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Yuru Yuri discussion 25 Mar 14:04
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This chapter is brought to you by Norm MacDonald.

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I get a little surprised every time I see a comment about being disappointed or sad that there probably won't be a happy ending to the main pair's relationship. Like... Airi strangled Hina whilst holding her out a second story window back in Chapter 5. The series is founded on them having a very unhealthy, codependent relationship. Things have obviously gotten even worse, but it was never close to a normal romantic relationship. If the rape in the previous chapter didn't convince some people that these two will never have a happy, healthy relationship, I don't know what would.

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Pink-only really is hard on the eyes. It looks a lot better when it's mixed with black for contrast, like Nagata Kabi's work, but I guess it works for a story like this. Anyway, I liked this story and I'm glad to continue seeing stuff from this author.

A new translation of Octave could be cool, but to be honest, I mainly would like to see faster releases of So, Do You Want to Go Out, Or? The raws are at Chapter 58 or so.

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OMG! New chapter raws alert! Kyaaa... fangirling mode on - the wait for TL will be hard.. all hail Yuri project

Where do you find them?

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I don't think Ruby is going to realize that it's Azurite just yet. Azusa's so different from Ruby's image of her that she might not be sure it was her even if she saw her face clearly. She might even end up thinking that Azusa is just a fangirl imitating Azurite.

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I think So, Do You Want to Go Out, Or? handles its male characters pretty well, for the most part. Anyway, this reminded me of that one chapter of Pop Team Epic where gyaru who are mean to otaku are being killed.

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Are that beer can and that donut stuck to permanently stuck to the heads of the teacher and Sumida now? Probably not, but I wouldn't be surprised either way. I really hope to see this animated someday.

By the way, the mangaka panpanya makes short stories with a really similar vibe to this series. An Invitation from a Crab is a good collection that's available in English.

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"Lez" also has an offensive angle to it in English that "rezu" does not for a Japanese lesbian.

Is that true? I feel like I sometimes see the term "lez"/"rezu" used an insulting or just ignorant way by a character in manga, and that's the vibe I get when the MC says it here. Honey & Honey shortens lesbian as "bian" and says that "'lezzie' has a derogatory connotation."

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Shit, I came here expecting the answer but no one asked so I'll have to

Wtf is rezu? A new subcategory to gatekeep adult yuri?

Japanese pronunciation of "lez" as in "lesbian." Basically, lesbian porn. Here are Iori Miyazawa's (author of Urasekai/Otherside Picnic) brief thoughts on the term:

"There are some people who want to split things into "yuri" and "rezu" based on whether those have sexual content, but this distinction doesn't exist."

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I somehow only just realized that what Shiho said about her ex-boyfriend in Chapter 27:

We got along okay as friends, so I was like, "hey, why not?" Didn't work out, though. We split up after a couple months.

was probably meant to parallel Miwa and Saeko's relationship.

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Got it, sorry im not used to this. But to be honest I don't think this can be considered spoiler cause of the oneshot

Regardless of what happens in the one-shot, there's always a decent possibility of adaptations differing significantly from their source material, so I would consider it a spoiler regardless. You weren't talking about the one-shot, but about the raws of this version in particular, so please do tag that kind of stuff as spoilers in the future. Honestly, from the beginning, I think untagged spoilers for the one-shot shouldn't have been allowed, not that there's much point in course correction by now.

I'll also second that. Which simultaneously makes it a very realistic college relationship and frustrating (maybe tense would be a better word?) to watch. Like removing a splinter; it's going to hurt but hopefully the end result is worth it.

Yep. The characters have huge problems with how they (don't) communicate, but they're self-aware and ashamed and you can see where they're coming from. This isn't going to pass without a lot of pain, but you get the feeling that everyone will eventually be okay, no matter where they go from here. Compared to other yuri series, here, I find myself rooting not for the relationship so much as the happiness of the individual characters.

BTW, the official translation has a similar feel to it. Perhaps most importantly, it preserves the "NOOT NOOT."

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^ To be fair, there are other things that Saeko could be more honest about.

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I’m not sure why Miwa was unwilling to tell Saeko the whole story. It’s not as if she has anything to hide.

In the first place, Miwa knows that Saeko has been acting weird when she hangs out with other people (even if Miwa isn't certain that it's jealousy), so telling Saeko that she just exchanged contacts with her old crush, who even invited her to a hotel, probably seems like a bad idea to her.

More significantly, it doesn't seem like Miwa ever properly got over Shiho, so the fact that she showed up and suddenly wanted to be close with her again has Miwa reexamining her own feelings. If she tells Saeko everything that she and Shiho talked about, she'll have to try to reassure Saeko that there's nothing between them, which isn't something Miwa can say with total certainty. It's easier and more forgivable to lie by omission than to lie directly.

That "If you love me, kiss me" part is a microcosm of everything wrong with their relationship; they're trying to use their physical connection to compensate for their lack of trust and a mental/emotional connection.

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I like how easy it is to relate to and understand these characters' thoughts and actions, even if they're problematic.

I feel like, if Rika caught wind of any of this, she would find a way to instantly torpedo their relationship or just force them to talk about it honestly. This seems like the kind of situation where her plot-accelerating powers would come into play.

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but maybe the NSFW parts will be fun.

I'd hold your breath on those, unless you cool with some rapey feeling scenes

Damn. That kind of stuff is hard to accept unless it's clearly meant to be creepy and fucked up, but I would assume this story isn't self-aware or realistic enough for that.

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When there's an extremely long and descriptive title, you know that it's either a LN adaptation or a Twitter comic. Honestly, I was expecting the latter.

This seems way too similar to one of the writer's other works and I dislike the way this writer approaches homosexuality, but maybe the NSFW parts will be fun.

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Yamitsuki discussion 09 Feb 00:28
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Yup, I read the raws and I'm disturbed. Pretty surprising coming from Mochi (though Unfaithful was conceptually kinda similar, with a protagonist trapped in an abusive 'relationship' who goes to someone else for support). I really like minoda's art style. Looks like I'll have more abusive yuri to read alongside KitaKimi.

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^ Thanks, I read those chapters. This series seems up my alley with its dialogue and characterization. I'll start reading it from the beginning sometime soon.

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I know nothing about this series, but after randomly clicking on chapter 80 and reading it, I'm interested.

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GLT flashbacks. Good thing they didn't get far from home. Shimeji's/Majime's dream was unfortunately relatable.

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Hotel when :(

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not gonna lie, my guilty pleasure has always been super messed up relationships like this hahaha; i feel like they don't often get explored in manga because authors shy away from the topics and don't want to "dirty" their work or reputation... which is why I'm happy an author finally decided to throw all caution to the wind and just explore the twistedness of relationships of this nature!

It's certainly enthralling. I can't think of another yuri series with a main pair so far beyond redemption. You can find that kind of thing in one-shots and some very short series, but this kind of step-by-step descent into codependency, delusion, coercion, and physical and sexual abuse isn't something I've encountered in any other yuri work. Maybe Netsuzou TRap is along those lines? I haven't read that, though. With what I've read from Kodama Naoko and what I've read about that series, I doubt it's as well executed as this.

It's incredible (maybe it shouldn't be surprising at this point, but still) how much Hana lacks self-awareness. To take such (seemingly) calculated actions, and then only consciously consider the possibility that she was taking advantage a day later...

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^ It's on Funimation.

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I may be biased, since the manga was my first experience with the story, but I think it really enhances both the horror and the yuri from the LN. The apes, for instance, seemed to be described too flatly and quickly in the LN, while the manga really dwells on them and displays their 'process' really well. I also like the highly detailed 'jumpscare' pages. My only complaint about the manga so far is that Toriko's 'unwinding' around the Windmill Woman didn't seem nearly as dramatic as it was described in the novel.

It'll be great if the anime covers the end of Volume 3 of the LN, which I assume it will, but I'm a bit worried about how they'll adapt the final chapters of the first two volumes, which are also somewhat longer than the average chapter. They'll probably have to cut a significant portion of the scientific explanations and theories, which is sensible for an anime, but I hope they still get across the general ideas about the Otherside's workings and DS Lab's history. The final chapter of the first volume in particular has a lot to cover: Toriko and Sorawo's argument > first encounter with the Time-Space Man > meeting Kozakura and encountering the three women > walking through the Otherside while telling Sorawo's backstory, encountering Kunekune, and discussing the Otherside's mechanics > climbing ladder, seeing Toriko in the glitch town, going to the glitch town > encountering Time-Space Man again, seeing the town fill up with plants, finding Kozakura > following Sorawo doppelganger to Toriko, listening to her, killing the Windmill Women, leaving the blue light. Ideally, they would get two episodes for it, which could happen if the series is at least 13 episodes or they compress another two chapters into one episode somehow.

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Soo...does anyone know how yuri this is? I wanna know what to expect

To begin with, you'll see a lot of Sorawo being flustered by Toriko and jealous of the person she's looking for, but she doesn't really understand her own feelings (or anyone else's, really) all that well. I think the manga is particularly good at emphasizing a romantic feeling in some of these early parts of the story. It will probably be years before the manga reaches the parts that are particularly heavy on yuri, but the latest volume of the LN released in English (in digital form) is pretty heavy on it.

In any case, if the sci-fi/fantasy/horror/adventure elements don't draw you in, this probably isn't the series for you. I will say that the entities and workings of the Otherside grow more complex and intriguing over time.