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Image Comments 04 Sep 00:44
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^You do know she is 19, right?
Edit: The comment I responded here is gone, lol. It was basically "she is a child, Tracer, a child".

last edited at Oct 11, 2017 11:19AM

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joined Sep 6, 2015

You were saying, SF?

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joined Sep 6, 2015

This is pretty neat.

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joined Sep 6, 2015

This manga is so confusing. I expected quite a lot from this artist. Somewhat disappointed. Till the end I couldn't tell if she was into the other girl or not.

This. Only by the end of it, my impression was that she was not into the other girl. She does not contemplate being attracted to girls, is not shown as such in any way, and does not show any signs of being interested in Nozomi specifically, in a romantic and/or sexual way. To me, it literally looked she raped her out of frustration over herself 'stepping into adulthood', so to say, while her best friend showed zero interest in these things, and thus she feared they will grow apart, someone will be "left behind" and whatnot. This fear and frustration leading her to basically assault Nozomi.

In fact, all her thoughts on the matter seem mostly het. She is obsessed with the image of having a boyfriend (even asking Nozomi this, right before the rape, like, not a 'lover', a 'romantic interest', a 'girlfriend', 'me', no, she seems single-mindedly obsessed with boyfriends), considers her first sexual experience as a sort of social triumph, despite it being painful, and at no point does she think of it as a mistake, nor does she expand her list to include girls, or even contemplates such a thing. She also genuinely seems to think "it did not count" between them. Even when Nozomi manages to convey it does, in point of fact, count, her reaction was a warped feeling of happiness that her friend is no longer a virgin, zero thoughts spared to the fact she just had sex with another girl. This page is literally the only thing that stood out to me as 'she might be into her', but it was just not enough to cut it for me.

And as far as Nozomi goes, she too is not shown to be interested in girls, or anyone, for that matter, and is basically overpowered (though it seems more psychological than physical) into submission here. Sure, she thinks sex between girls is just as valid as the het version, but that does not necessarily mean she is into girls herself.

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"Kinda rape-y..." Looked very much like a rape to me. Told repeatedly to stop, in an obviously non-comedic-hentai way, was abruptly cut off each time, even the pain did not deter the main character, and the victim is visibly distraught at the end of it. I mean, sure, it was not a brutal beating down, but it sure as hell was not consensual in any way either.

Also, I really could not get the yuri vibe out of this one. At least my subjective impression was such. I honestly do not see the yuri. To me, the main character does not seem to be in love at all, more like she just wants to keep her best friend in an ever-changing social environment of adolescence, and her main concern really is exactly what she says it is, to not leave her behind. This warped way of thinking lead her to basically rape said best friend, in order for the two of them to be on a somewhat equal footing once again. At no point does she contemplate her het experience as a "mistake", or some such (she looks genuinely proud of it, once its social ramifications filter through her head, and this despite the fact it has been a really unpleasant experience), nor does she see herself having sex with Nozomi as, well, being genuine sex. "Practice" and all that crap, only here it looks like she genuinely thinks that (as opposed to various other stories where characters use this excuse to cover up their feelings).

Even at the end, when facing the fact it was not just "practice", her reaction was not "I love Nozomi", or "that guy was a mistake", or "what am I feeling", or even "oh my God, I did something terrible". No, instead, her reaction was being ecstatic. Not over the fact she just had sex with Nozomi, but because Nozomi was no longer a virgin. She looked positively giddy about the prospect of telling everyone her best friend was no longer a virgin. Like, what the actual fuck. Amusingly, her mind seems so warped, she just glossed over the "I don't know if we'll be able to stay friends" part like it was not said at all.

last edited at Sep 1, 2017 2:53AM

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I feel like I have read this kind of story a million times, yet I am still just as "awww, cute" as when I read the first one... yuri broke my mind...

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Image Comments 27 Aug 09:32
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I like how the embrace itself gradually goes from barely touching to really passionate as they get older.

last edited at Aug 27, 2017 10:20AM

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Could not get into this one. I usually like Jin's works, but this one was just too silly for my taste. Maybe if it was that sort of work, wtf tag, or something, I could have enjoyed it, but the combination of realistic setting and those few silly elements just felt jarring.

last edited at Aug 23, 2017 2:36PM

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Image Comments 07 Aug 10:33
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Yey, the Abyssals~

^Closest we have are the doujins that feature either Akagi, or Kaga, or both, becoming Abyssal ships (therefore, Wo-Class).

last edited at Aug 7, 2017 10:36AM

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Wow! So Kanata is the younger sister of the twins?!

Not only that, but upon re-reading Twin Sisters again she apparently has a twin sister of her own

LOL, I can see this going places~~

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Wow! So Kanata is the younger sister of the twins?! And the bully really is into her victim from "Pranking the Pranker"?!!
This is just too good, Mochi is so bloody awesome!

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Points 1 and 2 do not require the change of the family register laws, under those, it is perfectly legal for the husband to take the family name of his wife. It is just uncommon.

The restrictions placed on the royals are entirely the result of the Imperial Household Law of 1947. The changing of said laws would not affect the general public, since those laws are specific, passed to govern one specific thing, which is the Monarchy of Japan. Thus, any change to them would only pertain to the inheritance of said Monarchy, and nothing else.

As for point 3, that is why I phrased it as "bringing back adoption". Legally speaking, children of concubines were illegal. What made Taisho a viable crown-prince was the fact the Empress adopted him after he was born. Keep in mind we are talking about the father of the Showa Emperor, so this is not ancient history. Showa Emperor himself was urged by his court to take a concubine after his wife failed to produce a male heir, but he declined, and afterwards the Empress gave birth to two sons. Concubines were never a legal institution, they were just imperial mistresses, usually with ceremonial titles conferred to them at court. Hence why their children were adopted by the Emperor's wife. Mind you, do not misunderstand, I am not actually advocating this, merely pointing out that such a thing would be possible if the Imperial Family is allowed to adopt a potential heir. The question is how the public would view this. On the one hand, these are the modern times, as you said, on the other, this is Japan, which has a remarkable tendency to not evolve its mentality, and the practice of imperial mistresses was abandoned literally by the previous Emperor, Showa, whose own father and predecessor, was a child of one such mistress. I literally have no idea how such a thing would be viewed, but if there is any place on Earth where it would not surprise me too much, it is Japan.

So, on the one hand, amendments to the 1947 laws in these terms would actually bring back some of the more traditionalist elements, rather than something that could be viewed as more modern, and would, probably, appeal more to the traditionalists, many of whom as of late seek to revise much of the Constitution (informally called the MacArthur Constitution, since it was basically drafted by the Allies, you can see why more traditional elements would like to see it, and the 1947 inheritance laws, changed).
And since the laws of the inheritance of the throne are so specific, effectively governing just one thing, unconnected with every-day legal problems of ordinary citizens, I doubt their impact, however indirect, would be something worth considering.

This could lead to a whole off-topic snowstorm, so I will stop now...

last edited at Aug 2, 2017 2:28PM

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Morgan

Regarding the Imperial Family, there are a couple alternative solutions you are not taking into account. Keep in mind this is the oldest reigning dynasty in history, since the time of Emperor Jinmu (accession to imperial rank in 660 BCE), the same family has occupied the Chrysanthemum Throne. They got rather good at avoiding extinction.
Before the modern times, the male primogeniture was not a law, merely a custom, that was put aside on numerous instances. Several branches of the family were passing the throne back-and-forth between them, and Japan even had eight reigning empresses.
Now, the current, small-ish Imperial Family is the result of the 1947 laws, that: 1) removed numerous collateral branches (a previously viable pool of successors); 2) restricted the succession to male primogeniture (though, this was the same in 1889 version); and 3) made it impossible for an out-of-wedlock child to inherit the throne (before 1947, a son born to a concubine could inherit, in fact, the Taisho Emperor was one such example, being the son of the Meiji Emperor and his concubine, Sawarabi no Tsubone).
Note that a change to any of these clauses could result in solving the problem of succession, without any repercussions for wider public. Bringing back the collateral branches, no problem, it is just an extended Imperial Family. Changing the male primogeniture, also not a problem, the question of inheriting the Chrysanthemum Throne would hardly make an impact on such things as inheritance customs for private citizens. Or just bringing back the option to adopt (children born to concubines, like the Taisho Emperor, would be legally adopted, amusingly, by the wife of the Emperor).

Also, the family register, as far as I am aware of, does not actually require the wife to be the one to leave her old family, and join her husband's. It is merely a traditional custom, the law only specifies that both spouses have to have only one family name, and both are then counted under said family.
And as far as traditions go, it is not unheard of, even for Japan, for a family of the wife to adopt her husband, in order to continue the family name in lack of male successors of the blood. This is actually not that uncommon for the upper-class families.

In short, while I am absolutely certain that the Imperial Family will survive, and that the Japanese would be perfectly willing to alter a few laws to make it happen, should all else fail, I doubt any of that will have an impact on things such as same-sex marriages.

last edited at Aug 2, 2017 12:56PM

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I've never been a fan of those who try to back people into a corner. Its a dick move and really just shows that you care more about yourself than the other person. Especially after you hide your feelings for years and then get pissed when someone else actually has the guts to confess.

Relationships change and trying to hold things in to enjoy the current times will only work for so long.

This.

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I find her joining in on the study session as weird.

Because it was weird. Overhearing they will study together --> finding out Kuro invited Uta --> getting jealous --> literally laying in ambush --> sliding herself in. But she stammered a bit, so I guess it is cute. Fuck no.

I hate it, mostly because people around these characters in manga are often far too meek, or polite, to say them to piss off.

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Not liking the new girl. First all that "have you known each other for long" nonsense, like, what business is it of yours?? Overhearing Kuro invited Uta, and poof! She slides herself in.

"May I join you as well?"

Why does no one ever just say "No. See you tomorrow. Bye." ;_;
I really, really hate pushy characters...

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Image Comments 31 Jul 11:24
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This is disturbingly awesome. Or awesomely disturbing. Possibly both.

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Image Comments 31 Jul 07:30
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I third the motion. Abs are awesome~

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Shame, I expected the little sister's side to be consistent with the older one's. Seems like two unconnected one-shots that just share a common theme. Good stuff, nonetheless.

Also, I really like this page. They have swapped bodies, but those facial expressions still look very much like their own. Must be hilarious, to see your lover's expression on your own face, lol.

last edited at Jul 30, 2017 9:52PM

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How old is this doujin? I wonder if the author ever read this. Because some of the dialogue is word-for-word.

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Image Comments 29 Jul 21:23
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What yuri, this is just Assam teaching her how to blush like a proper lady of St. Gloriana~

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Image Comments 29 Jul 14:18
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You discover something new every day... THIS IS AWESOME!!
^^^They have a doujin?! Yes, please!

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That initial set-up ("Let me love you even if you don't love me") certainly is weird and unsettling but not so obviously toxic; it's the shift to "I can love you only if you don't love me" that's the real dysfunctional move.

Honestly, it is this aspect that had me seriously hooked to this series. Not only is it quite unique, it also has a really wide potential. This can go into angsty drama, or a heartfelt open romance, and anything in between. Touko certainly has somewhat fucked up view on love and life goals, thanks to all that effort to emulate her sister, but what sets her apart, at least for me, from similar characters, is that she also exhibits the capability for self-analysis. When confronted with information that does not fit her world view, she does not dismiss it, as happened when she found out about her sister. So, I have high hopes she will not outright refuse Yuu, at least not on a permanent basis.

This was a nice 'calm before the storm' chapter, with that resolve Yuu exhibited at the end, the current state of affairs is likely to go through turbulent changes in the near future. I really liked it. The feels in this one are great.

last edited at Jul 29, 2017 2:20PM

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SF
https://dynasty-scans.com/forum/topics/6606-shoujo-ai-vs-yuri It was slightly before your time.

Long story short, it is a term coined by westerners, and not used in Japan itself under that meaning. Many people here are not fans of it, especially when it is used to supposedly separate 'pureness' from more 'physical' stuff, as some like to use it. Also, as the links to Japanese Wikipedia pages in that thread will show you, they really do use shoujo ai as a synonym for lolicon.

So, good job on your research, and on not taking any of that discussion personally yourself. How about we all calm down now?

last edited at Jul 29, 2017 12:48PM

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Not a typical Jin work. The jump to silliness at the end felt kind of jarring.

Also, what is it with that clothes? I get that she picked it up from her aunt and Yae, but those two were delinquents (her aunt being openly stated as such, and Yae, being her friend, wearing the same long skirt, and being so confrontational, was probably one as well). Delinquents of an older generation, at that, so the clothing was normal for them. Why would she deliberately dress up as a delinquent, when she is not one herself, as shown so far? Plus, that kind of 'delinquent fashion' is dated by now, so if not taken as a delinquent, she would just be laughed at. What is the point? Plus, her feigning being all naive and clueless about why she is getting reprimanded for her clothes kind of makes me dislike her.

last edited at Jul 28, 2017 5:32PM