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i don't like how her husband thinks of woman, u sick fuck not all woman are weak bastard
also the boycut girl is annoying and midori should've already told him about maki and her affair
in the end, i just hope her husband won't become another jerk just like in other drama yuri and hope they all get happy ending
. . . The husband is physically and emotionally abusive. if you hope he "won't become another jerk" that ship has SAILED. It has sailed so far it is on the other side of the planet. I hope you're commenting before having read the whole thing, because if you're up to date on this and you still aren't convinced he's a jerk, you are an -awful- judge of character.
I just couldn't help but laugh at the innocent virgin-sensei (or was the claim she made in chapter 1 a lie?) turning into a horny sex shark almost immediately after a cheeky student stole her first kiss. How could she have even lived that peaceful life before, if she was so pent up all the time?
It just felt like weird flex to go all that distance in around 4 chapters. :)
That make almost no sense on paper. If it was just for talk like she said then ther was absolutely no reason to go the extra mile to her appartement because if it's really just talk then someone will had get the wrong idea about it. And if it's not about talking then wtf ? She goes from Kusanagi to Sei in like 2 chapters and after ONE date and ONE kiss. In one case that's bad logic and the other is just fast pacing. Just hope it's not gonna go on the NSFW side, there is no need to do that.
I mean, it was never just for talking? I mean, not even for the date. That was a lie she was telling. This woman is thirsty and desperate to escape her structured lifestyle. You get the impression from the flashbacks that she has regrets over missing out on something because of her urge to follow the rules, but whether that's true or not....
She went out with Ako to decide if she liked the girl. And apparently she decided she did, because she's gone straight into full sexual predator mode.
To quote an old cliche, it's always the quiet ones.
I think we're all forgetting that "Azami" (probably an alias) still has a gun to Marika's head, and is very likely to (try to) shoot her once she finds what she's looking for. If anything, I suspect she's part of a faction who wants to:
a) keep the entire Suzuran project under wraps, which means tying off ALL loose ends, or
b) wants to exploit Marika as she may suspect that this Marika might have the ability to "dimension hop" just like her parallel versionA doesn't make much sense in the context of chapter 10.1 though; why even talk about it at all if you're just here to finish the cover-up? So I'm leaning toward B.
I suspect she's affiliated with Yanagi, honestly. She's probably Yanagi Ayame's daughter, and is trying to protect her family's secret. That's why she knows Marika and why she's taking her back to the Yanagi mansion: It's her home base.
Edit: Well, I was close. ;p
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So, her "secret life" is that she eats normal food and not just sweets all the time? Why would anyone care? Does she think other girls eat nothing but sweets? What is up with manga gendering sweet and savory food like this?
It seems to be a japanese culture thing? You see it in a lot of manga. Guys embarassed to go to sweet-shops and the like. Women cultivating personalities on instagram where they take pictures of sundaes and pancakes and such things. Ramen places are for old men and working people, seems to be the mindset.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that I just recently noticed that Konatsu's father is still wearing his wedding ring, so it can be assumed that Konatsu's mother is dead rather than divorced.
Most likely, although another explanation might be if they're divorced and he's not over it.
Wheres the rape tag?
Hey, she immediately stopped when consent was revoked. Let's not go throwing around baseless accusations. ;p
(still needs insane amounts of sex tho)
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Marika-B seems to have resolved herself to detatching from the family that raised her, but she's also had to live in Yuriworld as the only straight person, which must have been rough.
Just a reminder that we don't know her sexual orientation. And she's probably not the only straight person anyway. As far as we know, the virus simply killed men, it didn't change people's sexuality.
If she didn't feel fundamentally different from everyone around her, I doubt she'd have gone through so much trouble to return to her native dimension. If she's not straight, wouldn't she obviously be happier staying in the world she knows than leaping across to another where any number of friends or family members might not exist?
There has to be -some- kind of friction between her and the world she exists in, or she wouldn't have moved heaven and earth to go back.
As for the rest of the population, The -title of the series- is "All of Humanity is Yuri Except for Me". And literally everything we've seen about that world suggests that homosexual relationships have been entirely normalized. Whether that's situational homosexuality, a side effect of the virus, or whether some sort of genetic engineering has taken place (in the process of making humanity a species that can reproduce with one sex), or even if it's just learned behavior, the fact of the matter is that the title of the work and the motives of Marika-B both strongly imply that most, if not all people in that world are perfectly happy being teh gay, and that Marika was the standout.
It's also been suggested that Marika-A has had trouble fitting in in our world. I'd be surprised if the author shied away from the obvious parallels there.
I definitely get the feeling that the reason Maki and Chie didn't remain close after high school has something to do with the blonde girl from the flashback. Also, it wasn't until I saw Ako's bandaged arm this chapter that I remembered her injury in chapter 2, so Komachi cutting her arm was just to match her sister, which Yuki picked up on immediately. And I love the detail of Maki trimming her nails after talking with Chie and deciding she would just go for what she wants (if you know what I mean). I thought Maki would be a reasonable adult, but it seems like Chie might need to step in and stop her from making a terrible mistake.
Yeah, Maki was definitely not going to be a reasonable adult. That was clear when she let herself get pushed into the date.
Okay, if think I have a theory about this story so far and even though this is a guess I'll relay my thoughts has a spoiler.
I really don't think you need to spoiler-mark speculation or guesses. I haven't noticed people doing that much on here, generally the spoiler bars are just used when discussing events or information from a chapter that hasn't landed on Dynasty yet.
Okay, first of all, I think that Maki-sensei and Chie-sensei are also twins (based on the 4th chapter, where Chie suggests to switch with Maki for the date with Ako).
No, you're misunderstanding that scene. She isn't suggesting they switch for a date, she's picked up on the fact that there's something going on, and she's offering to take her place in giving Ako remedial lessons. She's trying to save Maki from getting into a dangerous situation. That scene is -after- the date, anyway, and they hadn't made a second one yet.
Which leads to my second theory that Ako has actually run into Chie-sensei (disguised as Maki-sensei) at the end of chapter 5 and Chie is the one inviting her to her apartment (probably trying to ruin their relationship which is a bit opposite to Komachi's approach).
I'm pretty sure Maki is inviting Ako to her apartment because she intends to bang her.
She didn't trim her fingernails for no reason. (and Chie definitely noticed that, with the way she was staring Maki's hands the next day.)
So basically we have two pairs of twins that although have different personalities, their relationship with their sibling is very parallel to each other. In the case of Ako, she feels inferior in her looks compared to her sister. While Komachi feels that she and her sister are the same and will be together because of that.
In the case of Maki-sensei and Chie-sensei, although, it isn't totally clear, I think that when they were teens, Maki enforced her principles onto Chie and it felt to Chie that she was being forced to be similar to Maki causing a rift between them and becoming distant with each other (in the 2nd chapter it is implied that Chie and Maki were not together during their university years), but Chie seems to have feelings for Maki and is trying to get back together with her, hence she is trying to sabotage Maki's and Ako's relationship.
I'm really pretty certain Maki and Chie aren't related. They went to high school together, but they didn't look alike at the time, and there's no in-story indication that they look similar. Even if their hair was different, the students would have picked up on the similarity and commented on it. Chie wouldn't be the legendary volleyball teacher, She and Maki would be the legendary teacher twins. On top of that, they have different surnames.
If I didn't know better and was an average Japanese reader not too informed about it, I'd go and think "Wow, these LGBT people are really screwed in the head! I hope my child isn't one of them and will steer clear of them, lest they be infected by their craziness!"
I think the average Japanese reader can tell reality from fiction.
People only know what they've been exposed to. If the only people who speak up have bigoted preconceptions, and actual gay people are afraid to speak up, and portrayals and fiction show a screwed up misrepresentation of the LGBT community, that's all they know.
Just because something is fiction doesn't mean it isn't intended to convey reality, or that it might give people a misconception of reality. Have you ever read a fictional story and felt like you learned something meaningful from it? Did you ever feel that a lesson in a fictional story resonated with you because it matched something that felt true to life?
Has it really -never- occurred to you that fiction could reinforce someone's misconceptions the same way it might reinforce your worldview?
Also Marika-A now has to process that her father isn't her father, and her brother isn't her brother, and seeing them ever again would mean stealing them away from their actual kin.
So I kinda feel like there's no happy ending here? No matter what, everybody involved has to mourn the permanent separation of some loved ones.
Oof, basically like a switched at birth story. World/family you were born in versus world/family you grew up in.
If both Marikas desire to live in the unaffected world, it'll be quite awkward an dilemma indeed
Seems like other-Marika was okay leaving the family she grew up with though? Assuming it was a conscious choice, when she went back 'home'
Except normally in a switched at birth story, it's still conceivably possible for the switched babies to get to know their real families without also saying goodbye forever to the people that raised them. In this case, they -can't- go back without giving up the family they grew up with. It's pretty sad. And yeah, Marika-B seems to have resolved herself to detatching from the family that raised her, but she's also had to live in Yuriworld as the only straight person, which must have been rough. She also may not have realized her little sister wouldn't exist in the other world, or realized that her sister would recognize Mari-A as an imposter, so she may have been comforting herself with the knowledge that things would be pretty much the same.
Shiii no reason to leave us with that cliffhanger tho :(
I don't see it as a cliffhanger, I see a woman who is in love with her editor openly confessing after her editor indicates she's interested. The implication is definitely that there's a mutual attraction there.
Hey now, she'd been into her childhood friend well before that!
Which is probably part of the problem: he does care for her, but as his childhood friend or like a (normal) sister. It's a pity marriage without romantic spark.
The issue is not the longevity of Kaoru's feelings, the issue is: what does Reiichi have going for him that makes him so great to this particular person?
Now, I know that love doesn't work by a cost/benefit equation; you fall in love with who you fall in love with.
But this is a story with the theme of romantic attraction at the center of it (whether you want to characterize its genre as "romance" or not).
And the very reasonable question of why exactly Kaoru feels so strongly about Reiichi (who is at best--which means putting the whole issue of possible infidelity completely aside--a pretty drab, ordinary, low-charisma guy who pays little attention to Kaoru's emotional state), has been explicitly asked within the text itself, but has yet to be answered.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_ch04#12
It kinda has. We've been told she was alone all the time until she met Reiichi and Uta.I would guess, based on their personalities and what we know about their backstory, that she fell in love with him, (or maybe just the idea of him) and just never gave up on it.
When they were kids, we know he was her only friend for awhile, and when she hit puberty that turned into infatuation and love. He was never into her, so he always avoided answering, because he cared, he just wasn't in love. And then He fell for Risako, but Risako didn't return his feelings, but wanted to see Kaoru give up on him, so she went with it. And it probably worked? I mean when she sees him after her mom's death, she doesn't seem to get excited or hopeful at all, and she seems kind of flabbergasted by his sudden switch.
Personally, I think Kaoru has wanted to have Reiichi (and Uta) as family more than anything.
I don't see anything in the new chapter that suggests Kaoru likes Uta this way. On the other hand, Reiichi admits Kaoru is wrong by thinking he was never in love with her I think maybe his situation is complicated too, but it seems that he does care.
We know he -cares-, the question of if he's actually romantically in love with her is different. I don't see how you're interpreting any of his reaction as him thinking she's wrong about his feelings. He immediately replies with a pretty clumsy non-response, he doesn't say anything internally about loving her, just thinks about how Uta was right about her emotional state. Then he looks at her dead mother's picture and looks guilty. I actually think those panels say a LOT about his motivation for marrying her. Eventually he says she's wrong, but he has to work up to it. That is generally a bad sign (TM)
I came away with this chapter more certain than ever that he's not in love with her, and he's lying about that to protect her feelings, because he -does- love her in a familial sense. He feels duty-bound to protect her and- oh fuck fuck FUCK.
I just realized Kaoru said he went to see her mom when she was in the hospital. She asked him on her deathbed to take care of Kaoru. It's the last thing she ever said to him. I'd bet all the tea in China.
Why, "please misinterpret it," though? That's such a weird sentence. It's like asking not to understand your intentions. I know I should be focusing on the Yuri but this is distracting.
Tomoe is expressing that she "misinterpreted" the draft as a confession. It actually wasn't meant to be, and the author starts to try and pedal away from that with excuses because she doesn't think she'd be interested, but then Tomoe is visibly disappointed. So she asks her to keep her misinterpretation and take it as a confession.
That's cute. But, is she more an author vs a mangaka, or is mangaka more general than comic artists?
Yeah, she's clearly a novelist.
Consider world A the one affected by disease, and world B the one not affected.
Our protagonist is Marika-A, born in world A. At a very young age, she was subject to an experiment and changed places with Marika-B from the unaffected world. Marika-A grows up thinking she actually belongs to world B.
Then Marika-B finds out about this experiment, and somehow reverts it, bringing herself back to her homeworld and switching places with protagonist Marika-A, who, in turn, believes she'd been transported to a strange world of only women, when that was actually the world she was born in all among.
tl;dr:: Marika is currently at the world she was born in, and from which she was taken long ago as part of an experiment.
Couldn’t she just settle with the world she’s in now?
The story seems to be heading in that direction, yes.
Well, her sister is certainly going to be upset by this.
Also Marika-A now has to process that her father isn't her father, and her brother isn't her brother, and seeing them ever again would mean stealing them away from their actual kin.
So I kinda feel like there's no happy ending here? No matter what, everybody involved has to mourn the permanent separation of some loved ones.
(as an aside, Gin still looks pretty girly and his hair just looks like a pixie cut, so I wonder how many of those onlookers were just thinking "Wow, she was wearing a wig? But she looks fine with short hair!")
holy shit guys, his expression tells us that he’s literally heard of this transgender thing just now, he’s probably making connections to how it “might” fit into his situation and hence why hes shocked but tbh i dunno i mean he did do it for attention on social media but maybe overtime he became more familiar with it?
It was mentioned to him chapters ago, IIRC. I don't think Gin has really strongly sorted through his feelings about gender, but he has continued to refer to himself as male since then. His surprise here isn't because "wait that's a thing?" but because this particular revelation caught him by surprise.
Which is not unexpected, because it is pretty surprising.
"Why are you telling me this now?"
"Well see I was being blackmailed and blahdyblahdyblah-"
"No, I mean, couldn't you have waited until we weren't in a crowded, quiet public space surrounded by onlookers?"
In other news that is surprising to absolutely nobody, Man, Yori is super smooth.
Edit: Oh, and Mom knows before Himari does. I love it. ;p
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I've just read chapter 15, which was uploaded in Spanish today. At long last, we get to see another concert of the SS Girls! This is their new look:
They picked it because it matches their name better.
Kidding! As if, lol.
Noooo don't start that again!
Ah yes, semi-anonymous internet forums, the premier location for intelligent discourse about the place for and nuances of consent.
I will have this argument with anyone, anywhere, because people need to understand that it is not okay to have sex with someone who can't consent.
As for people describing this as rape. Again that's a completely false statement and a misuse of the word. For rape to occur the sexual act must not be consensual. Prostitution and rape are not synonyms.
Having sex with someone who is drunk is rape. They aren't able to consent. Period. It's not complicated.
You don't know what you are talking about. It's not complicated.
You seriously believe every person that's ever gotten drunk with someone else and had sex with them is a rapist?
She didn't get drunk -with- her, she found her drunk and took advantage of her impaired state.
And yes, if you are sober, and you take advantage of somoene's drunken state to have sex with them, that's RAPE. Legally and ethically.
If they had gotten together, then it would just be an accident, because neither of them was in a situation to make an informed decision. But that isn't what happened. One person was drunk, the other person wasn't. The person that wasn't drunk has a responsibility to refuse sex from the impaired person, because they -are- capable of making an informed decision. If they decide to fuck the drunk person, THAT IS RAPE. YOU WILL GO TO JAIL FOR THAT IF YOU ARE CAUGHT. A lot of people skate those kinds of charges because "beyond a reasonable doubt" is hard to prove on something like that, but there are currently people in jail because they decided to bang someone who was inebriated.
It is the simplest. fucking. thing. If someone's ability to make an informed decision to consent is impaired, DON'T DO IT.
In the case of this series, you can argue that it's more ambiguous, since it's unclear whether she noticed she was drunk before she did it. Certainly when she made the offer she had no way of knowing, and she doesn't explicitly take notice of the beer cans until Chiyo can't remember the following morning. (Of course, that's all a good example of why you shouldn't have sex with a stranger on impulse when you don't know their mental or physical state.) And if it turns out Chiyo doesn't mind, that also mitigates the consequences a lot. Of course, none of that does anything about the other problem of extortion.
For something to be a threat a person has to imply they are going to cause or do something that isn't already going to happen to you. In other words if you tell somebody that they can come inside if they give you a cookie because it's raining and they will get wet if they don't, that is not a threat.
It absolutely is. You're leveraging your power over someone to extort a reward. (give me something or I'll make you stand in the rain.) It's relatively innocuous in that case, neither the demand nor the consequence are very harmful in that situation, but it's still a threat (I will make you stand in the rain), and you're an asshole if you do it.
Less of an asshole than someone who demands sex to let someone stay in their home rent free, but still an asshole.
Let's take the concept to the other extreme to illustrate the point.
If you're hanging off a cliff, and your fingers are slipping, and I have the ability to push a button to extend a platform that will catch you and prevent you from harm, and I refuse to push the button unless you give me your life savings, what would you call that? Oh, yeah, that's extortion. Because I can easily take an action that saves you, and my refusal to do so is conditional to you giving me something.
It's the exact same logic, me not doing anything will harm you, but if you take it to the extreme, it is clearly monstrous.
Either way, I promise you, legally, demanding sex in exchange for lodging most places would at -least- get you in the line of fire for extortion, possibly solicitation of prostitution, and it's definitely morally bad to use your position of authority to get sex from someone.
I particularly enjoyed how Adachi's first confession, in the bath, just triggered an immediate "...OHHHHhhhhhhh, now I get it!" from Shimamura. Like, there's not really much of a "Does she mean as a friend, or...." period, she just goes straight to "Ah, yup. That makes sense. Kind of obvious, now that I think about it..."
