OK, I just noticed the kuudere tag. Kanna-chan doesn't seem cold so much as searching for meaning and her path in life. Yuu-chan is just plain aloof and a bit of a space cadet. she isn't cold, stoic nor hard-boiled.

so who's the kuudere character?

Maybe Kuudere has been mistaken to mean "spacy and unassuming" instead of "cold and unassuming"; 空デレ - which looks like it describes a spacy/blank dere - was my first impression too. クーデレ is the actual term apparently; what are the roots?

a quick lookup implies that the kuu ( クー) part may be a play on the English loanword クール ("cool"). after reading up a bit more on the dere-types, I "suppose" it could apply to Yuu's personality because she is rather cool and collected, but that's about as far as I see the archetype applying. in fact, I'd tag her personality as dandere because she is more shy and quiet than a cool beauty type.

So anyone else have any thoughts on who the kuudere character might be?

Btw, if I have made any mistakes or am completely wrong with my explanation for the origin of kuudere, then please correct me. And if anyone is interested in where I read up on the dere archetypes, here is the link: http://deluscar.wordpress.com/2012/01/02/a-guide-to-the-deres/

I'm back after a good sleep; I feel much better now.

OK completely off topic, how did you end up as a scanlator?

I learned enough Japanese that with some time and effort I could understand a manga in Japanese, Then I bought a manga that I couldn't find a translation for (Her World) and it didn't seem like there would be one. Then I got some old software that was capable of doing the editing and I started experimenting with it; the rest is history. Thanks for asking ciega. Also, the more I translate, the faster and better I get at reading Japanese.

you give me hope. I keep working on my Japanese, but get too easily scared/frustrated with taking too long/side-tracked to put it to any good use.

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I know that there isn't much that can be done, but it's really distressing when there is a knock down drag out going on in one of the threads (The Princess's Mirror discussion) and nobody else can post much. I've seen worse, and the participants are still (sometimes) making valid points, but it has pretty much hijacked the thread. I'm sure putting a guidelines of internet debate of guidelines of forum usage sticky thread up wouldn't have any effect, but I thought I would mention it anyway. Certainly nothing I could post would help.

Note: I'm not asking for the discussion to be purged.

I'd request some cleanup there. It really is hindering anyone from talking about how they actually enjoyed the story – it's all arguments that are pointing fingers at each others' stupidity, or pointing out every possible plot-hole in the first two chapters. It's highly unnecessary.

to play devil's advocate, I'd say give it another day or so. I think that once everyone has had their say and gotten all the ill will out of their system, the thread should calm down (not to mention it's been funny as hell to read). if not, some imp could come along and try to hijack, I mean redirect the thread to a more civil route of discourse. Just a thought...

there is a new work of ootomo megane, and one of rochuroichi, on yuri project,
for these, i'm set to wait the final version, instead to read the raws with the traslation apart, like i often do

As for Rokuroichi, you mean the works from the Girl x Girl Collection? That's the one I am most looking forward to reading.

Also, which Ootomo Megane are you referring to?

OK, I just noticed the kuudere tag. Kanna-chan doesn't seem cold so much as searching for meaning and her path in life. Yuu-chan is just plain aloof and a bit of a space cadet. she isn't cold, stoic nor hard-boiled.

so who's the kuudere character?

Hey, anyone else dreaming about maybe getting another chapter of Cirno and Reimu's One-Two-Three this year?

is that/are those characters from Touhou?

this is the one story I wish Urushihara-sensei would go back and complete. there truly are no words to describe the artwork and the premise of the story makes me think that a Chirality-like story was in the works, but somehow got lost in the mix. sigh... I wish, if only for a day.

I personally like the story and the characters, that is all. Otherwise I would be searching for another scanlation group to take it off my hands. (Actually, I wouldn't have started it in the first place if I didn't like it.) But I do like it so I'll keep doing it myself.

@Yuri Girl - to break some of the tension and take this conversation slightly... OK completely off topic, how did you end up as a scanlator?

Oh man, I forgot my most hotly awaited series at the moment, KASE-SAN!! How could I forget to mention something like that?

@Nezchan, hehehe... I forgot about Kase-san too and after I just reread all the chapters to refresh my memory.

along with Happy End, Collectors, and anything by Vivit Gray or Personal Color (Finish "Being, Becoming..." already!).

...Of course I'm also looking forward to the anime stuff as well, but I'm taking a more "wait-and-see" approach with those.

for some reason, I thought Happy End had been shelved. glad to know I am wrong. As for anime, blech, I just don't see any wow type stuff coming out so I agree with you on the "wait-and-see" approach.

I wish this will also be made into anime.. btw yuzu looks like lucy..

Lucy? is that a character from another anime/manga? if so, which one?

Naww man tbh you are 100% spot on

Kitty_Kat, you are way too gracious.

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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=15564

gah, I forgot about that site. i was whining yesterday about no good anime coming out in 2014. now I can go look up what is coming out. thanks for the reminder.

TBH I'm sort of "trade waiting" on Citrus, Girl Satellite and Flag time, so I can read them all in one shot and not chapter-by-chapter. More Sakura Trick would be nice and I'm hoping for Amber Teahouse: Gold and Silver Tips that got mentioned at the end of the main series. More Rokuroichi would be really nice and of course Takemiya Jin. I'd also love to see some more recent stuff from Mikuni Hajime.

Nezchan, I wish I had that kind of patience. Unfortunately, I'd most likely forget what I was reading.

So it "looks" like the most popular series/releases on the reader are the most anticipated. I sort of guessed that would be the case, yet threw this question out as bait to see if some unique titles might pop up. I guess thats not going to be the case. Or will it?

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How forgetful of me. Must be the aftereffects of anticipating said upcoming anime adaptations.

Anime adaptations.

Really? Have they released a date?

As the topic suggest, what are you most looking forward to reading once it is release and/or translated in 2014?

To start us off, I'm a sucker for Virgin's Empire, but I'm also patiently awaiting the next installments of Citrus and Flag Time. As for stories by particular mangaka, I hope next year is chock full of interesting and naughty stories especially by Amano Shuninta and Rokuroichi.

That was my list. What are you looking forward to the most?

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hmmmmm..... I originally shied away because of the loli tag, but after finally reading the story, both were really good. each story did not seem too outrageous.

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does anyone know if this is a completed series or ongoing. and if it is completed, how many chapters?

This is a doujin series, it's complete, and has five chapters.

thanks

For chie x Ai fans... > ///// <

@Kyub, you suck :-P

Thanks for posting. btw, which chapter is that from?

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after reading this, it kind of reminded me of the movie "Tipping the Velvet."

Yes! I was thinking the opening was very similar with how Diana picked up Nan. Such a good read, nice to find a fellow Waters fan among the crowd. :)

Oop, just noticed you saw it rather than read it.

yup. I found out about and saw the movie before I knew there was a book.

Nice, so this should also be age-gap huh?

ummm..... what exactly constitutes (as in by how many years) age-gap? not being snarky, just kinda curious.

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This is seriously good so far, I really like the idea of a more in-depth yuri character study. Should be a very interesting ride.

yup. it's different, but pleasantly different.

btw, does anyone know if this is a completed series or ongoing. and if it is completed, how many chapters?

http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax
Alternatively just google markdown syntax.

thanks :-)

after reading this, it kind of reminded me of the movie "Tipping the Velvet."

Sigh. Missed the point by a mile.

If that had been all we got, this wouldn't warrant 3 pages of comments.

On this forum.

no I understand what you are saying. just disagree with you. ambiguous still. room for a follow-up? sure. but hasn't happened.

ok, we get the extra pages. so, hope springs eternal... blah blah blah. OK, happy?

OK, that was a bit snarky. let me qualify why I understand your argument, but disagree with it.

1. f rom a first time readers point of view, we see and read dialogue where Koyuki continues to engage with Matsuri. However, Matsuri is going out of her way to avoid the poor girl. This is what I have described as futility on the part of Koyuki for pursuing a "straight girl." Does that ultimately mean that this (Matsuri being straight) is the case? don't know. From pages 21 to the end Matsuri is obviously disturbed by both confessions from the guy and Koyuki and in the case of Koyuki avoids her as clearly as possible.

2. now you on the other hand knew that extra pages were added from the original release in the magazine to the tank. I did not know that and learned something. thanks. so yes, you are correct. the author did go back to add some clarity to the situation. With this extra bit of info, we can guess that Koyuki has a fighting chance. will she ultimately get the girl? Meh, don't know. I will concede this one point that I missed the "end" label on page 22. once I saw it, I reread the story to see if it changed my conclusion. for me, it did not.

However, going back to why I replied to your post in the first place, please refer to point #1. We the readers are presented with a situation where at the end of the story, girl does not get girl. the extra pages just show one side of this equation waiting patiently (hence my hope springs eternal dig for which I apologize) and the other side that we don't know how they will ultimately react. next I rebutted your comment about injecting guys into stories mean that they (the stories) are heterosexual. nope. I think we can both agree that because it is in a Yuri anthology that that is simply not the case. finally, I stick to my guns about disagreeing with your initial points. I just simply did not agree with your statements. plain and simple.

again, thank you for this debate. it really was enjoyable.

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Ah, that's easy then! It's not a matter of adding anything, it's just a type of formatting.
Like, I can write "this" like this. You can write anything and format it that way with ` characters on the end. It's a rare character that typically sits on the same key as ~

aahh formatting. hahahahaa. should have thought of that :-)

well my request is simple, would it be possible to create a permanent topic that includes all available formatting characters or is that list too small and not worth the effort to do?

If that had been all we got, this wouldn't warrant 3 pages of comments. Girl tries to get her feelings across, succeeds, other girl shows promise, story done.

sorry, but I see three pages of avoidance. Koyuki even says that is sucks being avoided. also Matsuri is going out of her way to avoid Koyuki. What you are calling three pages of hope, I call futility ( more my opinion than anything else).

I refuse to believe that was ever the intention in the first place.

OK. we just have different opinions then.

This may already exist, but could what tags are available when posting in the forum, be place in a more common and easily found location? i hope this is not too outrageous of a request.

You mean like this? Drama
Sorry, I'm not good at reading comprehension.

yes, that is what I meant. I was not sure what they were called so I called them tags. btw, what are these "tags" called?

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Perception is a nice word, because my interpretation is founded on what you can actually see in the story. Manga is a visual medium, you cannot ignore visual cues.

This is true, which is why I used the word perception. how you interpret visual queues is different from how I have interpreted them. otherwise we would not be having this exchange. btw, I have based my argument mostly on the dialogue. which when in doubt or less doubt is a wonderful arbiter.

Yes, it kinda does. Now, you can subvert a genre, you can deconstruct it, you can have a bad end. But that isn't done off-panel. If the last panel in a yaoi story published in a yaoi anthology is two guys looking at the sunset, the implication isn't that they will start dating women and be bros4life. Unless you are a yuri fan obviously, because in their mindset, if you cannot see the Enterprise safely parked in space dock after warping away at the end of an episode, it obviously got eaten by a space dragon mid-flight. A straight, male space dragon.

Hahaha... Now I like what you are trying to argue, but I am merely saying that because the ending, and this ending in particular is ambiguous, we the readers are left to make up our own conclusions for how it ends. Unless... a follow-up story is written. Btw, who's to say that at the end of a yaoi story the two guys don't end up as bro's for life. it could happen ;-)

This isn't real life, it's fiction. Fiction uses tropes and symmetry. Her first game of wait-and-see, 'wasted energy and effort' wasn't endless or futile and this one won't be either. That makes immensely more sense to me as a story structure then

it is fiction, but reality often provides material and inspiration from which a story is crafted. and yes, a mangaka could very well write a Yuri tankoubon and have a one shot where btw, this one story has a Yuri character falling for a straight girl cuz gee, it can happen and this might make for an interesting story. But I can only speculate about that last statement and only point it out as an example.

Talvalis - thank you very much. this has been a most enjoyable discourse.

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