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I'm so, so, so happy, Always Human is starting again. All hail walkingnorth, god bless yuri !

Galich, world boss page opener.

@ZuljinRaynor Shoujo Sect sucked from what I remember of it. Is Girl Friends any good? Strangely, I've never read it.

Girl Friends is now a classic among the yuri, even if I don't find it particularly good, I'd recommend it to anyone who likes yuri. The best yuri ever is for me Pieta, but to each their own I guess

ciega

Yes, Ergo proxy OST are hella good. It's surprising how some anime have awesome soundtrack, totally worthy of the music you'd find in a great film. Don't get why anime music are so underrated.

here's some great anime songs ... simply beautiful.

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I think I'm gonna read the manga Umibe no onna no ko, but if some of you guys already read it, could you tell me if it's worth reading, if it leaves a bitter taste. I don't want to waste 2 hours of my life reading a bittersweet crap w/ aansgt, (over)drama and an open ending

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Galich

My bad, I meant I've never met a trans knowing they were a trans, nor I have a trans friend or smth. But I must have met some sneaky trans indeed ^^

Glad to hear people finally refering to me by what I identify as, too bad I don't have such luxury irl.

Well, I may be too tolerant but for me it is absolutely normal. Acknowleding how a person identify as and acting in consequences feels natural to me .-. I don't get why people keep judging ...

SONG OF THE MOMENT(ergo proxy's so awesome<3 )

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Wait, you were a trans galich ? I fucking had no clue lmao.
That's cool, even if I've never met a trans in real life, dynasty is the only place I know where I can find trans easily ^^ (if I'm right, nez-chan and gweenie-chan are trans too).

Well I always figured galich was a woman, so I was right.

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I really like this serie. The drawing is awesome, and the main couple is so cute.
But Puyi please, go fuck urself.

The only german cake I know is the strudel thanks to Inglorious basterds lmao.

Galich

So, one of your friends was attacked by a dog, you've seen a man halved in the sub, you've been close to be killed while crossing the street many times ... do you live in a horror movie ?

I have some other avatars for dynasty, but I'm sticking to this one cuz I love it so much (I use it for almost every forum ^.^) Well why don't you post some of your unused avatar ?

Blackkitty

I wouldn't say "friend". You haven't seen Voyou (the name of my dog, which means thug) eviscerating and biting to death his cow and his other toys when it's mad lmao.

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Anon

Cute dog.
You're lucky if it's just lurking. My dumb dog spends his whole life doing stupid things, like barking at 5 am when i'm falling asleep, stealing my food, killing flying bugs, putting his toys everywhere ... but I somehow can't resist when I see it.
EDIT : Galich, new avatar from I'll bring you mille-feuille ? I love this anthology (more exactly, I LOVE My unique day)

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I did not like Sasameki koto at all, both the anime and the comic.
My favorite yuri of all time surely won't get an adaptation, that's a shame tho :(

Yes, there is a yuri vibe, and Kurau is good, but it's not really a yuri. Nana has a yuri vibe and it's not a yuri either (though I don't like nana).

I'm still hoping for an octave, hanjuku joshi, gokujou drop or even a girlfriends anime adaptation ... Maybe one day.

If he is into yuri anime, I'm afraid that he won't find anything good since nearly all of the yuri anime are garbage.

The only good "yuri" anime that comes to my mind is the awesome Simoun and it's not really a yuri, although it's an excellent serie.

last edited at Aug 13, 2016 4:14PM

Galich

As far as I know, Citrus doesn't have an anime adaptation, seems like your friend's mistaken.
That said even if there was a citrus anime, I wouldn't watch it since I hate citrus ...

Talking about anime, I finished Kabaneri, was average. I'm currently watching Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora, even if it doesn't look that promising, it's short so..

At least when it comes to cake and food in general, I can be proud of being an ectomorph. I can eat absolutely anything I want, I won't put on weight. Well, it's kinda annoying since I remain skinny despite eveything I eat .-.

Zujin

I hope nothing is wrong too. I wish her all the best.
If you had her on steam too, are you by any chance Aquasol or something like that (don't remember well, but I think there was an "aqua").

Eleanor

Welcome ! You can basically write about anything. And when I say anything, I mean anything ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).

By the way, did this thread lost .. 2 pages of comments ? Looks like someone deleted all of his posts (Miki, is that you ? T_T) She even unfriended me on Steam o_o anyone knows what's going on ?

EDIT : fucking hell, during the time I was writing my answer, Eleanor deleted their post as well, so ... beats me.

...

sorry

Remember, you guys are free (and welcomed) to join our discussion and to post anything you want.

Faust

Well it seems I was wrong, I had a doubt and I checked and he was not his husband, they were really close however. Doesn't change the fact he raped and killed something like 150 children ...

UBW will bring you all the answer, though you're gonna hate gil even more. And yes, he says himself at the end of F/0 that he was fully materialized, so it's as if he had been resurrected.

Z.Long

You're welcome. PMMM is indeed very deep, such a masterpiece.

On another note, I watched Jyu Oh Sei yesterday, it was interesting but kind of rushed, the opening roxx, tho. Gonna watch the entire Kabaneri of the Iron fortress this night, is it good ?

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Faust

Caster and his psycopathe buddy are so fucking funny. Though, as a french, I still feel bad that Gille De rais was Jeanne d'Arc's husband. Because it is now proved that he was a pedophile .-. feels bad man

Well for Gilgamesh ... first of all he is one of the most(if not the most) badass anime character I've seen. He stands out so much, and I like the way he views things. He isn't evil, he just considers himself as the king and the greatest/strongest guy on earth, and thinks that everything belongs to him. (which is not 100% false since he has nearly everything on his Gate of Babylon). He may seem arrogant, but when you know more about the fate serie, you learn that he was the first king of humanity and killed all the gods who ruled the world. If you kneel before him, he will protect you and treats you as good as a king would do, but if you dare insulting him or threatening him, he will grind you to pieces. I also like his way of thinking, that your only purpose in life should be joy/pleasure, regardless the form it takes.

Seriously, isn't he so badass.

That's a .. lot of gil, IKR.

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Alice

Yes, google translate kind of suxx, but it worked for me. I translated some part of the review with it, so even if it is sometimes inaccurate and google tr is dumb, the whole thing is still understandable. (I still corrected the biggest error it made)

BIG POST AHEAD.

1

Finally, this film appears to be a natural continuation of the TV series , and is not a purely marketing pursuit of commercial purposes only . There are chances that the scenario of Madoka Rebellion was thought upstream from the creation of the initial project , which gives it the greatest possible accuracy . Hypothesis can be corroborated by a statement by Gen Urobuchi , advancing relatively early hold specific leads to where direct the series, if success allowed to extend .

2

One of the moments when everything changes from an intellectual point of view, is none other than the reference to Freud's repetition compulsion, in the first "Fort Da" that sound. The need to repeat after failure. It is precisely this that applies to Homura, further repetition of his travels in time in the series, which adds more and more destiny bonds on Madoka's fate, looking after impairment of memory to find a truth she had yet leaked, creating its own self-insulated world where she lived happily (although upstream, she might have considered corrupting her Soul Gem to return Madoka). This also raises the paradox between the obsession of the search of the truth, and his desire to forget it once it's discovered. Also in the Freudian dimension, one finds the image of the coil during the evolution of the Soul Gem Homura, as the "baby" for the pet accompanying Mami. This is a reference to the grand-son of Freud, who was playing with a coil, a dolly, and pronounced "baby" at the return of her mother, through which Freud developed this theory.

3

There is in my opinion the prevalence of the status quo , as the series has always sought to do with this idea of balance between hope and despair , the game between light and shadow , omnipresent even during the serie, and crystallized through that mid- light and mid- dark moon that we see at the end. When homura gives back the ribbon to madoka,, accept the answer of her previous question, and the cohabitation of the Order with the Desire. This cohabitation is enshrined in the universal balance , and underlies the tensions inherent in each of us . Madoka and Homura represent the two sides of the same coin , the " movements " of humanity. Homura and Madoka also acquired something like a divine rank ( God - Devil - Yin - Yang - Order - Desire etc ...). The conclusion is thus seeks to highlight a lack of Manichaeism , nothing is all white or all black.

4

The scene where Homura grabs madoka who was coming to save her

The transition to adulthood happen . In pain , in a scene reminding of the final scene of " The End of Evangelion " : rape. Symbolic , certainly, like in End of Evangelion , but still rape , reflecting the fact that the character in accordance with the symbolism of the witch, is an adult, with the desires and frustrations that comes with.

"Stop, you'll tear me ! "

As the movie continues, and the growing despair, we understand that this time, nothing will stop it. It's an endless flow of despair whereof you can't escape, just like Homura's closed world. Suffer is an unstoppable cycle .And Puella magi madoka magica sinks into nothingness; they all become adult, and dreams die.

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There would be so many other things to say, but to be honest, the information flow is such , and the omnipresent symbolic , both visually and in concepts, as I could illustrate far as it would be bery hard to deepen the analysis more , so much that it would be tedious. Many scenes could be peeled one by one ( Homura and pumpkin referring to the legend of Jack O'Lantern , transformations, those in the field of flowers in the meadow, the confrontation between Kyubey and Homura etc.) , and anything that may seem like a random or a cryptic detail is actually the consequence of a carefully thought job of staging , with a specific purpose.

And all of this is still nothing compared to everything that could be said on Rebellion. If it is hated by a big part of the fanbase, it is because it is really hard to fully understand (if that's even possible). Its depth, its beauty, its symbolism make Rebellion, along with PMMM, one of the greatest anime, serie and even piece of art.

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Faust

Yes, the end of F/0 is bad, everyone dies, has his dream broken, fall into despair. But this is why I liked this show so much. I liked the way it shows all of our efforts are useless, our wishes will never come true and miracle doesn't exist (the graal was a big troll).
When the scenarist is Gen Urobuchi, never expect a happy end lmao. (Anyone said PMMM ?)

Yes, I really liked the duo rider/waver even if Gilgamesh remains my favorite character. The Gilgamesh vs Rider in the 23th ep was just so so great.

I will say it again, Yuki Kajiura is a goddess
(She also made the music of PMMM lmao)

Good pick-up on Saber, her being gay doesn't really surprise me lmao.

I also really liked the debate between saber, rider and gilgamesh on how a King is supposed to he/What is a king.

"A king must live a grander life than any other’s, and stoke his people’s feelings of admiration! He who is worthy of all heroes’ envy, and he who leads their way, is king! Therefore, the king is not alone. For his will equals that of all his followers together!"

"To win, but not destroy… To conquer, but not humiliate… That is what true conquest is!"

And my favorite quote (All hail Gilgamesh)

"Why must you insist on defining joy so narrowly? Where is the paradox in finding suffering and tragedy but other forms of pleasure? There is no one fixed type of joy. Your confusion derives from your failure to understand that."

If you liked F/0, you should definitely watch UBW, it really is happier and less tragic.

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Reading all of your post, It makes me really want to write a lot, but everything I'd want to write is already on the best review on this film I've read. It really is a shame that it's not in english. It highlights how deep, philosphical, psychological, beautiful, well-written and complex the show and the movie are. I'm linking it again in the case some of you would be (really) interested.

All hail PMMM !

Yuki Kajiura really is a goddess tho'

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Anon

The thing is that I don't hate life at all nor I find it meaningless, although I wouldn't mind knowing the answer of "why does the life exist ?".
I really value such things as effort, work, having a goal in life and a hobbie, friendship, happyness and don't think it's fake. It's just that I don't have any goal in my life nor a hobbie. I'm not depressed, on the contrary. It's just that I don't have any motivation. I'm just lazy and apathetic, and I don't believe in love. ^^

Z.Jong

I don't entirely agree with that. There are some works of Yuri that I won't read and I'm not cool with, but that's bound to happen.

It was a joke ^^ Of course every yuri isn't ok. I mean, who on earth is ok with a John K Peta work for example ?

Miki

My favorite word, in english and in french for lesbian love is sapphic. Don't you feel a certain poetry from this word ? Yes, I'm definitely twisted.

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Z.Long

I really liked Rebellion, it contrasts with the hope given at the end of the serie. There is too, too many things to say on it, and I'm kind of tired after the big post I wrote. But if there is someone with a [very] good french level; they can read this very good review ( Si vous n'êtes pas capables de pleinement comprendre les mots qui se trouvent dans ces parenthèses, alors il est manifeste que vous ne pourrez pas saisir toutes les idées et tout les axes de réflexion qu'offre cette excellente critique, ce qui serait du gâchis quand l'objet de l'analyse est le génial, l'excellent 3ème film de PMMM. Si vous avez tout compris, votre niveau semble idoine; lancez vous !)

Mika So you were 21 when you came out ? That's a bit late, isn't it ?

Gonna sleep, good night everyone !

Edit : Anon

Galich and Miki can provide the story, Blackkitty can arrange some flowers and Utopia takes care of the porn part ;)

Why the hell do I take care of the porn part O_o ?

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Anon

Well I started having this crush on sapphic love like .. two years ago. I think what triggered it was the movie Mulholland drive (which I consider as the greatest movie of all time). It's not about purety, innocence or anything like that, I myself have trouble putting words on my thoughts. Even more in english lmao, but I will try to make it understandable.

There is something like an alchemy between two girls that I can't feel between a man and a girl. And I find this unreachable feeling for us, crude beings, mesmerizing. I personally think that two girls being together is a beautiful thing, and not in a sexual way. I can't stand watching lesbian porn for example.

I always find it interesting when heterosexual men like yuri.

I guess it's like straight girls reading yaoi. I am fully aware that I see things from that angle because I'm a [straight] man.

More globally, I find homosexuality interesting. I support the theory of the gene-centered view of evolution, or more exatcly the fact that that all of our actions as human being, serves (consciously or unconsciously) the continuity of the humanity rather than the whole theory itself and the genetic things.

So, for me, Love is an abstract and unreal concept, and the thing people call love is only the result of the selfish gene. If you read the link above, it says that altruism counters that theory, but I don't think it's accurate. I would say that if a human, or even a dog sacrifice itself to save another from the same specie, it is because the saved one is more likely to have descendants and ensure the continuity of the specie.

And here comes homosexuality. This is the only thing that counters that theory. Why would one person be attracted to one of the same sex; so unable to reproduce. This is the only case where the "love" I don't believe in could be true since in this case it would not be affected by the selfish gene or call-this-shit-like-you-want. That's why I find it kind of fascinating ... And I won't be able to fully understand it since I'm not homosexual. I tried to read NSFW yaoi and to watch BL movie but I can't bring myself to like boys, your fault ladies.

I know that's fucked up, twisted and maybe strange [more than maybe], but It can't be helped.
To sum-up : Yuri is the best. As long as it's yuri, it's ok.

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Anon
Well, It's not that I hate ansgt or drama, but unrequited love, bad end, marriage with a random guy ect.. always leave a bitter and unpleasant taste in my mouth. I don't [totally] hate those but I don't like them either. Although reading them is interesting. And not liking bad ending doesn't mean that I'm gay lmao. I like girls, so the only difference between us is a Y chromosome ^.^

Garden of sinners is also really good indeed. I love nearly everything from ufotable. Time of eve is interesting, not my favorite though.
Lains is mindfuck but very good. I haven't watched 5 cm per sec, but if I remember it's a movie, not a serie, isn't it ?

Even if everyone knows the best anime ever are Boku no Pico, School Days, Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo : Anata to Koibito Tsunagi and Hen Zemi.
EDIT : And Shitai wo Arau (how could I have forgotten this one).

Personally speaking, the anime I hate the most is by far Sakura trick.

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