It's nice to see new chapters. A little problem:

Page 14 of chapter 23 is broken. (It has 0 size in the downloaded archive, too. It's fine on MD.)

Before reading further than the first page... I don't appreciate the flopping. ("God intended," seriously?)

Then I thought about the date again...

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also, is it okay to say this is yuri and not subtext, right?

I only saw the Yuri tag on it.

I misunderstood the question at first, sorry. There is no Subtext, especially because of the mirror kiss. So Yuri, for sure.

Depressing as fuck

Definitely another good tag for it.
For once it's a good thing a one-shot is so short. Though the work on it is still appreciated.

also, is it okay to say this is yuri and not subtext, right?

I only saw the Yuri tag on it.

I'd say more Aaaangst than Drama

Agreed.

Maybe yuri crush???

The definition of Yuri crush (a.k.a. Schoolgirl Crush) probably doesn't fit this one. Is there another tag for one-sided romantic love?

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So close and yet never ever that close... Drama, Aaaaaangst?

Idol-zoned...

Romance? It's eluding my attention so far. (Plus there is neither Yuri nor Het to point where to look for it.)

It's weird feeling relieved about Aiko's misfortune because it didn't turn into a love triangle.

From an older post of mine:

The end of chapter 15 reminds me of 15Y+. (Coincidence with the numbers?) I really hope this prediction won't come true, either.

It ended up going in a similar direction... Things probably won't go that far in this series. Probably... If Ayako quickly recognizes the same difference that Asuka did in this chapter...

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"We haven't done anything worth getting riled up about yet anyhow."

uh seeing as we've established they have lots of sex, what on earth is she talking about here?

About the place they are at.

If only Mei started acting like this in the original series... Well, better late than never.

anyone else getting whiplash from the tone shifts in the manga?

Definitely. As if YURI DRILL's tone rubbed off on it now.

Holy...

Other than that, thanks for working on the series.

I haven't been following this series, but felt like responding to this particular message:

There is not a single programmer who has worked in a professional environment for longer than a week who would write a bunch of code and not test it to see if it works before turning it in.

Is the source of your statements work experience? If it is, I'd like to work where you do. I find it very dangerous that some people really believe what you wrote is the universal truth.

That just doesn't happen, it makes no sense what so ever. Its clear you and the author have never done proper coding. There is no speeding through a project long before the deadline and not running it at least once to see if it works.

Once you witness it in practice, it makes sense, even if it doesn't make it any better. As an example, when in the development process people later manually test the integrated features and report the bugs, resulting in separate tasks for the developers, irresponsible programmers may feel inclined to just pass on what they wrote, without running it even once, being all confident in their abilities. This lets them very quickly finish their tasks, and "in the worst case" they get another, about a bug. Then they finish fixing only that bug, and wait for the next one to be discovered, while making good progress on other tasks. If the progress is not properly assessed and the supervisors don't see the relationship between the initial task and the endless fixes, people can get away with such an approach, or may not even realize how inefficient they do their job. The next step is to imagine what happens if the manual testing doesn't cover the feature at all, for one reason or another...

Quality control on all levels is still a massive issue for a lot of reasons, one being that writing the sufficient automated tests, despite all the available tools and libraries, tends to consume more resources than the features' development itself, and it's hard to prove how much work doesn't have to be done later thanks to them. Especially to people with little idea about software development.

Again, this isn't about the series; I'll yet have to eventually see how it unfolded in the story. Also, I'd rather not get into how to avoid these things. That would fill books and it's a constant battle anyway...

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Suggested the tag change from Maho x Miho to Mako x Miho.

whhw whwhwat hwat what was htath wha her backfdsh

The scar of "we have yet a lot to learn about Nagi."

This is a trainwreck, and I really want to see how it all wraps up.

I stopped reading a few chapters back; now I'm just waiting for the wrapped up series, to see if it's worth it, and reading the comments...

Pairing tags would be very useful for this series, too.

Ayako's wording of her thoughts and Asuka's dream make me wonder... Could Asuka be adopted?

Edit: I had some related theories almost two years ago, too...

Lolz. I wonder how upset people would be if that was the case. I wouldn't mind, but since incest was the main concept (sorta) than pulling a pseudo-incest would probably irk the main readers. That's just a guess, though, idk

Ok stop that shit rightnow Asuka is Ayako's daughter, there is no doubt about it. No adopted things or whatever.

Thanks. I didn't remember that extra at all. Now I wonder what else Asuka's dream was about.

Aside from that, it surprised me no one voiced worries about Ayako running into Akira's arms (bed), to divert herself from Asuka. I finally remembered what had made me feel uneasy about such a development: The end of chapter 15 reminds me of 15Y+. (Coincidence with the numbers?) I really hope this prediction won't come true, either.

As for Ayako, I also thought that the "someone like me" part was referring to her feeling being broken/damaged. So Verdant's more extensive speculation may be more correct than not. It's a really good guess, though then it's hard to imagine how this story could have a satisfying ending if Ayako and Asuka became a real couple.

I don't really like the turn this story took. I wasn't soo much into darker story like fucked up childhood, etc. I guess I'll wait until the story ends if it's really that dark.

Chapter 15 made me think the same. Until now I read the updates as soon as I had noticed them, but waiting for some chapters to pile up may really be better.

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Ayako's wording of her thoughts and Asuka's dream make me wonder... Could Asuka be adopted?

Edit: I had some related theories almost two years ago, too...

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This is so wrong... But so funny.

Also, if you're introducing someone to yuri, please give them a book instead of sending them to a site with pornography on it. This may be silly coming from me, but piracy is still bad, m'kay?

I put books into people's hands, if they wish, as I buy both Japanese and English publications. Though I try taking care of the books as well, so unless someone visits me, rather than bringing the books somewhere, it's much easier and safer to give a link. Also, if someone is just curious what yuri is, asking them to buy a book is probably too much.

Ironically, if this was full hentai, ala Softcharm, there wouldn't be so many complaints.

Porn is somehow more acceptable than fluff. Says a lot about the state of decay of our societies.

I wanted to mention this, especially after all the "leave the fiction we like alone" replies, but decided not to, because it'll probably fall on deaf—angry and/or troll—ears:

I like a lot of Itou Hachi's work. In the ones having Animal ears, the fiction is very clear, and it makes it easy to not take the problematic elements seriously (slavery, arranged marriage, a different species whose members may remain like little girls with animal features while they live, etc.) and just focus on the nice art, atmosphere, romance, comedy, etc. When it comes to hentai, it's obvious that its main purpose is to be masturbation material, often without plot and with over-the-top themes. I agree with that if it keeps pedophiles from going after real children, I don't mind any amount of it being created.

The problem with this particular work is that it has a realistic setting, it isn't a hentai, so it makes the impression of asking the question: "Is this fine?" As if it is trying to test or bend the boundaries of what is acceptable.

Then once the grooming in it got pointed out as being wrong, despite how wholesome it's depicted, to answer that question, instead of just replies like "it's just some interesting fiction, we know it's wrong, don't get bent out of shape over it," some people out of feeling something of theirs being endangered, or only for trolling, started defending the characters' actions, moving the conversation again beyond the whole "it's just fiction" reasoning, or even went to "I'm not a pedophile, you're the pedophile!" style of replies.

The replies explaining away or romanticizing the depicted grooming itself are admittedly scary. Not for the people doing that being pedophiles, but for such replies potentially encouraging those who are, and for the signs of ignorance that may apply in the real world, too. What would you do if you were that colleague or schoolmate Ruki talks to, or if Otome were your friend, sister, or daughter?

Content like this may not help refuting claims like "most LGBTQ+ people are after children, too," yet I never asked for its removal. (Though personal experience has shown that the hentai content makes the site unfit for introducing western people to harmless, quality yuri manga in the first place, because a wrong click from a regular story can bring them to a hentai that to them isn't different from child porn. Since I didn't even know about filters back then, not sure if they even existed, I didn't think about setting up a whole account for them and having them sign in before giving any links. Thanks for the advice ahead of time, though.)

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certain things, like listening to Otome peeing, the lap hugs, the staying over without the parents worrying, started popping up as ways Riku, a working adult, is abusing the relationships she established with Otome and her family.

Why thought ? Most are normal behavior (beside the whole pee thing that i'm not a fan of). Yeah there is the 3 vows but that's normal things a nice person while do without any other intention.

The hidden intention is exactly the reason. Those things are normal only on the surface, and only Riku and Otome are aware of that. (Riku's colleague isn't helping.)