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Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Are lewd routes in wholesome games a thing now?

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I just don't understand how the quality of published media deteriorated this quickly on such a widespread scale. Once upon a time we used to understand that Mary Sue was, like, a bad thing? Something that should only be found in bad fanfiction? And yet a genre that only exists for the purpose of writing Mary Sues is now the most popular, mainstream genre in the wn/ln/manga/anime bubble. How did we collectively forget that this isn't good writing?

Oh, I find it very understandable that the demand for pure wish-fulfillment escapist fiction skyrockets in a climate of alienation, uncertainty, and impending existential gloom, especially among the young people who begin to comprehend a) how screwed they all are, b) that it, for the most part, wasn't up to them, and c) that there is very little they can do about it at this point.

last edited at Nov 20, 2021 4:37AM

Koveras
Summer Love discussion 20 Nov 04:32
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Edit: I just reread this and noticed the bit at the bottom of Page 32 is referencing the beginning...
AHHH MY HEART

Yukino had planned out her romance all along. :3

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I've always hated the almost parasitic nature of most systems in Chinese stories; appearing from nowhere and latching on to a person, going 'Host this' and 'Host that'; compared to the world-wide systems or silent personal programs you see in japanese novels and manga. It's even worse when they pop up in the middle of the story with no preamble.

Perhaps the parasitic system pestering a free-willed person into behaving a specific conformist way is a artistic expression of or, god forbid, a metaphor for something in the authors' lives. :-)

last edited at Nov 19, 2021 6:22AM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Dat twist ending tho.

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

3 is not even a swim suit. get that shit out of here

You're right; we should all vote for it to make the Demon King suffer.

Being Demon King is suffering.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I have no idea why Japan has this reserved culture though. Does anyone know where this came from?

Not a specialist on Japanese cultural history, but from what I've read, the Japanese society is generally extremely conservative, having been a rigidly regimented hierarchy isolated from the outside world for centuries prior to the (very recent) modernization. The country has been (nominally) liberal and equal-opportunity for less than 80 years (3-4 generations) at this point, so a lot of everyday interactions between regular men and women are still governed by old traditions or at least preconceptions, like that a woman must marry (a man, natch) before she is 25, so the only reason she enters the workforce is to find a husband. Despite all this pressure, traditional courtship rituals assign to her a strictly passive role, so a mixer is in a opportunity to signal her availability without violating "propriety" (i.e. to avoid slut-shaming) by hiding behind a collective presence (that's why it's a group event) and to give the men ample opportunity to initiate courtship during or after the event.

From what I've read, however, even this doesn't really help the Japanese society at large to keep the marriage and birth rates from falling. It's almost like an abundance of obsolete social rituals and norms produces endemic neuroses that make it hard to emotionally engage with other people, let alone with people of the opposite sex...

last edited at Nov 17, 2021 8:14AM

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

The vampire outright tells her that her kind hates garlic, and the the moeblob goes and buys a whole dish of it? Like, how self-absorbed and inattentive must a person be to miss all that? :-/

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

There is a weird charm to educational pieces whose practical examples have just enough continuity for the readers' brains to start connecting the dots, but not enough to actually form a complete story. It gives us the touchstones and then let us image our favorite story around them, one that no actual, written-down story can ever match in emotional impact.

last edited at Nov 15, 2021 2:25PM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Huh, so the isekai'd villainess is intentionally sequence-breaking by being nice to the heroine, and the system doesn't know how to handle it and instead pulls up story events that should have come much later in the plot (like her getting exiled after she had actually committed a crime)? In that case, respect to Yvonne for sticking to her guns despite being hurt by the very world she inhabits. No wonder Elsa ends up falling for her instead of the actual LIs -- a willpower like that is helluva attractive...

last edited at Nov 15, 2021 6:45AM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

The source material... was definitely not what I was expecting lol

I've tried googling it, but I only found a dress-up game that looks like Pixar movies, which doesn't match the art posted by @Norainhere at all, so I am not sure that's it. :-/

It is the dress-up game lol; here's the wiki page for the elf lady: https://dress-up-time-princess.fandom.com/wiki/Salvia

Aah, I see. Thank you for clarification. :-)

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

The source material... was definitely not what I was expecting lol

I've tried googling it, but I only found a dress-up game that looks like Pixar movies, which doesn't match the art posted by @Norainhere at all, so I am not sure that's it. :-/

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Kissing is the number 3 cause of spontaneous lesbian teen pregnancy after mahjong and IPS cells.

I really would have expected handholding to be in the number one spot...

Handholding cannot cause pregnancy by itself. It's just lewd.

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Yaoyao is already getting so intimate with the general huh…

Oh yeah, she is definitely all over her. :D Still, while I agree that she is attracted to the young general, I think it is also a kind of self-defense. She obviously feels extremely vulnerable surrounded by angry cultists and enemy soldiers, and Lin Xiao is the only person so far who openly committed to her safety, so clinging to her may be her way of signalling to everyone "Mess with me and you'll make General Lin angry!"

Also definitely gotta add “you can die standing up or lying down” to my vocab lol

The Imperial Guard dies standing. In other words, the guy should listen to Lin Xiao, not to her dad.

last edited at Nov 4, 2021 5:54AM

Koveras
SHY discussion 02 Nov 02:43
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Just put on the ring, ending with a yandere isn't so bad after you get used to it.

She will turn into monster if she put on that ring, remember the first girl?

I am not sure about that. Shy has already confronted and de-ringed two Almareiks. While those instances happened when she was transformed, there have been hints throughout the series that it's not the transformer gadget that makes her a superhero, but her fiery spirit, so to speak. As such, I wouldn't be too worried if she does put on the ring, but rather very interested in how the two would interact. I.e. whether the ring will simply be destroyed or rendered inert, or the Shy would somehow appropriate its power and incorporate it into her arsenal of abilities.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Oh and your statement would apply to not only Astra But Liane as well wouldnt it?

Yes, I am pretty sure that Liane is set up by the story as the new generation's Astra: someone who will rise from humble beginnings to a position of respect and authority on merit alone. This is what makes her rivalry with Glamor so emotionally charged, as Glamor reasonably expects that she will be her dad's successor.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

except that the Japanese pop culture has taught us that anything vaguely Christian is always evil, regardless of how benevolent it looks at first glance.

Nah, DQ taught me churches are great.

What's DQ? Don Quixote?

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Fun fact: You usually appear much more attractive to another person who loves you than you do to yourself.

In other news, epic credits are epic.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Astra best dad.

If it turns out he's a politician who amassed a ton of power and is popular just by being a generally good dude, it will be the biggest reversal in manga history. I can see now why he's so popular

On the other hand, isn't that how angelic politics are supposed to work? Angels are supposed to be embodiments of goodness and order, except that the Japanese pop culture has taught us that anything vaguely Christian is always evil, regardless of how benevolent it looks at first glance. If you disregard that preconception, is there anything surprising in a "generally good dude" rising through the angelic ranks to a position of respect and authority?

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

What a mess, the doctor literally tried to set her up and our girl still almost failed

How high is her Uselessness stat, do you reckon?

Koveras
SHY discussion 29 Oct 09:30
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

shy getting a harem

SHY has been building out her harem pretty much from chapter 1.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Hey, maybe the sketchy politics can be justified since it's an Otome game, not a "historically authentic" fantasy game.

Maybe, but only if the devs had tweeted a solemn JPEG apologizing and explaining how their game is not political at all. :-)

last edited at Nov 2, 2021 2:39AM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

So, Bai Xinxin was a streamer who got transmigrated into this game world, and was trying to save Lan Sha (alongside herself) from the myriad of tragic endings, but Lan Sha is being controlled by an outside person in the “real world”, who just so happens to look exactly like Lan Sha.

So this isn’t a world based on the game, she’s literally trapped inside the videogame, and she’s trying to romance the player insert character who is controlled by the outside person… This is gonna be complicated.

What fascinates me more is that there are apparently two versions of the same game in the "real" world, one where you play the princess (which Bai played) and one where you play the witch (which Glasses plays right now), but neither player was aware of the respective other version prior to this chapter.

see, here's the thing I dislike about Chinese manhua: the logic progression of the story is just, ehhh at times. It's like they expected the readers to understand the information all of the sudden but without in-depth explanation. It's kinda like info-dumping but not. I suspect it's something to do with all the random jumping between scenes, it just feels so abrupt.

Honestly, I prefer that to the exposition dumps found in 95% of fantasy mangas that feel compelled to explain the the whole setting, history, and magic system on the first page of the first chapter. That said, this comic is way too disjointed for my tastes, as rather than piecing together just one thing (setting, plot, or characterization), it forces me to juggle all three at the same time.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I completely understand why she did that
But also HOLY FUCK that's not cool

What you said, word for word.

last edited at Oct 26, 2021 4:21AM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Also, a bit late to the party but in regards to types of revolutions As much as I enjoy this series I'll definitely say that the politics behind most of these things are pretty sketchy, Inori sensei seems to have a pretty (standard) myopic vision of politics that basically starts and ends with the modern japanese state. I'm still waiting for some solid anti-capitalist yuri, I know it's out there somewhere.

Inori-sensei is just one of many romance writers who try to spice their romance with political machinations without understanding how different kinds of power arrangements and long-standing structures work. Then again, I cannot imagine that the Japanese publishing industry is too keen on biting the hand the feeds it by publishing actual anti-capitalist content. Limitations of the medium, I guess.

EDIT: About a year ago, there was a guy named Kirin around here who also loved this topic... I bet he could've written a novel on this thing alone. :D Sadly, he hasn't posted anything since January, and I wonder what happened to him...

I try not to think too hard about the implication of "you saved me" because it's probably something along the lines of "you were in a videogame I liked when my life was miserable", and that just strikes me as stupid, but I guess this sort of thing comes with the genre. I can't seem to be able to fully ignore it though :P

I do not think it is stupid to latch on a person, even a fictional one, as a beacon of hope when you are on the edge of just giving up on life. Whatever helps you get away from that edge and starting to feel alive again is fine by me. I personally have never experienced such attachment to a character, but I imagine that if I did and then got to meet them in person, I'd feel pretty much the same way as Rei.

last edited at Oct 25, 2021 6:43AM