Oh for fuck's sake.

No the whining and frothing at the mouth of people about age gap again and "OMG she's a minor, she should only have sex with someone close in age, or better yet, wait 18. Or even 21. Or until she's married".

This is tiring and just makes a blanket witch-hunt on all age gap stories, even though some of them are really well thought out and beautiful. If you want to complain about age gap, go comment on Oshikko Sensei.

This is not a story condoning to sleep with a 16yo when you're 30something. The main character here is perfectly aware that it was a mistake and thought she was older. She was never in a position of authority over her, and the girl is at the age of consent of most countries. End of debate about the age gap.

I can see a trajectory in that story where both the woman and the girl heal and mend each other, through mutual attraction first and genuine love eventually. They already slept together. What's done is done. And I think the doctor isn't going to repeat that mistake.

Also, gorgeous art.

I agree 100%. It's annoying when people claim you should disregard the themes of a story because it focuses on an age gap couple. There doesn't seem to be anything predatory whatsoever about the relationship here.

It's a complicated issue. But I was 16 just a few years ago, and I can tell you that it would have been totally messed up for me to be in a relationship with an adult woman the way I was then. Just nowhere near the level of maturity required to make that work, and the same was true of all my friends. That's not to say that that sort of relationship couldn't work or to invalidate the feelings of people who have made it work, but I do think the guideline is reasonable considering what stage of development most 16 year olds are in. That said, I personally don't have any problem with age gap relationships in fiction unless they're shown to be a problem.

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The art is absolutely gorgeous. The characters don't look remotely Chinese though, lol.

In all seriousness, I was just thinking that Wei strongly resembles a Chinese friend of mine, especially how she's drawn at the top of page 4 chapter 4. Of course manga characters rarely look like normal humans.

I've heard of a cold open but this is like a cold close

I kind of had it in my head that these were all normal animals but the pet shop owner saw them as people and the half-human thing was just a metaphor.

I saw no hint the woman was delusional and 90% of everything we saw wasn't real but in her head - and it's not like cat girls aren't a very common anime manga thing so not sure what made you think that.

It's a non-literal interpretation. All of the character interactions in the story bring to mind how some cat-lovers perceive and imagine the thoughts of cats. It's not perfect, but its not as if the story makes logical sense as its told either.

We should think they are actually cats and dogs and not sentient beings.

Also, this world seem to contain only females.

And there's only 26 first-names for the whole population.

Cats and dogs are sentient beings.

Sapient, then. There are distinctions to be made. Cats and dogs don't deal in abstractions, for instance. So a cat can certainly know it wants to go out now and may be annoyed if it is hindered from doing so, but it can't want FREEDOM or be manipulated by catchphrases like "Give me liberty or give me death!" Cats and dogs are not moral agents. If a cat plays with a mouse in the process of killing it slowly, one fascinated pounce at a time, you can't say the cat is being evil or that it should have known better. It's just a thing cats do and that's that; if you feel for the mouse you can stop the cat; maybe with clever training and rewards and stuff you could even train it not to, although I have doubts, but you can't teach it why it shouldn't be doing that. If a human does something similar (and all too many do), you can say those things; in some cases you can even teach it to be a better person.
These "cats" in the story are capable of language, empathy, abstraction, apprehension about the concept of servitude; they are clearly a kind of being that abstract "freedom" could make a difference to. So there's no question what's being done to them is deeply ethically wrong. They are, however, both fictional and sexy.

All true, but people, cat lovers especially, often personify animals and mentally assign them those traits. Fictional depictions of cats and cat-like beings may depend on that perspective.

We should think they are actually cats and dogs and not sentient beings.

Also, this world seem to contain only females.

And there's only 26 first-names for the whole population.

Cats and dogs are sentient beings.

Now that I've reread this several times, I've concluded that this story is better thought of as being from the viewpoint of an actual cat in a pet store rather than a world where catgirls are sold as pets. From the perspective of a cat, growing attached to and cuddling its owner might be as emotionally intense as a yuri romance would be to human. Also the ending would be less of an ethical conundrum. Or not.

Libraries are so romantic

Did well at being fucked up but cute at the same time. Would have been sweet if B-ko wasn't just one of a bunch of other girls she bought. (Yes I know it's metaphorically representative of real life pet owners)

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See? Senpai was cool after all. The moment she told Yamada not to butt in whatever she had with Kase, she meant it in a competitive way (be it about sports or just to have some fun teasing, considering she already knew about Kase and Yamada o3o ).

Nah that makes sense. I was more trying to emphasize how EVERY insecurity Yamada has regarding Kase, turns out to be nonexistent.

What's the problem with that? Yamada's insecurity was caused by a false rumor to begin with. When they finally cleared things out, there's no point in digging any deeper. Everything is good when it ends good!

There's nothing problematic per se about any of this. It's a good series. What I'm saying is not that their relationship is flawless, it's that Kase is sort of an idealized romantic partner. It may be that I'm simply jealous.

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So the ex doesn't turn out to be an ex at all, nor is she a bad person. Great choice there, but I have to question how "perfect" Kase is portrayed to be. Every bad thing about her turns out to be not true; she has never been in a relationship, she is athletic and good looking, She is consistently cheerful or at least agreeable, and she is utterly and selflessly devoted to Yamada. It's an enjoyable story, but it feels as though it was written out of wish fulfillment.

I know people like this in real life. And really, with lesbians this has a higher chance of being totally realistic than straight couples --> never been in a relationship because real life lesbians that you happen to be attracted to are hard to find.

Now, as far as finding them to date them/getting them to like you in particular....well.... Hard to do.

Nah that makes sense. I was more trying to emphasize how EVERY insecurity Yamada has regarding Kase, turns out to be nonexistent.

So the ex doesn't turn out to be an ex at all, nor is she a bad person. Great choice there, but I have to question how "perfect" Kase is portrayed to be. Every bad thing about her turns out to be not true; she has never been in a relationship, she is athletic and good looking, She is consistently cheerful or at least agreeable, and she is utterly and selflessly devoted to Yamada. It's an enjoyable story, but it feels as though it was written out of wish fulfillment.

I can't wait. And if they don't get together, I will be very, very, disappointed.

Well, they certainly looked cute getting sweaty. Felt to me like lost potential, somehow--for how few panels there were before things got hot and heavy, it did such a good job of making me feel like there were actual characters and lovey feelings there that it seems a pity that it couldn't have been stretched a bit, turned into a love story with sex as punctuation rather than sex (and probably in future chapters, orgies) with a love story as window dressing.

Pacing was weird. Seemed like one second she was masturbating in her room, then the next she was suddenly in the infirmary having sex with that girl.

I am not a fan of embarrassing pet names between couples. I find them embarrassing.

Akko looks like kazama from sasameki koto here.

I don't want to rain on anybody's parade, but what is up with this "My heart is beating fast, therefore I am in love with this person" trope? There are far more explanations for heightened pulse than just love, and often the character saying this doesn't even know anything about the person they're supposed to be love with except how they look. It seems like an immature and overdramatic mindset.

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I have no words.

Why is Cool so fixated on the idea that Kobayashi would have sex with the women in her life if only she were a man?

In the afterward he was talking about Iruru wasn't he? Not Kobayashi? And Iruru wants to have kids, which is why she wants to turn Kobayashi into a man, I doubt she's aware of processes like IVF.

It's a bunch of things though, first Kobayashi suddenly being sexually aroused after being turned into a man a few chapters ago, then Kobayashi's "virginity" comment at the end here, then the editor's note saying if she was man, Iruru would have had sex with her. It's a pattern that's rubbing me the wrong way, but I see how all of these points are defensible in context, so hopefully I'm just reading too deeply into it.

Why is Cool so fixated on the idea that Kobayashi would have sex with the women in her life if only she were a man?

Impressive, Mira.

"If Kobayashi was a man, Iruru would have done her"
grumble grumble

This is not a crack pairing. Consult Orico Magica spin-off manga, or just take my word for it.

I feel like I've read that kind of stories a million times.

On the one hand, there's technically nothing wrong with this kind of story and it happens all the time in real life. On the other hand, this seems to happen every other yuri story and it's almost never enjoyable.

Now it's possible that the ending meant they will now have a secret relationship, but I have a hard time buying that.

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