I'm not saying they have to do it at the same time, though 69 is an option wink. I was just saying that they both should do it. As in one takes the lead and then they switch. In many NSFW one-shots, there are 2-3 sex scenes. So there is plenty of "space" to change it up. I was just confused over the idolization of the top-bottom seme-uke thing. Seems that others have the same opinion though. I couldn't know, as I have never read a comment saying "I wish they switched it up" and only "She is the top bla bla bottom bla bla".

You've never read someone saying that? Comments like that are pretty common in Sekihara's work, with a couple of exceptions. And on Love Live doujin discussions, I see "why is Nico always the bottom" quite often.

Hmmmm. I fail to recall, though I have also wondered why Nozomi is always the bottom. I guess when you feed people so much of the same couple with the same outcome, they begin wishing for a change too.

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Some are more "mild" but have the same message behind them. Like:
Girl 1: "I don't feel like i'll be winning no matter how long i live."
Girl 2: "Wait, you thought you could win?"

This was from the series "Out of the blue!"

This is just a random couple teasing each other. One girl happens to be easily embarrassed while the other is a bit bold. This isn't uncommon in reality or romance as a whole, so how is this "top-bottom" yuri?

Don't worry, they've read more yuri than you.

I can taste the salt. I should probably put it in the pile created by LoL, Overwatch and CS GO players.

I was going to give my opinion but I'm afraid the amount of yuri I've read doesn't qualify for this level of topic

gud haha

I think it's also worth looking at the simple storytelling concept of contrasting characters. Tall vs short, light vs dark, passive vs active. In short one-shots especially you don't have a lot of room to establish character differences, so in porny stuff it's a pretty obvious choice to make them different in bed.

Plus, if you're too wrapped up in "both of them get to do it" you often either get the "all lesbians do tribbing and it's incredibly intense" silliness or an awkward position to have both of them visibly getting off at the same time, or else the partners each going down a checklist of things to do to each other. Some artists pull it off really well (Sekihara's Hanayo x Maki doujin comes immediately to mind), but for a lot of them it's just awkward so the comparatively easier "one tops and the other bottoms" is a safer approach.

I'm not saying they have to do it at the same time, though 69 is an option wink. I was just saying that they both should do it. As in one takes the lead and then they switch. In many NSFW one-shots, there are 2-3 sex scenes. So there is plenty of "space" to change it up. I was just confused over the idolization of the top-bottom seme-uke thing. Seems that others have the same opinion though. I couldn't know, as I have never read a comment saying "I wish they switched it up" and only "She is the top bla bla bottom bla bla".

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Some are more "mild" but have the same message behind them. Like:
Girl 1: "I don't feel like i'll be winning no matter how long i live."
Girl 2: "Wait, you thought you could win?"

This was from the series "Out of the blue!"

This is just a random couple teasing each other. One girl happens to be easily embarrassed while the other is a bit bold. This isn't uncommon in reality or romance as a whole, so how is this "top-bottom" yuri?

If you read the manga you would know. She says that she doesn't always want Girl 2 to take the pace, and that she wants to be the one making a move. Clearly top-bottom. But that was an example that was supposed to be more ambiguous, as i had been cherry-picking the other two

I don't. One of reasons I like yuri to begin with is that there are no set roles in bed.

Yaas

Personal preference and what sells. Also, those quotes sound like they're from cartoon villains, like you've been looking at too much generic hentai or something.

Read Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter or something that pokes fun at those "roles."

(What goggled said too)

These quotes are from "Mira", "Natsuneko" and many other creators. Though they might not be 100% exactly as they were written. It was just from what i remembered. I also gave the examples that were most "harsh" to further my argument. Some are more "mild" but have the same message behind them. Like:
Girl 1: "I don't feel like i'll be winning no matter how long i live."
Girl 2: "Wait, you thought you could win?"

This was from the series "Out of the blue!"

The thing about generic hentai was uncalled for, as I have 100% read far more yuri than you have.

I have a question. Why do so many people like the top-bottom kind of thing in yuri? It makes no sense to me. I was looking at some images on the site this morning, and i kept seeing comments like "Well, guess we know who the top is" or "When your bottom does not know its place". I find this weird as hell. Is it not far better for the girls to both give and receive? Why should one dominate and the other be a sub? I get it if the girl only likes receiving and stuff like that, but 90% of the "top-bottom" yuri is about enforcing these roles. "Hehe, you thought you could take the lead, even though you are a natural sub" or "Leave this to me, you are a bottom". These are the types of "quotes" i see in so many one-shots. Why is it that the other is not allowed to give, and why is it that so many stories have only one giving? I am confused about this top-bottom craze. Can someone enlighten me on why this exists?

Rest in peace. May you be greeted by tons of cute girls in the afterlife, and may you live in a yuri-harem

This.

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I am searching for one-shot with a blind girl, and a girl who looks like a delinquent. She gets cured at the end. I think her name was Kyoko

The "I'll play around for a bit, but I like guys" thing is suck a cockblock... How is that in any way necessary... It's not yuri then... just some tease

Now I understand why this manga is called citrus because chapter 36 has left such a bitter taste. I understand why it had to happen but at the same time Mei could have at least had the courage to say it to Yuzu's face instead of putting it in a letter. Yuzu will not have closure that she deserves instead she will have unresolved feelings and it will be harder for her to move on. The letter does give an insight to what Mei is feeling but this is a manga and main characters not communicating with each other is how you make drama. If I was Yuzu I would at least have wanted Mei to tell me face to face rather through a letter but its a manga so a letter will do.

I think the word you were searching for is "sour" not "bitter"

Can someone tell me in which chapter the big sister and glasses girl gave a hint on their future romance? ( i saw that in this chapter they were together). I do not remember them ever giving the hint of being in love with each other.

Even if it does become a happy ending... I just feel like the relationship didn't do anything to get there. Saburouta had an entire series to make it believable and she failed miserably at it. I'd be cool with this if there were say, 3-4 volumes left to go. But with only one 4 chapter volume left? Good luck making that work.

Are there only 3-4 chapters left????? How do you know that?

Please don't let Mei fuck the fiance!... I feel like i have to write this 10 times and then sacrifice a goat over an altar to Satan, so that, for the price of my soul, my wish will come true

This was a terrible way of ending the whole story. It reeks of the author getting bored with it and moving on. Sure, Japan (like many other countries including my own) has a thing against gays and lesbians. And Japan has a hard-on for family inheritance of businesses and institutions. But that's not what bothers me.

What bothers me is how we got to this place. The story ends not with a bang but a whimper. It was a story of romantic and sexual tension between two characters that saw no movement toward release and resolution. It just... ended. That's weak storytelling. And really, this has been my feeling throughout the series. I had a feeling it was going to end like this. I really hoped it wouldn't. The premise of it was really great. The art is fantastic. The girls in it are absolutely beautiful to look at. But this inability to allow the relationship between the two of them to grow or change is what really killed it for me. Sure, their own personal feelings would change and whatnot. But that's what makes the whole thing feel so artificial. Relationships are like people. They grow and change right alongside the two people who are in them. And in this story, it never did. And it just felt very wrong.

Soooo... Yeah. This is a very disappointing series for me. You can take apart what I say and tell me how wrong I am if you like. But that's how I feel about it.

It has not ended yet though. The series is ongoing

I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!
I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!
I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!
I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!
I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!
I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!
I beg that Mei hasn't fucked her fiance and will share her first time with Yuzu!

Btw, how long was the time-skip? A year?

The issue being Kodomo no Jikan got one back when the anime environment was more friendly for those sorts of things.

Darmn, I miss those days

So, you miss those days wherein lolis were fetishized and student-teacher relations involving a 10? year old girl were glorified?

Yes.

Nice bruv <3

Such a shit fucking game. Don't play this crap. You will feel betrayed and empty like I did

SPOILER Amber is the worst kind of human being. Whilst Marina is on top, she keeps commenting on how bad she is at at, and thinks of her exes. Like, who does that. And as if it wasn't bad enough, the bitch was so bored that she faked her orgasm.... Marina had a wide smile while asking her if she came.... How can you betray someone like that... what an absolute bitch

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Man... I am not masochistic enough to enjoy bad endings in yuri... i cri

Well aren't you the sensitive one. Let me remind you that this is a work of fiction. Let me remind you that Mimika is also underage. Let me remind you that it is a consensual relationship. Let me remind you that this age gap is not that big. If the girls were 40 and 20 you would have no problem would you? Even though the age gap is so much bigger. The age of sexual adulthood is also diff. by countries. Some have it down to 12, which i think is Yuzumori-san's age. Stop being so triggered.

Looking at your recent comments, you seem to be just trolling around, trying to pick fights. Please cut it out.

Nah. No trolling. The last comments being discussions can be logically explained. Let's say you read something. Either a manga or a comment. If you agree with the manga or comment, there is no need to say anything so you do not reply. But if you disagree, then you are more likely to leave a comment giving your opinion, either it being subjective or objective. Basic psychology.

Well aren't you the sensitive one. Let me remind you that this is a work of fiction. Let me remind you that Mimika is also underage. Let me remind you that it is a consensual relationship. Let me remind you that this age gap is not that big. If the girls were 40 and 20 you would have no problem would you? Even though the age gap is so much bigger. The age of sexual adulthood is also diff. by countries. Some have it down to 12, which i think is Yuzumori-san's age. Stop being so triggered.

Hahah you are like that, aren't you? Either that or just a troll like Nez said.
Kids will never have an adult's or even teenagers ability to consent. They literally do not have the "brains" for it and many other things until after 15.
You start by defending it as a "work of fiction" but then proceed to get butthurt about the other details.
You know what? PEADOPHILIA IS NEVER EVER JUSTIFIED EVEEEEER, we can even write a song about it mr. PedoTroll.
"Stop being so triggered because if you dont I will feelz bad I haz these pedo feelings and you saying they arent fluffy like this story buhuhuhu"
Good for you that you didn't have that happen to you (being raped/molested by an adult/older teen) * applauses *
Still admiring how author handles Mimika's feelings and looking fwd to that time skip that seems to bother Andrei (I am guessing bc Kaede wont be a kid anymore and he wont have the hots for her)

Slow Claps Well why do you read it then? Don't read what you don't like. And if you do like it, well, there is no reason to badmouth it. This is not a one-shot, so there is no way for you to have read it and then realized that it is not for you. So just don't read it. And yes. I love picking meaningless fights, because discussions are fun. By Bentham's philosophy, the relationship is ethically correct, as the amount of happiness over-weighs the unhappiness (if there is any to begin with). Immanuel Kant would argue that it may not be as ethically correct because it is pedophilia, but that depends on the country and what people deem pedophilia to be. If a girl was 18 and the other 16, is it pedophilia because she is not of "legal" age? There are always two parts to a discussion. Your statement has subjective feelings behind it (so does mine, but i can at least bring logic into it and not personal problems that did not take place in the manga). Seeing it objectively, nothing about this is illegal. No sex. No "taking advantage".

I'm sure I read this on Dynasty once but it's not under the authors work. It's by Chisako and called either Yokubou Parade or Parade of Desires. Girl sells her body in order to use the money to buy pricey goods. Another girl comes along and tells her if she stops prostituting herself she'll buy her all the stuff she wants. Am I dreaming?

She wasn't exactly prostituting herself.

I don't know whether it's been translated into English, but Yokubou Parade certainly exists and it's in the tank Wagamama Mille-feuille.

Where can i read this

The principle of this story sucks. What the fuck kind of logic is this? I'm unsure if you are going to survive, so i'll go around fucking one or more guys just in case