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Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

And here I thought the eyes in Vampire Knight season 2 were insane

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

The reverse is also true, just because the story try to tell something without romance in it, doesn't make it good automatically…

But no one said that.

No, but at the same time, saying "People don't seem to be able to appreciate a story without romance these days." is a bit harsh when the said story is average at best. It's too easy to blame it on the non-romance, when I think a lot more people wouldn't be disappointed if the story was better. I can appreciate an average to mediocre yuri story, because it's my jam, but an average to mediocre story like I think this one is, I'm just like "meh, I should have dropped it".

"I didn't like this story," is different from "worthless" and "nothing happened."

Did you see this comment, for example?

the story was just the teenager getting to figure out her life and that is all, the god damn yuri tag and the age gap tag should be god damn wipe from this manga, there was 0 relationship progression, there was 0 yuri in this story, unless you consider them becoming friends yuri and age gap??? like wtf was this story???

So by their own comment, did nothing really happen or?

Anyway, not necessarily this series but it often becomes clear from the way comments are constructed, that if the romance isn't the ultimate focus there's something wrong with the story. Depends on the community though. Series that are more adventure and plot focused for example get those kind of comments a lot, no matter the quality.

I'd say it's pretty unkind to pull that message from what they said. It's very fair to say that yuri and age gap tag shouldn't be here, it's subtext at best now, and there was a very, very long, stagnantness in their relationship that felt very platonic. I think they're just sad they wasted their time, and I am too

It's kind of like getting to end of a video game and the ending blows to you, and it makes you realize how the writing has been cheap and keeping you on edge and then to have no resolution, that sort of thing. Where it's like, wow, if I'd spent money on this I'd be PISSED. but, I didn't spend any money so I'll sleep peacefully, I can't say the same for any lesbian Japanese reader tho, or anyone who got the raws.
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Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

The reverse is also true, just because the story try to tell something without romance in it, doesn't make it good automatically…

But no one said that.

No, but at the same time, saying "People don't seem to be able to appreciate a story without romance these days." is a bit harsh when the said story is average at best. It's too easy to blame it on the non-romance, when I think a lot more people wouldn't be disappointed if the story was better. I can appreciate an average to mediocre yuri story, because it's my jam, but an average to mediocre story like I think this one is, I'm just like "meh, I should have dropped it".

"I didn't like this story," is different from "worthless" and "nothing happened."

Did you see this comment, for example?

the story was just the teenager getting to figure out her life and that is all, the god damn yuri tag and the age gap tag should be god damn wipe from this manga, there was 0 relationship progression, there was 0 yuri in this story, unless you consider them becoming friends yuri and age gap??? like wtf was this story???

So by their own comment, did nothing really happen or?

Anyway, not necessarily this series but it often becomes clear from the way comments are constructed, that if the romance isn't the ultimate focus there's something wrong with the story. Depends on the community though. Series that are more adventure and plot focused for example get those kind of comments a lot, no matter the quality.

I'd say it's pretty unkind to pull that message from what they said. It's very fair to say that yuri and age gap tag shouldn't be here, it's subtext at best now, and there was a very, very long, stagnantness in their relationship that felt very platonic. I think they're just sad they wasted their time, and I am too

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smirkingtyrant
Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

I just have to say
the part where Yoshiko succumbs to Junko's charm and gets pulled in is SO
SO fkn good.
x.x
I love the toxicity of this

smirkingtyrant
Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

And that's what we call an unreliable narrator

DUDE THIS WAS LIKE A LESSON IN WRITING

Im just

god so good

And also hot as fk

smirkingtyrant
Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

THIS
WAS
SO
GOOD
THIS
WAS
SO
GOOD
HOLY
FUCK
i was like "what is this shit"
and then i was like "WHAT IS THIS SHIT"
and then i was like "THIS AUTHOR IS A GENIUS"

read it thrice, ultimate satisfaction

so good

just... so good

smirkingtyrant
Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

This and Black and White ending, finna cry x.x.xx.x.

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Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

shouldn't this have a stalker tag since the character herself feels stalked and is calling her a stalker and she doesn't really deny it?

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

The title got me excited, but now I almost feel lied to

A useless succubus who does t understand sex gets dominated by mysterious lesbian biologist where she has proper sex for the very first time... This is dum

Is the twist that kanade ia the actual succubus and Leanne is just a delusional human gurl who's down on her luck? That would at least make sense in a "I am Mari" sort of vein

She understands sex, she just didn’t like the previous experiences. It’s not good sex because it’s lesbian, it’s good sex because the biologist is soft with her and is asking for consent and ducking her the right way

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

Have now reread 3 times. I am gonna purchase. Also, love the jealous dude bro energy from certain comments above

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

Amazing

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

[80 yr old chiaki] SAGGY BOOBS ARE THE BEST!!!

IDK WHY THIS MADE ME CRY

long day at work...
i love the gays

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

As a fellow boob lover

amazing

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

I WANT TO WRITE A FIC OF THIS

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

THIS CHAPTER WAS SOOOO GOOD IM CRYING

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, domestic violence is defined as follows:

Domestic violence is the willful intimidation, physical assault, battery, sexual assault, and/or other abusive behavior as part of a systematic pattern of power and control perpetrated by one intimate partner against another. It includes physical violence, sexual violence, psychological violence, and emotional abuse. The frequency and severity of domestic violence can vary dramatically; however, the one constant component of domestic violence is one partner’s consistent efforts to maintain power and control over the other.

Domestic violence is an epidemic affecting individuals in every community regardless of age, economic status, sexual orientation, gender, race, religion, or nationality. It is often accompanied by emotionally abusive and controlling behavior that is only a fraction of a systematic pattern of dominance and control. Domestic violence can result in physical injury, psychological trauma, and in severe cases, even death. The devastating physical, emotional, and psychological consequences of domestic violence can cross generations and last a lifetime.

There are 5 forms of domestic violence

  1. Physical Inflicting or attempting to inflict physical injury

example: grabbing, pinching, shoving, slapping, hitting, biting, arm-twisting, kicking, punching, hitting with blunt objects, stabbing, shooting

Withholding access to resources necessary to maintain health example: medication, medical care, wheelchair, food or fluids, sleep, hygienic assistance Forcing alcohol or other drug use

  1. Sexual Coercing or attempting to coerce any sexual contact without consent

example: marital rape, acquaintance rape, forced sex after physical beating, attacks on the sexual parts of the body, forced prostitution, fondling, sodomy, sex with others

Attempting to undermine the victim’ sexuality

example: treating him/her in a sexually derogatory manner, criticizing sexual performance and desirability, accusations of infidelity, withholding sex

  1. Psychological Instilling or attempting to instill fear

example: intimidation, threatening physical harm to self, victim, and/or others, threatening to harm and/or kidnap children, menacing, blackmail, harassment, destruction of pets and property, mind games, stalking

Isolating or attempting to isolate victim from friends, family, school, and/or work example: withholding access to phone and/or transportation, undermining victim’s personal relationships, harassing others, constant “checking up,” constant accompaniment, use of unfounded accusations, forced imprisonment

  1. Emotional Undermining or attempting to undermine victim sense of worth

example: constant criticism, belittling victim’s abilities and competency, name-calling, insults, put-downs, silent treatment, manipulating victim’s feelings and emotions to induce guilt, subverting a partner’s relationship with the children, repeatedly making and breaking promises

  1. Economic Making or attempting to make the victim financially dependent

example: maintaining total control over financial resources including victim’s earned income or resources received through public assistance or social security, withholding money and/or access to money, forbidding attendance at school, forbidding employment, on-the-job harassment, requiring accountability and justification for all money spent, forced welfare fraud, withholding information about family running up bills for which the victim is responsible for payment.


do we think that the nonconsent path (rape kiss, slap) of this relationship is going to continue?
i pray not. in any case, there are lots of resources for domestic violence, dont ever feel alone. i hope that some of this has been helpful to people who feel ill at ease with some of the violence in manga.

last edited at Aug 29, 2023 11:23AM

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

It’s as easy as asking “can I kiss you” . I’ve never had a girl I’m on a date with say “Omg how could you ask” but I sure as hell would slap ANY person who forced their lips on mine without permission

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

This chapter is clearly meant to be sweet and all, but I just can't link her explanation to her slap, I can only make sense of it by concluding that it's a rationalisation

The slap was a panicked reaction to having a drunk person violate her personal intimate space. The discussion here is more about why she's been weird about the whole situation after the fact.

It's not just some drunk violating your personal space, it's your crush kissing you while an intimate mood has been built up

Do you tell that to people who have others force kisses on them during dates? Sexual boundaries are just as important as physical ones.

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

"I'm afraid that if I ask for more from our relationship you'll end up unhappy or resentful of me."

"But I'm sure I can slap the shit out of you and that won't make you in the least unhappy or resentful of me."

As I already pointed out, they were both wrong in that situation, and they've both apologized for it.

I don’t understand how people can think kissing isn’t a violation but slapping from being scared of a kiss is suddenly damnation for the person who had the emotional reaction. It genuinely makes me sick , the lack of empathy on dynasty scans

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

yet i still wonder, what good is an empty apology?

OK, I guess I’ll bite:

What is “empty” about her apology?

What would constitute an apology that was not “empty”?

i wonder why it is, that you always seem to need a clarification on some of the most basic concepts?

anyway, an empty apology is a meaningless expression of regret for wrongdoing, and in regards to chapter 30, its displayed in how the author has minimized the ill will of the victim of the wrongdoing, to the extent that the apology given rings hallow, instead it ends up feeling like some kind of a bad joke.

after all, the author set up this sham of a dramatic plot line by having a non-consensual kiss lead into surprise domestic violence, then payed said drama off by having the victim of domestic violence blackmail the victim of the non-consensual kiss into giving her a kiss on the cheek she slapped, in the name of calling things even.

and, i would love to say that this is the end since this is already bad enough, but for some reason the author is hell bent on making this manga the best comedy possible, as kurumi proceeds to once again steal a kiss from ruriko repeating the mistake that started the drama, and yet this time its seen as an acceptable act somehow?

tldr.

What is “empty” about her apology?

her apology feels “empty” as a result of the author making light of her wrongdoing.

What would constitute an apology that was not “empty”?

serious reflection and genuine introspection.

The “kiss steal” is to show that this time there is no boundary being crossed, she is not violating the boundary again lol. Felt like a very genuine apology, tied up with some sugary sweetness, but writing is one of those wondrous things where it hits everyone involved differently.

I for one hope this series gets at least two more volumes

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

How come this has a kissing scene while Crescent Moon and Doughnuts doesn't? Lol

Ikr! Bored me silly

smirkingtyrant
Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

D-do they bang after this? Maybe Im just pervy...

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Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

I think Fuuko is a hero because she's hot and manipulating people is badass. She's the Odysseus of this story.

Yuni's actions make perfect sense here and she's 100% making the right play. She wants to have her cake and eat it too, so why wouldn't she rush into Nanase's arms? It's not like Fuuko will give up on her. Yuni wants to have BOTH Nanase and Fuuko obsessed with her, and this is a step in the right direction.

Nanase is the only one acting irrationally here. She should dump the cheating bitch and get with her volleyball friend. She's blaming herself because she didn't pay Yuni enough attention, but that's stupid. God damn, have some self-respect.

THE ODYSSEUS OF THE STORY

I LOVE THAT ANALYSIS

Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

I didn't know people could get banned on here for differing opinions, kinda lame

smirkingtyrant
Dog%20me
joined Oct 3, 2018

Liked seeing senpai again