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I love the credits as always xD
But seriously, with how that panel with Ayano telling Miyoshi she loved that about her was set up, I was really hopeful we'd get that BA-THUMP moment from Miyoshi and finally at least see some mutual pining. But that's on me, I should've known better, lol. Even Ena is making progress with Yumimi faster than Miyoshi is catching on about her OWN feelings, let alone Ayano's, and with the former's self-esteem issues, that's really saying something.
Speaking of Ena, the fact that she was able to sum up the courage to articulate her feelings as much as she did in chapter 238 before Ayano can sum up the courage to tell her best friend she loves her (knowing full well Miyoshi would assume she means it platonically) is telling in its own right. Either Ena is secretly a lady-killer on par with Kaoru, or these two are just absolutely hopeless- and I think we all know which is more likely.
last edited at May 18, 2022 9:15AM
I can't get mad at Watanabe for this one. She wasn't consciously converting Yoshioka to the yuri side... And to fall for her. Although once she learns, she better takes responsibility. Still couldn't help but feel bad for Yoshioka at the end there.
I won't lie, but I have a hard time following the background characters. I call them NPCs because as much as I try, I can never really follow who was who, and I admit to being a bit too lazy to try and re-read previous chapters to get the context.
Same! I was gonna be annoyed if I saw people dissing on her again in the comments for this, when she's done nothing wrong this time. Yoshioka jumped to that conclusion herself, however much Watanabe's actions implied. That said, I do of course feel bad for her, just like I would any character in this situation. But I look forward to the 'misunderstanding' plotline, as a key yuri flag and all.
And same again. They just seem very...dry. And not yuri, lol. Even when it seemed like their classmate had feelings for her onee-sama, it ended up being just more sisterly stuff. I mean, I'm pretty sure it's on purpose to defy Watanabe's expectations (it'd be just like this manga if Watanabe/Yoshioka ended up being the only actual yuri, lol), but still. They're just kinda dull, I guess.
I'm dead, I sure am DED!!! Because that was heaven!! Tokino is kinda the true beautyqueen in this series. She got the eyes, the fasion, the rather eccentric charisma and cardigans worth more than my entire cabinet!
But what matters more.
NAO WTF?!
I mean, dear god ,WTF?!
THOSE WERE ABSURDLY PERVY AND SHOCKING FANTASIES!!
HRMPF......!!!
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.....I begin to love her more and more....We're talking about somebody who has literally fantasized about stripping naked in the middle of class, aren't we?
Yep...Nao is one friggin interesting character for every psychologist. Don't get me wrong, it's not that she is ill or something. Quite the contrary. Interesting to know, how she got this desires, how she nutures them and what really REALLY is happening to her...hot damn. If I were a psychologist or someone analyising social behavior, this school would be a friggin playground!
I get what you mean! I tend to people-watch and just sometimes get totally caught up in why someone acts a certain way. And then I try to have a conversation about it and everyone just looks at me like I'm crazy, like, 'why do you even care'? xD
That said, I doubt that was in the author's head writing her, knowing the content of this series. She was probably originally meant to fill a kink niche when it was still super ecchi. Which is actually probably one of the reasons I don't care much for her character...
But yeah, I totally agree, haha!
Ahh, don't sink Hibiki/Midori Dx
They're one of my favorite ships (I ALWAYS end up liking the most niche/rare ships, lol), they just play off each other so well with Hibiki's teasing and Midori's sort of made up rivalry with her! Plus, I just...don't really like Nao. Like, she's not BAD, just...she has no character/personality we've really seen outside of 'exhibitionism'. I'm a huge lover of character development and slow relationship build-ups, and Nao is just like...the opposite. Not that I'd be opposed to seeing another side of her- just maybe with someone who isn't already paired up. Or part of one of my favorite couples, lol.
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Watanabe's yuri puritanism is her only major resistance against Yoshioka. And Yoshioka has good ATK vs Holy.
She can even see the 'missunderstanding card' coming so the main reason she won't ask is because she KNOWS it would mean yuri progress
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/yuri_is_taboo_to_a_yuri_otaku_ch09#5
Omg I didn't even think of that, but that's totally true! I'd just assumed it was just that she didn't want to give away her feelings, but I wasn't looking at it through yuri goggles, lol. Of course she'd see the flag as well, as a seasoned yuri otaku! Plus that's, like, a mandatory flag for all anime/manga relationships, yuri or otherwise!
last edited at Apr 27, 2022 6:29PM
See??? I knew it. You just have to be patient, jeez. What fun is a story where everything is perfect immediately? The fun is in watching the character grow, which Watanabe did in spades this time around. I guarantee it wouldn't have been nearly as heartwarming if she'd just immediately gone from yuri otaku to perfect Mary Sue. Good stories show characters growing as people- just because they take a grand total of eight chapters to get there doesn't mean the main character deserves to be relentlessly bagged on for being flawed. It's no fun if everything starts out perfect/all the protagonists are paradigms of humanity. Nobody wants to read that.
Shrugs
As long as I find it amusing enough I don't care either way.
I'm the same way- I was referring to those who commented solely to bag on the main character. It just bugs me when people think in black and white (i.e. Watanabe is either ALL good or ALL bad- i.e. hating her purely on the basis that she's oblivious to Yoshioka because she thinks differently than most people). There were so many comments that existed solely to bash the main character, and it just annoyed me that people had so little patience when it was obvious this would be a character growth manga.
I'll admit I definitely got too worked up over something pretty insignificant, but it's just that I've been telling people all along to be patient, and that the growth is what makes the story great. It was just frustrating, that's all. It might also have to do with the fact that some of the ways Watanabe thinks remind me of myself growing up with undiagnosed autism. People just assume you mean the worst when your brain just works differently.
But that's too deep for a fluffy yuri manga- I'm just glad to have another update, especially now that it's getting into the good stuff (not just those two, but also finally getting some real yuri vibes between the friend and her onee-sama!).
last edited at Apr 8, 2022 11:37AM
See??? I knew it. You just have to be patient, jeez. What fun is a story where everything is perfect immediately? The fun is in watching the character grow, which Watanabe did in spades this time around. I guarantee it wouldn't have been nearly as heartwarming if she'd just immediately gone from yuri otaku to perfect Mary Sue. Good stories show characters growing as people- just because they take a grand total of eight chapters to get there doesn't mean the main character deserves to be relentlessly bagged on for being flawed. It's no fun if everything starts out perfect/all the protagonists are paradigms of humanity. Nobody wants to read that.
last edited at Apr 7, 2022 10:39PM
Ah yes, Ayano and Miyoshi collapsing into each other's arms while blushing and shivering. Hm.
Real subtle, I know.
And with this chapter, we've established what we knew all along:
Kishi is the MASTER of subtlety. Truly.
I only read this just now and after glancing the comments I'm surprised that Watanabe is disliked, she isn't mean or anything, just... over the top awkward.
Most of us don't necessarily dislike her so much as we want her to have character development and grow out of her "must stop the gyaru from contamining my yuri" before any relationship takes form.
She is, though. Like, (almost) every chapter she gets a little better. My problem is that a lot of the commenters here (obviously not everyone falls into this category, just a lot that I've read) seem to just expect it to happen overnight and aren't really showing any patience with her character. But if it just magically happened that way, there'd be no real plot, and the manga would be pretty boring.
Yes sir, that over there is the guy who dares question dynastys current fluff addiction, now he is only two points away from a medal
Sorry, what? I'm confused. I'm not super active in the comments as a whole, so I'm not sure what you're talking about, lol.
I only read this just now and after glancing the comments I'm surprised that Watanabe is disliked, she isn't mean or anything, just... over the top awkward.
Most of us don't necessarily dislike her so much as we want her to have character development and grow out of her "must stop the gyaru from contamining my yuri" before any relationship takes form.
She is, though. Like, (almost) every chapter she gets a little better. My problem is that a lot of the commenters here (obviously not everyone falls into this category, just a lot that I've read) seem to just expect it to happen overnight and aren't really showing any patience with her character. But if it just magically happened that way, there'd be no real plot, and the manga would be pretty boring.
I only read this just now and after glancing the comments I'm surprised that Watanabe is disliked, she isn't mean or anything, just... over the top awkward.
Right??? That's what I've been thinking! Maybe that's just because I was (and am, tbh >.<) always super awkward too, but still. She's just oblivious and sees the world differently than most (which makes her awkward). Maybe it's my autism talking, but I honestly find her character funny and (somewhat) relatable.
But then, people always disliked/avoided me, too, growing up, so. Probably not the best example, lol.
I think my main issue was how awful Watanabe has treated Yoshioka. Be it in her thoughts or not. Meanwhile, Yoshioka turned out to be this nice girl, a great sister, and overall a good person. All because she didn't fit with the narrative inside Watanabe's head. Now doesn't that sound familiar huh? Now I'm not sure if it's a clever setup or not, but if it was, bravo.
Regardless, this chapter was a nice step in the right direction. I just want to like Watanabe. I already like Yoshioka. Let me like the other protag.
I think that's what the artist is aiming for here- note we've seen no actual yuri so far in any of the souer relationships. I'm pretty sure this manga is explicitly intended to make Watanabe grow as a person neon just seeing things through yuri goggles. This last chapter pretty much proves it, imo, with the president actually telling Watanabe that she's essentially a character too. And I think Yoshioka is the perfect person to pull her out of this shell she's made for herself and show her exactly that.
I don't know, that's just me. I don't love Watanabe, but I don't hate her the same way most people here seem to. Maybe because that's how I've seen the manga from the beginning...I've never thought it was just going to be about her staying some crazy yuri fangirl. She's a flawed character, sure, but the fun is in watching her grow, and I honestly can't wait to see how that pans out. She's clearly already starting to see Yoshioka a little differently just based on her reactions- I think it's more that she's kind of given herself a mental block (hence the title), but her body and heart are clearly on a different page. I think the main part of this manga will deal with Watanabe learning to get past that and really see herself and others as more than characters in a manga.
Help I'm going blind in the latest chapter
Not sure if you're actually having trouble seeing it or just commenting on the optical illusion, lol, but just in case you do want tips, try looking at the images as a whole (without focusing on any details). Then let your eyes unfocus so that the images blur (I usually see double when this happens), and then SLOWLY adjust your line of sight until the image kind of...melts together.
I'm sorry, I'm really bad at explaining it- my brain often works a little differently than others' because of my Aspergers, so sometimes I have a hard time expressing my thought process in an understandable way. Check out some of the other posts on this page if this was just, totally confusing/unhelpful, haha. Different ways work best for everyone, and at least a couple other people have given different methods you could try :)
last edited at Feb 22, 2022 11:24PM
Aaahh I got it!! Lol the Ai and Chie one got me, I was like...okay? And then I saw the note on the next page and was like, OMG!
So essentially, for those of you unfamiliar with stereoscopic images, they're those 'magic eye' things you probably saw when you were a kid! But most of the time they're blocks of color/tiny images that only look like something AFTER you unfocus/cross your eyes, however you do it. This one was really cool- it looked like a pop-up book!
Also, in case anyone needs a different kind of tip (different things work for different people, so in case anyone is having trouble seeing it), what I do is just stare at one point on the image (images in this case) until my eyes unfocus. Then I slowly adjust my gaze (as in, how much I'm focusing, and on what parts of the image) until the image kind of...melts together. It's hard to describe, but the most important thing is to unfocus first so that you're not looking at the images separately.
I'm bad at describing these things- usually I go about things in my mind differently from others because of my Aspergers. For example, I heard of all of the methods people use to view these and none worked because it simply didn't translate well to my wavelength. I just kind of experimented and finally got it to work, haha. If this made no sense, check out some of the other answers, there are at least a few different methods listed here that you could try :)
last edited at Feb 22, 2022 11:29PM
Haruka and Kanae's little snapshot really shows their dynamic. Which I love btw- based on how we say Kanae at first, I would have expected HER to be the clingy/needy one. I love the role reversal trope.
I'm STILL upset at how their relationship was handled though. Judging based on their interactions after Haruka's note, I'm assuming they've entered a relationship since. I'm so salty about all of that being off-screen- they were my favorite couple and I feel like that was a total rip-off. I really hope the author doesn't do that with any other couples, especially Nononon and Yumimi (my current favorite- I also love Hibiki and Midori. This is very classic me- my favorites are ALWAYS the side/beta couples).
I still have PTSD from Shizuka chapters. I can usually handle cheating stuff but Mio was a mess after that even after they made up. Too much realism.
Late, but I agree. Having been in a complicated bad relationship before that still affects me nearly a decade on, it's extremely hard for me to read those two. They used to be my absolute favorite but Shizuka's handling of the situation seriously bugs me, as well as Kaoru's apparent lack of remorse for how she treated Shizuka (everyone seems to forget that Kaoru was the one who started the mess in the first place, and Kaoru was also the one who provoked and tempted Shizuka before she met Mask). Kaoru's situational amnesia/hypocrisy also really bothers me. A lot of people seem to have totally forgiven/forgotten, so I was like...am I just being irrational? But looking back, Kaoru provokes/tempts Shizuka up until until moment she falls for Mask, and then does this ridiculous 180 and starts acting like a Saint telling Shizuka to move on and focus on Mio despite her (Kaoru) being the one who deliberately messed things up between them to begin with.
Mio deserves better. I get the author wants to add drama but at some point even in fiction enough is enough. I don't believe for an instant Shizuka is actually over Kaoru, and, while this almost NEVER happens to me, I will actually be MAD if she hurts Mio AGAIN after everything because of it. I'm not the type to get mad at fictional characters, mind- usually I'm the one rolling my eyes at people who do. After all, a fictional character only does what the author intends and therefore, all their actions can be considered within the realm of their character. But this thing just hits so close to home, and Shizuka and Kaoru are both toxic in their own ways, and Mio just doesn't deserve to be caught in the middle of it. Even with my toxic experience, I wasn't totally innocent eventually. In reality, a person gets bitter and snaps back. But Mio is just too sweet and forgiving for this (even including the alleged kidnapping). At some point, there's a boundary that shouldn't be crossed even for fictional characters.
I'm always so excited when this manga updates, but yeah. I'm not looking forward to this next chapter. Though I am admittedly curious as to what Mio meant by 'kidnapping' Shizuka (or whatever word she used, I forget).
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I'm not usually super excited about the shorts, but I always look forward to the credits page! This one was brilliant
Yes Honoka, you're gross. Grossly beautiful.
Being the younger sister of kaoru and being constantly compared to her must have been difficult for Honoka as she was growing up giving herself a massive inferiority complex.
Thanks to Eli's friendship (and hopefully much more ;) )
the little ugly duckling ( not in reality but from her own mental and emotional view point ) is turning into a beautiful swan.
Exactly. Kaoru herself is the only person we've seen in Honoka's family who never says hurtful things to her, either directly or indirectly- this is actually Kaoru's one saving grace in my opinion. But just her existence is a sore spot for Honoka as it gives the rest of their family a comparison.
Eli really brings out her true self. And I'd love to see more of Honoka channeling Kaoru in the future (i.e. 'get your hot ass over here, Eli', lol). She really is even more of a top than her sister, as others have pointed out- I love seeing that side of her come out with Eli, even when it's not so obvious.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS I Love these sisters together! And you know what's the best? is like the honey and wieners, you wouldn't think they would be good together but once you get a taste, you can't stop! (but I won't try the recipe, I want an oneesan to feed me).
But yeah, emphasis in these sisters, they have totally different styles and taste, only thing in common would be their sexual orientation xD and yet Kaoru loves her sister so much! that's so cute! still waiting for the moment she sees Eli with her sister, she will realize immediately what's going on and that moment will be great.
Thank you very much for the chapter!
I just commented on their relationship myself, lol- I totally agree! As I mentioned before, the only time I really care for Kaoru is when she's shown with Honoka. And I totally agree about Kaoru picking up on things right away- she's got a sixth sense for those things, after all.
Also: can you imagine the chaos if Kaoru and Eli teamed up to get Honoka to admit her feelings? I have a feeling those two would hit it off IMMEDIATELY- which would of course be a disaster for Honoka.
last edited at Sep 18, 2021 6:26PM
I have to say, even though I dislike Kaoru alongside the others, I like her alongside Honoka. Her personality is funny alongside Honoka, when there's no risk of her breaking some other poor girl's heart. They play off each other really well, and I actually enjoy seeing their sibling dynamics, it shows a new (but in character) side of both of them. Kaoru as the useless older sister and Honoka as the long suffering younger sister is fun to see!
(I would be Kaoru in this situation- and I'm the older sister as well, lol).
Also, a bit off topic, but: as much as I tend to dislike her, Kaoru is a very good sister. If younthink back to some older chapters, it's shown that despite Kaoru's teasing and Honoka generally viewing her as a nuisance, Kaoru is the only member of their family (that we meet) who never puts her down some way. Her mother compares her to Kaoru and seems to generally see her as a bit of a let down, and an uncle was shown playing favorites. But Kaoru is always supportive of Honoka. The only thing she could be accused of in regards to Honoka is simply existing as a comparison, which is obviously not her fault.
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Also- I really don't care for Kaoru, but I cracked up at that last panel. I can see that being exactly what happened too, since they're apparently part of the same group (with Shizuka, who at this point I'm just assuming Mio smuggled off to some uncharted island in the middle of the Pacific).
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Woah, we just jumped about ten steps in one chapter. I can't even properly express my thoughts, lol!
But seriously, these two are my absolute favorite- the whole time I was reading I couldn't believe we were finally making progress, and all at once!
So Ena lost her nerve (I'm shocked she had it to begin with, but as someone with similar self esteem issues and shyness, I can relate- rip off that bandaid), so I don't think they're quite THERE yet, but this marks the turning point I've been waiting for for literal years (WOW this is a long-runner). And I LOVED seeing how much Yumimi is actually affected by her (the teasing is clearly just a cover up). I just hope they don't go the whole 'resolve things offscreen' route like they did with Haruka and Kanae (who used to be one of my favorites before that happened). Speaking of, I`m still holding out hope that somehow there was a misunderstanding and Kanae doesn't recognize her true feelings (because we all know Haruka knows EXACTLY what she feels for Kanae but maybe the latter doesn't see it because of how she used to be alone ). BUT I'm pretty sure that's just wishful thinking. I just can't believe they'd do us so dirty T_T
Kaoru is the most toxic character in this series. She's Teflon Jill, impervious to consequences and karmic retribution: nothing sticks to her no matter what she does. It's like the universe is always at work to protect her from everything, whether it's getting splashed with mud on a rainy day or being hated and ostracized for her womanizing ways.
Only time her teflon armor failed her was when Shizuka dumped her for her constant cheating. It was so unbearably shocking to her, the idea that her bad actions had consequences that could come back to bite her, that she even fell ill for a while. And even then in the end she got the last laugh as the universe couldn't let this outrage go unpunished: one day Shizuka came in tears and begged Kaoru to take her back (at the time Shizuka had realized that Kaoru was finally moving on); and of course Kaoru with a satisfied grin told Shizuka to bug off and go comfort herself with Mio. And in this way Kaoru was avenged and Shizuka's humiliation was complete. That's how life works for Kaoru.
What annoys me the most is that when Mask told her in clear terms that she wasn't interested in her, Kaoru decided that she was not going to take NO DAMMIT for an answer and continued stalking Mask, pestering her, touching her, kissing her... and once again, not only there weren't any bad consequences to these actions, on the contrary, because of all of this Mask started feeling an interest in Kaoru. Kaoru won again, yay! /S This kinda thing is what I call toxic for real; Mask mixing some resentment with her love and admiration for Onibi, that's nothing.
This is exactly what I've been thinking. My god, Kaoru pisses me off. It's a little irritating when people gush over her, and I'm just like...so, what, she finally gets a real love interest and now she's top waifu or something? Like, she still did awful things. Shizuka is kind of a shitty person now and it's entirely her fault- and then when she's confronted with the results of her own choices, its just "lol sorry, go kiss your first year". AND she has the nerve to look down on Shizuka while doing it. I'm no big fan of Shizuka, but I see her getting the redemption arc treatment, or something like it- I see nothing of the sort from Kaoru, it's like she's just been totally absolved of any and all guilt. Let's not forget who started the whole mess in the first place, yeah?
Of course my opinion isn't entirely unbiased- my first year of college I had experience with someone who was much like Kaoru. Disloyal, dishonest, self-centered without even the wherewithal to be aware of it. Of course, she had a friend manipulating her, but that really just adds 'ridiculously gullible' to the list...Anyway, it's just always been a sore spot for me. I just really don't care for Kaoru, and if you've ever been in my (or Shizuka's) position, you'll understand all too well.
And I agree with the Mask thing- compared to Kaoru's karma houdini act (which can cause serious harm to those around her in the future and distort her own image of herself), a little jealousy rooted admiration is nothing. It's actually pretty normal- it's just that Mask goes about it in a theatrical way in this chapter, haha.
I love the afterstory- that's literally what I was thinking xD They were like, the only hold out...except I guess the two first years, Hibiki and the girl from the manga club (I can't recall her name at the moment), though they've had their moments, so it's just a matter of time (?).
Edit: added an apostrophe xP
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