That just made me realize they've been secretly writing omegaverse this whole time lol

You've missed some subtext, and maybe some text there. I'm absolutely sure Tianli liked Xingyuan, not Wang. That "Why couldn't it be me" isn't about the guy, it's about her. She's sitting there thinking about how Xingyuan explicitly told her she wasn't interested in her romantically, and literally almost texted her "Why don't you care about me?" The girl has it bad, and not only is Xingyuan saying she isn't interested, she's becoming steadily more distant and distracted.

Xingyuan's getting more popular as she gets more successful, and it's distracting her from Tianli, who she takes for granted. Meanwhile Tianli is realizing that she likes Xingyuan and is hurt that she's becoming more distant while also taking opportunities away from her. All of that pain and jealousy and unrequited love overflowed until she did something she regretted.

Not saying it makes her okay, but it's not the kind of jealous spite you seem to think it is.

I wouldn't call it text, there's some stuff we can interpret as potentially a romantic interest, but it could also be wanting to keep the attention of the cool popular girl who used to be very close to her and has left her behind. And those types of motivations can't explain all the elements in the chapter, like Xingyuan pulling ahead of her in the competition to get the study abroad scholarship Tianli's family was pushing her to get, and Wang, the guy she introduced to us as her crush, wanting Xiangyuan's contact info. She doesn't seem interested in him anymore, but that certainly doesn't mean she can't feel bitter about the thought of her best friend succeeding in yet another area where Tianli did not. And when she remembers Xiangyuan talking about not liking every girl, the image is not from that scene but rather Xiangyuan being popular with girls at school.

Is Tianli thinking "why couldn't it be me?" supposed to be her jealous of Xiangyuan being popular and successful and happy, or is it her being jealous of those other girls getting attention from Xiangyuan, or is it "why couldn't I be the girl she likes"? I think that's deliberately ambiguous. I don't think there's any one cut and dry "it's just this and not that" explanation for her actions, because I doubt she could fully tell you. Teenagers are stupid and impulsive like that. But spite or bitterness clearly seemed to be at least part of it. The framing makes it clear that no matter why she wanted to do it, she was doing it in the moment to hurt Xingyuan on purpose, and while she immediately regrets it she can't take it back. That's some real big heavy shit to deal with for them both. Xianyuan might tell her she's forgiven, but will the guilt go away? Will they be friends again? It doesn't seem likely right now.

Why is it that translators always come across as total narcissists when talking to other people lol? You don't need to insult the other person's intelligence or accuse them of being some kind of fake news spreader.

you could just leave out all the narccy bull and still give all the same information.

inb4 bad attitudes and generated social apathy really lead to Ai generation

You'd take having an absolutely garbage machine translation over a human translator who dares to have opinions and feelings? Lol that's so cringe

Damn so Tianli deliberately outed her out of spite, yeesh. "She did better than me in school and the guy I liked wanted her contact info" is a pretty goddamn petty reason to betray a supposed best friend, yeah no shit Xingyuan isn't comfortable around her. I'm not sure how one even begins to make amends for doing that kind of evil on purpose, but Tianli barely even seems to have started beyond just putting herself in front of Xingyuan and hoping it just works somehow?? Just about the only hope for her I can imagine is one where she's still being dishonest: that text to Wang was phrased somewhat ambiguous and Xianyuan might not know it was an intentional act of spite. That would make Tianli an even worse person than how she appears after this chapter, though.
This context also highlights the importance of Xingyuan's relationship to Xiaoen, someone who's very open and uninhibited and an established adult who has basically no reason to ever be jealous of her. Xiaoen probably makes Xingyuan feel safe with all those character traits the other people around them criticize her for.

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Green is obviously the color of the magic fairies just off screen manipulating events to keep one or both of these women from dying as they should have a thousand times over given the events of the comic lol

I honestly really enjoy discussions about translations! But I feel like it's so easy to step on people's toes. Everyone has their own interpretations of words, especially if we include the sometimes wide array of interpretations among native speakers...

恋人？愛人？How do you translate those!?

(As a side note, my friend has been getting on my case for using the word "lover" in English as a gender-neutral term. I wish we had a good word for 恋人 that didn't imply anything heavy, like "partner" often does)

Wait is your friend saying "lover" is not gender neutral? I'm confused. If you're looking for a word like "partner" but less heavy then imo lover works pretty well, because it's got a connotation of two people in relatively new love who have not made any significant commitments yet, as those commitments would change the name of the relationship. They could be in something as light as a mutually acknowledged crush or explicitly short term interaction, like two people who met while traveling and will soon part ways. The relationship between two people where one of them is cheating is very frequently a "lovers" type relationship due to the preexisting commitment getting in the way of them being "official" with each other, as with Yuni and Fuuko.

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That was really cute. Dunno why people are arguing about the glasses as if Sasaki told her to remove them, cuz she absolutely did not. Yuzu entirely did that on her own, and since Sasaki fell for her before she did that I can totally imagine that being something she brings up, wanting the glasses back.
Speaking of Sasaki, I was wondering if she was named after the Azumanga Diaoh character because Yuzu gushing over her reminded me of Kaorin's famous gay euphoria scene, only to look it up and realize that character is "Sakaki". Ah well.

It still feels to me that it's less of a conscious effort and more that she doesn't like to compromise on what makes her feel comfortable

Lol what is this distinction supposed to be? She's conscious of how she best feels presenting herself, is conscious of the pressure to conform, and is consciously making a choice to refuse that pressure. Obviously it's all conscious, she's gone to the effort of getting all those piercings, even a tattoo (something very rare in Japan), and her outfits are clearly well thought out. It's not like she's just laying around in sweats and t shirts. She's not just avoiding stuff she doesn't like, like skirts, but actively pursuing the stuff she does, the stuff that lead to Aya first reading her as an "onii-san".

She's not specifically "trying to look like a boy," and yet her fashion choices matter far more to her than merely what she thinks looks good on her. Go back and read Rhythm B. Her clothing is tied into her identity. She does not think "I won't dress in an unflattering way," she thinks "I won't lie to myself". Hey perspective is a fundamentally queer one, not simply one about what clothes she thinks looks best. If it was just that then she'd be open to trying out other things even if just once, like her former friend wanted her to. If it was just that she wouldn't have "swore to never wear a skirt again after high school" as one of her defining features in her bio.

That was surprisingly the best chapter in the slowest pace this manga has ever been so far. Gave this story a hard time early on but you know what given the recent draught of good stories of this genre in recent times, this story is without a doubt one of top dogs of this genre.

On a devilish note: I hope the moms hook up with each other. Yuni's mother corrupting Fuuko's would be peak debauchery..

Oh God you just had the BEST idea. Let's all pray it comes true.

... Of course if it does, this manga will turn into Citrus. Oh no

I would be thrilled if this leads to a real conversion about gender between them, actually. Mitsuki is clearly very butch at minimum, but how does she feel about identifying as a woman in general? I'd love to know.

I think it'a less that she's butch and more that she is somewhat oblivious to social expectations and just finds a more masculine style of clothing comfortable without thinking too deeply about it. I don't think she has ever had any noticable objection to dressing feminine beyond "oh, yeah, I don't have very many skirts, do I...? It probably wouldn't look good on me anyways."

In her character bio (chapter 9.1) Mitsuki swears to never again wear a skirt once she graduates high school and can thus leave her uniform behind. In the flashback to her childhood in Rhythm B when a friend tries to get her to wear a skirt, her immediate reaction is "urgh...", trying to deflect, and then outright refusing when the friend doesn't let up. She thinks about how she doesn't have any skirts and doesn't want any. She absolutely has a deliberate concept of what she feels comfortable in and how she wants to present to the world, she's not accidentally dressing boyish because that's what happened to be in the closet lol.
This doesn't necessarily mean she's trans or anything of course, but combining that style of personal presentation with being a gay woman = butch, that's just basic math :P

I don't necessarily hate the stunned reaction, although it carries on for WAY too long, both in the sense of how long she's stunned and how this blank empty brain state fills up an entire chapter (at least, who knows if she'll be better next month). Especially since we're not seeing what she's thinking. We basically spent the entire chapter with one character in a stupor and the other just sitting there awkward, and that's extremely low density storytelling, and the ending didn't help. Tonally, this is the kind of chapter I expect to see after someone fucking dies, not a chapter after the heroines kiss. No matter what she's feeling, this framing can't be right for it unless she hated the kiss. You'd think the title of the manga was "Our Yuri Started With Me Getting Rejected in a Dream, and Ended With Me Getting Kissed and Realizing I'm Not Gay After All" looking at this chapter.

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So she just see the stupid baby and that's it? problems solved? no broken heart anymore ? talk about ridiculous.

That would be ridiculous if it happened but I have no idea why you'd assume so. People who are sad can still enjoy happy moments like seeing a baby niece for the first time.

That manager looks pretty goddamn unhinged with all those middle of the night phone calls. It's she obsessed with Io? In love with her? Related to her? Either way I hope she gets hit by a car

I hope Fuuko forgets about any resentment she has towards her first crush and becomes her baby's honorary aunt, that'll be so cute.

My og comment seems to be coming true. Idk if the resentment will fully go away but at least the baby will be loved and that's all I want

The moms need girlfriend too
Also, how the baby has this much hair?

Anime babies can't be bald, that'll be blasphemy

But for real, I don't think these mangakas know what infants look like. There's a birthrate decline in Japan after all

Sometimes babies can in fact be born with that much hair, especially if they're born a bit late. I mean it's actually probably the baby's appearance being fudged a bit for aesthetics because that's a much cuter look than a typical newborn, but it IS possible lol.

Probably because she's feeling a little embarrassed for how over the top she was acting, especially since Xingyuan seemed unimpressed by it, so she's trying to course correct by being "fair" to Tianli and give her a chance instead of shoving her out of the way.

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I wouldn't be surprised if not saying anything was an attempt to be considerate of her gf's anxiety. If Yoru told Hime she's sick, you know Hime would drop everything to go smother her with care, so simply being quiet for a day felt like a less bad alternative.

I don't even think Aya forgot Mitsuki was "onii-san," she just got embarrassed and self conscious using that name for the first time in a long time due to all the baggage it comes with (Aya's feeling stupid for not recognizing Mitiski, guilt at misgendering her, embarrassment at realizing she was gushing to her friends about someone who was sitting right there the whole time, etc).
I would be thrilled if this leads to a real conversion about gender between them, actually. Mitsuki is clearly very butch at minimum, but how does she feel about identifying as a woman in general? I'd love to know.

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I really don't get what horrible crimes people are Fuuko committing

Only if one considers general asshole-ish behavior a crime I suppose. Which it thankfully isn't, phew, so many of us would be in trouble otherwise!

It does make Fuuko rather harder to sympathize with though, and this latest chapter did not really move that particular needle. Is this entire volume going to be just gazing at the world's most hesitant shoe starting to drop or what?

I wouldn't call her asshole-ish, I'd call her... passionate lol. She's obviously flawed, I'd imagine she's been working through the last few chapters' events in her head wondering what she did wrong. Wouldn't be surprised if "being too demanding and confrontational" comes out as the conclusion, she pushed to try to end things definitively before Yuni was quite ready to move on, which shows Fuuko in retrospect to be less manipulative than she previously came across as. She wasn't winning because she's a puppet master making Yuni dance to her tune, she was winning because Yuni really did want her, and she stopped winning because Yuni flinched out of guilt for being a "cheater".
Yuni is clearly coming around to the realization "I can be happy AND not a cheater if I just give up on this busted ass relationship with Nanase". That's a revelation Fuuko was hoping Yuni'd have BEFORE Fuuko got hurt two chapters ago, and hopefully she will be receptive to that revelation when she hears it coming in late. Better than never, right? What's a little emotional suffering between this cast of characters, it's hardly like they're new to it at this point lmao

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I really don't get what horrible crimes people are Fuuko committing, unless you take some kinda sin-based perspective. Oh no, the devil woman is tempting me to sin, it's all her fault! Lol. I don't even know why people think she doesn't actually love Yuni, we've had her inner monologue and seen her cry over her. Just because she's smart and resourceful in trying to make her dreams come true does not make those dreams false, that would be silly.
I really just want the best for Fuuko, but we probably can't have that so I'll have to settle for her getting the failgirl she wants with Yuni. And I actually do genuinely believe that Fuuko x Yuni (Fuuni? Hmm) could actually work out long term. Fuuko would make Yuni feel confidently loved while also being capable of materially keeping her useless ass alive, and Yuni obviously makes Fuuko feel like a superwoman. Their compatibility is really good. Even if Fuuko works out of the house while Yuni stays at home I bet they'd still work out, because Fuuko acts in exactly the way Yuni wants when they're together to keep her going when they're not. And the things Fuuko wants that Yuni can't give her, like someone to talk about her fungus book with, she can get online from Internet friends. Win/win, 100% compatibility.... as long as they don't fuck it up by adding a third in there lol

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Rereading the series, I noticed another specific moment of Aizawa having more eyes: chapter 12, page 26, when Michi tries to talk to Aizawa.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/i_see_you_aizawa_san_ch12#26
The warped image of Aizawa looks generally just warped/distorted at first, but there's two specific things that stick out to me:
1) there's faint doubled lines clearly visible on her shirt and hair, as if there's a second Aizawa transparently imposed on top the first or she's doubled in some way, and
2) Aizawa's eyes are separated from her body in a way none of the rest of her is altered, pulled off to the sides and largely intact, and her eye sockets don't appear to just be blurred or empty: they're mostly filled in with a medium tone, but still with visible whites. Those are a different pair of eyes, ones with very different irises to Aizawa's normal ones.

The extra eyes are also visible in the newest chapter, ones clearly different from Aizawa's normal eyes, on page 26 (same page number, coincidence!? .... Probably lol).
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/i_see_you_aizawa_san_ch16#26
So it really feels to me like somehow Aizawa even as a ghost is possessed by something, or maybe she's possessing something else and that's how she sticks around.

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Considering Ange's symptoms and how Honami was described as also being really sickly before she died, I'm guessing it's a spirit that possessed her and is now possessing Ange.
I would also predict its goal is actually Michi instead of Honami's ghost. There's a trope in stories about evil ghosts and spirit mediums where the mediums have some potential energy that evil ghosts wanna consume. It would hardly be the first time something specifically targeted Michi, the many eyed thing in the gym equipment shed attacked Michi but didn't ambush Honami when she came in, it was just gone for some reason.

Looking back at that horrifying event for Aizawa, I think there might be something or someone else in there with her. The first time we see her transformed like that, her eyes still look relatively normal for her, that distinct sparkly shoujo look. The next two pages though, the eyes change. They're lighter and solid in color, and most importantly fuzzy bordered instead of distinct, making them closer to Michi and Senpai. On the page where Michi starts fleeing you can see both at once: on the left, a dark distinct Aizawa-like eye expressing horror, and on the right two light fuzzy eyes staring at Michi. There's one final eye visible when Baby Michi touches Aizawa, but it's so small and stylized that I think it might just be Aizawa's normal eyes returning, despite it looking different.

Considering Shinto rules, Aizawa beginning to despair could very well make her highly dangerous. I don't see why Michi would have put up some safeguard that would hurt herself if Aizawa would see her notice her. Going by how shy Michi is in the photograph vs how normal she was in the old flashback it's possible that she carried ghost trauma before even meeting Aizawa.

Michi having ghost trauma is one of the first things about her past we learn, remember the flashback of her attempting to help a little girl, only to realize the girl is a ghost missing its eyes?

Yeah there's some black comedy with Haegu's assassin coworkers, and more innocent comedy with Mian's flashbacks to her fumbling feelings towards her "mother" Haegu (who it should be mentioned was herself only a teenager when she "adopted" Mian, the age gap between them is only nine or ten years, and Mian never once saw Haegu as a mother or as family. In case anyone reading this was like "yeah I'm totally fine with the scenes of torturing rapists and child murderers to death and all that but implied incest with a huge age gap is way too far!")