So it was established that Tokiko's good at shiritori from way back then that's why Satsuki couldn't win.

You guys are reading way too deep into a one shot that's like only a few pages long. The author made a crappy one shot that didn't really work. Some people are comparing it to hentai rape and Emergence of all things? Nah what are you even talking about it's not even close to that level, what a dramatic overreaction.

Though I like the characters in Liar Satsuki more this one seems to have a more interesting mystery and protagonist. I also like how even though she's usually aloof, she can act silly and childish, it shows how her sociopathy(?) can manifest itself in different ways and she's not just the usual one note trope.

Can’t wait for Shi ni Aruki sounds like it has a darker tone

The dude actually has a photo shoot at his school during school hours wearing his uniform and the story plays this straight, no pun intended, zero irony. This manga seems like it came straight out of the 2000s. I love it.

That was pretty abrupt. The last chapter felt like half the length of the usual ones and didn’t really reveal much apart from the sister being married now. We already knew where things stood from the last chapter and nothing really changed, so it was more like a bonus “where are they now?” chapter except they left out Rio lmao. Shame, the slow pace and the atmosphere were the best things for me. I would totally be okay with like 10 chapters of virtually no plot progression just for the vibes this series gave. This would not be the first series on this site to end like this and it’s nowhere near the worst example.

I do wonder if this is a relationship that would last in reality, Matoi is holding on to quite literally an impossible love. Yuri has her emotional needs fulfilled but Matoi’s are not, honestly if Matoi were to move on and fall in love with someone else no one would really lose anything.

The teacher is pretty funny, I’m a sucker for deadpan characters. It would have been incredibly boring if he was just the bad guy.

The light haired girl used "Seo-san." Komachi makes a habit of referring to almost everybody as "given name-chan." Except in 1 other case: Akira, who she calls "Atou-san." It got played off as a joke in chapter 30, but between that and the weird look she gave Akira in 27 (also the first time she even acknowledges her in that scene), it struck an odd chord. Which to be fair happens a lot with Komachi.

You mentioning chapter 30 made me take a look at it again and now I’m even more convinced that it was Komachi who led her to the storeroom. That conversation she had with Akira is sus as hell. “She’s very much alive so it’s fine.” Maybe the reason why she calls Akira “Atou-san” is because a) They don’t know each other very well b) she doesn’t like how close Akira is to Satsuki. I’m pretty sure Komachi calls Satsuki “Minazuki-san“ as well at first so it’s not hard to imagine she would call Seo “Seo-san” as well. I’m gonna try to find any instances of her interacting with Seo before and see what Komachi calls her. And no I don’t think she’s in cahoots with the council. At least not in the way that she cares and believes in the president’s ideology.

I decided to just put this in a separate post. Shiina’s death wasn’t the only one being manipulated, Seo’s was as well. Has it ever been confirmed that it was also prez? Because he seemed to genuinely not have known. There was a long light haired girl that talked to Seo which, I assume, changed the time of death. It could be vice prez or it could be Komachi. But what would be Komachi’s motive and could she have deduced the situation since Akira and Satsuki were acting in secret? She didn’t seem to believe Akira’s excuse at the time. I think if Komachi was yandere for Satsuki we may have a motive since in both times she tried to interfere, assuming that she did in Seo’s case, both victims bullied Satsuki, it would also tie in to why she encouraged Satsuki to be more selfish.

After looking at it for a few minutes. I really don’t think it’s the vice. Her hair looks different. And it would be more natural for a fellow classmate to ask Seo to talk. If a 3rd year and the vice president to boot suddenly accosted you, I think Seo and her friends would be more surprised. Also at this point the prez didn’t know Satsuki has the power that he has so, if it was his plan to kill Seo, it wouldn’t make sense to suddenly change the time of death since the only reason you would do so is to outplay Satsuki. Meanwhile at this point Komachi should know that Satsuki has some sort of ability to predict death, that Satsuki would sacrifice herself to prevent one even for someone who bullies her, and she knows that Satsuki and Akira have been snooping around near the the room and she might have been eavesdropping even before she revealed herself.

It is interesting how the narrator, who’s most likely Satsuki from the future, only referred to her stopping Komachi’s destined death as the one that broke the gears of fate. Afaik she’s never said “X should have died” about anyone other than Komachi and it didn’t seem like a throwaway dramatic comment. The “should” is carrying a lot of weight there too. Is it because Komachi is special or is every destined death that was denied going to have some sort of consequence? If yes then what about the prez? Is causing a destined death breaks fate in the same way as preventing one? I feel that that’s the only direction the story can go to truly challenge Satsuki’s (and Prez’s) almost dogmatic beliefs. I still think Komachi is special in some way though.

Weirdly enough Komachi presented a third option early on to Satsuki. She could just choose apathy or a more egotistical solution and not get involved at all. I wonder why Komachi out of all people thought this way though. She clearly doesn’t lack in empathy, it’s the reason they became friends.

And of course there’s the question of wether or not the author really has thought it through that far from the first chapter. The first chapter has the most foreshadowing out of any we’ve seen. But it wouldn’t be the first time someone foreshadowed things in a story without really knowing how that story is going to develop to that stage or set up mysteries without really knowing the answer themselves. Like is the classroom full of bodies really going to play a part in the future or is it just a shocking introduction for the readers?

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Few things I’m not clear on. Has the prez been doing this since before that first oil incident? It’s said he cleaned up the school and troublemakers started disappearing. If he has, why hasn’t satsuki noticed before? Or does that mean she did notice but failed to stop these murders? But then why didn’t anyone? A school where students kept dying must be suspicious, no? Unless his previous methods didn’t involve anyone dying. But if that’s the case why the sudden change to murder?

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Why did I read this Jesus Christ? I need fucking help holy shit

What an underrated manga. I’ve avoided it because I thought it’d be another edgy yuri but it’s got a surprising amount of heart. The cast are (mostly) surprisingly multidimensional even if some of the development is a rushed. My main problem is sometimes the humor is misplaced so the tone can feel off given the subject matter.

Every character named Yuu in yuri is always unfathomably based. Holy shit the only sane person in this story.

This is so dumb at yet so awesome at the same time

Lovely little story. The author deserves way more recognition, it’s a good thing technology makes that easier these days.

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I really find the male friend character pointless and frankly annoying. He’s only there to build some drama so mc can realise she likes tsundere girl.

He’s only been in like 4 panels lmao chill. And he’s a necessary component of the story’s hook, the entire concept of the manga literally wouldn’t exist without him. Drama isn’t necessarily bad, it could be interesting and a good way to develop characters, not every yuri needs to be a slice of life with no conflict.

Eggon posted:

A lot of them are probably straight men as well who fetishize lesbian relationships.

Please refrain in the future from making such sweeping assumptions and generalization. It really doesn't add anything to discussion and only serve to dismiss and discourage other person from proper discussion and can easily devolve into just name calling.

Is it not true? Many yuri fans are straight men who have unrealistic expectations of lesbian relationships and get mad when their fantasies aren’t indulged by authors. The opposite is true for yaoi, just go to Animate and observe yourself. Let me make this clear, none of what I said is name calling, I mean every word literally.

TotemsInTheNight posted:

How can you discuss loneliness without discussing the elephant in the room, love?

Since when loneliness is inherently connected to love?

I never said love is "inherently" connected, but it is a relevant issue that when discussed can make the story better. I am not saying the story is not good, I'm just saying it could have been so much more.

How in the hell do you think that they don’t love each other? I think it’s pretty explicitly clear that they do, It’s just not explicitly romantic. There’s nothing inherently more meaningful about romantic love compared to any other kind of love. I’m just gonna say it, the people saying it’s worse because it’s not yuri is just sad that they can’t project their own fantasies into the story and live vicariously through them. A lot of them are probably straight men as well who fetishize lesbian relationships.

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Ah I wanted more closure than that

Edit: The people here are toxic as fuck, Jesus fucking Christ. I hated the ending but saying the author betrayed you and it wasn’t worth your time is fucking hypocritical when all of us are leeching free entertainment from that author’s livelihood.

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This ship is immortal

This author is really really talented, I haven’t disliked a single one of their works. And this series is just so refreshing. In a sea of samey stories, this slow and quiet story about coworkers falling in love somehow just hits different.

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Hey that’s pretty good. I mean at least it’s something new and insteresting, I like seeing yuri in more genres than just romance. The framing is good too, really like manga that takes advantage of the medium instead of being static and boring.

this manga really has no flavor. She should of just confessed already so it would of been the last chapter. Why drag this on?

And peoples will have complain it was too short and got axed and so on. Remember that's it's only the 10th chapter, some yuri take muhc longer to come to this point. Why complain to have something not ending after so little chapters.

There’s no reason why the manga should end once they confess, unless the writer doesn’t know how to write people in a relationship. At this point this series is just going to collect more and more bad yuri tropes.

I don’t understand why a lot of mangaka seem to view the confession as the endgame. There is a lot more to a relationship than just confessing your feelings. The couple getting together can be the start not the end, and there’s a lot you can write about people in a relationship without having to arbitrarily extend the will they won’t they phase. Kind of disappointed with this series ngl.

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