will feel insulted. By your deep understanding of WDTFS, you should know that Sumin's character is the focal point of the story. The readers await her answer, What does the fox say. Damn, there is strength in her weakness.

yes Miss, the problem is.. when you call me Sumin, make sure I have her attitude and maybe a pink head boobylicious babe waiting with accourate devotion.. cars, an aparatment and a nice job.. sigh sigh.. I wasted my life not finding a suger mommy XD