If the characters were real and being hauled before an ethics tribunal consisting of Dynasty readers, the definition of “lying” and “omission,” etc. would be relevant to the verdict.

Please don't give dynasty forum members ideas.

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So now that she knows her oniisan is a girl, she has fallen into despair. Thankfully, I trust this author not to speedrun the relationship at this point

I feel like I'd be fine if they just slowly made up and became friends. It has the potential to be such a nice relationship regardless of how far it goes

I agree. I don't want it to go the "he's a girl so that must mean I'm gay" route, since that would be unrealistic. Instead it should start with them being friends and her learning to love Koga for who she is instead of who she thought she was.

While i generally agree, a lot of Aya's attraction to Mitsuki’s work persona is based on mutual interests etc over just liking them based on their "maleness" so for the most part those seeds are already there.

At first i thought it was just going to go the old slow cold but eventually opens up approach, wasn't expecting the the neediness. It's great.

Yessss TaaRO! I love her art so much.

Also to answer some of the posts further up, it probably feels like a fusion because a lot of Taiwanese doujin artists draw comics right to left (not always the case, but common). Japan occupied Taiwan during the first half of the 1900s so there's still a lot of Japanese influence.

Oh, i didn't realise they were Taiwanese. That makes sense.

The last page of chapter two made me laugh out loud. Slightly curious about why it's RTL even though the names are Chinese.

The whole manga feels like a fusion to me. The clothing aesthetics and the characters are Chinese but the Art Style and layout feels Japanese.

Please remove the tag "kabedon". First, it is just for threaten. Second, if it is kabedon, that means hetshit.

That's still qualify as Kabedon sorry

Yeah it's still a Kabedon in action, just not in a "romantic" context.

But the word means romantic for east Asians

It has connotations sure but really it just means Wall Bang..

Tanya was a toddler when, Melissa was a teenager, so there must be a solid 10 year gap between them. Considering Tanya's yet to hit her growth spurt, she must be 13-14 and Melissa should atleast be 23-24. Unless Tanya's a loli. But it's all speculation until the creators clear it up themselves. Maybe witches age differently, who knows.

I think you mean preschooler (2-6), toddler is the 1-2 year bracket and she was definitely older than that.

I can't say i'm surprised that people are suprised that she's a teenager.

Please remove the tag "kabedon". First, it is just for threaten. Second, if it is kabedon, that means hetshit.

That's still qualify as Kabedon sorry

Yeah it's still a Kabedon in action, just not in a "romantic" context.

Depends if your definition of "subculture" is the same as the OP's in this opinion.
Seems they think that being part of a subculture involves following specific "rules" - those being you can't ever project an image of something else. Forgetting, of course, that some people just want to suppress their individuality at school and be "themselves" at home, and that's okay, actually.

Yeah no, i just don't agree with either opinion really.

If you are one of those three, you never "take off" your clothes or makeup.

There's no real indication that she is part of any of those subcultures though. She could just be wearing what makes her happy and/or matches the aesthetic of her workplace without being part of a given subculture after all. Someone wearing dark clothes and nail polish and having piercings isn't automatically a goth after all. Just like wearing jeans with holes and baggy flannel shirts doesn't automatically make you grunge.

She wears clothing that matches the aesthetic of the music she listens to, isn't that part of the defining traits of a subculture? Subcultures aren't clubs, they're ultimately just categorizations of people with similar interests.. I do agree though that she isn't a goth or uhh "grunge" (i hate that word).

That's why we don't apply American subcultures on settings outside America and expect accurateness.

I'm not American nor live there, these subcultures are all over the world and we all have slightly different interpretations of them but they all have unifyng traits that are not country specific.

If you are one of those three, you never "take off" your clothes or makeup.

There's no real indication that she is part of any of those subcultures though. She could just be wearing what makes her happy and/or matches the aesthetic of her workplace without being part of a given subculture after all. Someone wearing dark clothes and nail polish and having piercings isn't automatically a goth after all. Just like wearing jeans with holes and baggy flannel shirts doesn't automatically make you grunge.

She wears clothing that matches the aesthetic of the music she listens to, isn't that part of the defining traits of a subculture? Subcultures aren't clubs, they're ultimately just categorizations of people with similar interests.. I do agree though that she isn't a goth or uhh "grunge" (i hate that word).

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Yeah definitely, i can imagine quite a few people at their school listening to bands like Babymetal as it's manufactured to attract people who like more pop elements in their music.

Yeah, though funnily I have a friend that's on the opposite end who isn't into pop stuff, but he's a huge Babymetal fan haha

I'm the opposite, i'm not into pop (apart from the 80's) and can't listen to babymetal. I prefer my metal to be very very heavy, if i want pop i'll listen to 80's stuff lol

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Tbh i think the bands referenced encapsulate what someone would consider "different" in a country that has a large music industry comprised largely of Jpop/Idol pop.

Well and then you have big bands in Japan like "Dir En Grey" as well, and they arguably make the bands in this manga look pretty tame haha

Japan has quite a good metal scene but i think you can divide that between mainstream metal and more underground metal as well with people tending to gravitate towards the more mainstream stuff.

All genres tend to have mainstream equivilants.

You still have to enjoy what you listen too. They're interested in bands that people in their classes would most likely not listen too. It's all relative.

True enough yeah. I was mostly saying that while Japan does have it's whole Jpop/Idol scene there's also plenty of big bands that are more in the metal and rock genres there as well. You also get popular combos like "Baby Metal", who Western musicians such as Rob Zombie have love for haha

(I'm not a Rob Zombie fan, but seeing him defend Baby Metal from his fans being hateful towards them was cool to see.)

Yeah definitely, i can imagine quite a few people at their school listening to bands like Babymetal as it's manufactured to attract people who like more pop elements in their music.

Tbh i think the bands referenced encapsulate what someone would consider "different" in a country that has a large music industry comprised largely of Jpop/Idol pop.

Well and then you have big bands in Japan like "Dir En Grey" as well, and they arguably make the bands in this manga look pretty tame haha

Japan has quite a good metal scene but i think you can divide that between mainstream metal and more underground metal as well with people tending to gravitate towards the more mainstream stuff.

All genres tend to have mainstream equivilants.

You still have to enjoy what you listen too. They're interested in bands that people in their classes would most likely not listen too. It's all relative.

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Tbh i think the bands referenced encapsulate what someone would consider "different" in a country that has a large music industry comprised largely of Jpop/Idol pop.

I don't think the music necessarily is. I don't think a lot of teenagers even in the West are going gaga for Aerosmith or Black Sabbath.

I also mention the music factor because at least for the audience on this forum it seems to be a huge point of discussion, and people talking about their love for the music in this series, and their fond memories growing up with it.

.......And it's at this point that we realize that the vast majority of the people writing comments about this comic are actually middle-aged guys with a nostalgia for old rock music and dad bands. o3o

I'm not exactly middle age, but I really really hate their playlist. This is because the music is mostly main stream and very commercial. To me, the music list is 100% bad taste. They are trash. Sure the artist can dig out something that is more obscure but representing the sub culture the main character is in? Guns and Roses? Yuck. (LA Guns is much more tolerable before they drop the "LA" and add "Roses" and became commercial and main stream.) Axel Rose is an idiot

It's funny cause the label Grunge was created as a way to commercialise the music and Nirvana was the commercial face of the terribly named genre.

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Fun Fact: Kurt Cobain was a big fan of Aerosmith.

Mai reminds me of Hotaru from Non Non Biyori.

Just two gal pals bonding over music.

Hopefully people noticed that there was a time skip of about a month in between chapters 3 and 4.

Everyone has a kink or a fetish that can drive them crazy (Even if you say you don't it's just that you haven't found it yet). Hers is smell.

Kinks are more common than fetishes. Kinks enhance a persons sexual experiences where as a fetish is something they can't do without. Kinks are a want, Fetish is a need.

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Tbf i have read the official translation so my viewpoint is going to be a little skewed.

I don't know why people are being so aggressive towards him. I have read the 6th chapter though.

He's a male in a yuri, and not an obviously harmless brother or wingman, in fact is set up as a potential disturber of the yuri romance.

Considering they mention he's married and his wife had a child, he seems pretty harmless to me.

. . . Except the child was concieved while he was dating her which clearly shows he isn't above cheating, which is also a strike against him.

You're reading assumptions made by other office workers as fact. This is an example of why gossip can be damaging.

Jesus, people, this isn't "Oooh, Men bad yuri good," literally everything we know about this guy is red flags.

I don't think we've seen enough of their love life together apart from what could be considered office gossip to really make assumptions of red flags. Like sure they had some issues but the manga plays it off to me as not anyones fault and is pretty vague about the wole thing.

By the way, if i quote something from the official translation but from the chapters already released is that considered a spoiler?

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The new event feels like a bit of a drag sonetimes.