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From what I can see, a lot of you guys still believe Seju still has a chance. God, this girl has so many faithful believers for her, LOOLLLL. I feel ashamed of myself, LOL
For this, I choose losing over winning but dislike the outcome. I've said before I really doubt TG has "a ball" to end sumin with seju since it is unpopular choice that will get a lot of complaints. Or the editor will allow it. But if TG has done this far to develop seju's character... why she needs to stop now?
So for Seju to be back, she has to believe that what sumin has for her is love and all.
Tough one. Really tough one.
Seju doesn't need to comeback. Sumin can follow seju, since it's her turn to make a move. At the same time a way to proven sumin's intention
not too familiar with the inner workings of the Kpop industry, but I have heard of those "dorms" of YG... Sketchy.
Neither do I, lol
Teayeon is a fantastic singer. When I first heard a GG song, her voice stood out to me.
Winner is good too, agreed. Have not listened to the others, but I will look into them.
Will recommend this song:
Akmu :
1. dinosaur (a song about their experience with debt collectors, when they were a kid they're too poor and need to run away abroad and dropped out of school)
- Melted (a song about people in city (adult) who is so cold, a young naive boy with dream which is ruined by people, ... the metaphors is a lot here)
Bolbbalgan4:
1. Galaxy (bubbly song, to sleep well at night lol)
2. We loved / you and me from the start
My theory is right afterall, after depression comes acceptance. Seju finally able to move on, she is a strong girl to be admired.
Sumin.... what can I say more, karma is a bitch. Feel sorry because even after all this, many still blame her only and praise highly on sungji action. Really? Innocent or not, if you kill people, you has killed people. Her disappearing act has no excuse, she could end it better. I doubt I want to see sumin and sungji together after this.... to many reasons against it.
Sungji... finally she got what she want in early chapters, sumin only thinking of her.
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Sumin finally bought a TV.
The answer of how to pass time... watching tv!
I might sound like Vanbun in this comment but that scene reminds me of Girls Generation Taeyeon. She is famous for her baby face who looks like kid sometimes.
See! We aren't that delusional after all. Lol
Seju becomes the best third wheel fictional character I've ever read so far lol. In case there is no twist.
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The author seems to watch GOT too, well it's the trend in Seoul. Ep7 is a satisfying ending because a thing happened.... Anyway, TG successfully give a reason to dislike Sungji character... lol.
Her oath not to hurt her love one doesn't make sense to me now, please some sungji stan give an explanation what sungji thought, because she is kinda "subhuman" now lol. Her words and actions didn't align, it's like calculating and get syntax error. XD
I don't hate her but she becomes more unrelate-able character, just like she always does lol.
Another interesting chapter, so will we get another twist or it will went the obvious way from here?
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@Vanbun, when you were talking about Sungji trying to change Sumin's life, did you mean to compliment her or criticize her? lol
None lol
Should have expected from a non-Sunji fan. lol
And are you a sungji fan?
@Vanbun, when you were talking about Sungji trying to change Sumin's life, did you mean to compliment her or criticize her? lol
None lol
I like to read physiology lol.
Psychology
Ooops
LOL what if the whole time we thought that TG were these amazing and innovative writers but it turns out they just made things up as they went and didn't really have a plan and in the end they just end things without tying up loose ends XDDDD
Lmao
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LMFAO. You mean like a crow getting to Dany overnight and she arrives to save the day ACROSS THE CONTINENT first thing in the morning?
Yep
In westeros we have whatsapp, the flazz, olympic gold medalist, and 3 jets
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I hope wdtfs won't end like gots7e6. It's still pretty fun to watch and the cinematography is beautiful, only if you set aside the details.
Because there's a disturbing plot holes
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Does breaking your gf's relationship with her ex or making your gf forget her ex mean that you are trying to change your gf's life? Did Sungji learn anything about Sumin's life and knew that it's all because of Seju?
That's too, but seju is like sumin only family left. And sumin only friend too, beside maybe nami.
It's like when a gf order her bf/gf to stop communicating with his circle of close friend/family, this happen quite a lot in real life.
For me it's changing how and whom people interact with, it limits individual freedom. (Justin bieber song love yoursel play... lmao)
"And when you told me that you hated my friends
The only problem was with you and not them"
I know in case that the close friends or family is toxic for the partner, it's reasonable for gf to ask this way. But sometimes it's a manipulative behavior use to make someone relying only with the partner and it makes someone easy to be bulied. (Read article about reason why domestic violence happened and why the victim doesn't left the partner sooner) I like to read physiology lol.
I don't say sungji is manipulative, lol, but yea... for me her act is a way of trying to change sumin. Sungji said in ch 89, even an image seeing seju and sumin together hurt her.
So by this means, she doesn't even want to see sumin alone with seju, if sungji try to be more honest. Sumin pass is all about seju, just like seju. Sumin has warn sungji before, well, dating someone with a lot of emotional baggage is hard... and it's sungji first experience, so kudos to her. I don't blame her, inexperienced people make mistakes.
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She coped when sumin behave badly, trying to "change/protect sumin life" by saving her from seju.
What did she do to change/protect Sumin? Don't remember seeing Seju trying to kill Sumin.
I forget either nora or yoonie gave her analysis about sungji used to think that seju is toxic/bad for sumin, so she always act as guardian for sumin.
Sungji told seju : "I won't let you hurt her", "why you need to be bad", etc
It's in the past... now I believe sungji think seju as another girl who love sumin too. (Not abusive & manipulative ex)
Cut it short, (forget what chapter) sungji also thought she can seperate them (sumin-seju bond), but when she face the reality, later she said it seems "their bonds/root" can not be easily cut.
For me it is a form of sungji try to change sumin life, make sumin forget/break her relationship with seju, which sungji "almost" succeed.
After posting a lot, I begin to think sungji action in ch 90 as a foolish move, it complicates things.(Aside other discussion that it might also be a commendable act or coward act or whatever)
But we need drama to reach climax,so let's wait for new chp
Plus thanks for compliment, dildozer and esoteric :D
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I think all the three characters has their own flaws and traits, no one is perfect/without blame now. Yet only smart eyes and open minds can see all faults of the three, not judging in black and white.
The easier fault people can see is seju's
Seju fault is her cheating, and choosing holding on dying relationship for too long.
Her defense is she did it all for love and human makes mistakes. Just like what she said, she doesn't care other people thinking, she will fight for whatever important for her. Her discreet attitude and acting high & mighty sometimes taken as manipulative behavior by some readers.
Then we can see sumin's fault:
Sumin fault is her ignorance and falling in love with 2 ladies. Lol. Only After half story, she finally accepts what she feels, and after 3/4 story she realize what she did wrong both to sungji and seju. But we can see her effort to make it right, you can't ask for people to change completely. Sumin can't just kick out seju off and living happily ever after with her new found love sungji like what some readers expect sumin to do. No matter what, seju is someone sumin used to(or still) love dearly. Sumin is in debt with seju in a way. It will make her character becomes more unlikeable if she doesn't experience a lot of things like what shown in manhwa, before she is able to decide to part with seju completely.
Sungji fault is a hard one, but keep in mind that what she said to sumin in early chapter.
She lets all this mess happens. Sumin has given warnings, and sungji is the one who open the door without any invitation. Just like any other first love, she did a hell of mistakes. She is giving herself rather quickly, and keeping silent for things that matter to discuss about. She avoids confrontation many times, e.g when seju told that her and sumin is a sex buddy and sumin is drunk. Sungji could ask as sumin's girlfriend.
She coped when sumin behave badly, trying to "change/protect sumin life" by saving her from seju. And when she realized it isn't like what they used to think... all this make her insecure, and doing dumb decisions, like in ch 90
Sungji is not bad, but she is at fault too lol.
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Lol yeah dawoon is a better example.
That's a reason her appearance cut short since she is just that straightforward toward sungji...
I want to mention her but doubting if she is that straightforward before going back to korea
@yoonie
It's rare seeing you take sumin's side lol
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I can't name one good communicator in this entire Manhwa lol.
Hmm.... the man who likes sungji?
When he likes sungji, he try to approach her in obvious way and said his intention. After turned down by her, he said he won't bitching and he did.
If my memory isn't wrong, he always do what he said. when he is curious about sungji and sumin relationship, he confirmed it with sungji?
But because of that he is just a side character without any interesting plot left, just a tool for filler.
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I actually love Quora. I tried some searching, but I don't think I'm looking in the right place (the ones I'm seeing are like 20-something year olds getting "ghosted" in a tinder-like-fashion. Could you link me a couple of the ones you're looking at? I would like to get some insight on that perspective :)
If you want me to find a post /thread that I accidentally read 3 years ago... I will give up lol XD
Find this when I google, one thread
Of many others about disappearing act
http://www.anewmode.com/topic/why-men-pull-the-disappearreappear-act/
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But seriously though, my sincere question, some of you guys are Sumin fans after all
Sumin just abandoned her 10 year ex gf who she has always felt guilty at, who she has always cared for, just right after her father's funeral, when she is the only one that gf has left. She goes against her emotions and care to do all that for Sungji but ended up being left behind by Sungji in the middle of crowd, under the firework without a word. This is what she gets for doing all that for Sungji. Dont you guys feel sorry for her at all? Do you think its fair for her?
Another reason why what sungji did isn't that great.
Sumin has tried to give everything she possibly can to sungji after the cheating. And this is what she got... karma is a bitch
No, it will not be commendable the other way which is not "Sumin loves Seju more", why? Because of her famous line that makes her become someone everyone loves "I will not let the person I love get hurt anymore"
This sentence was said but if she chooses to leave only because she pities Seju or because Seju needs Sumin atm, this is just a very very nonsense decision from her because she doesnt consider Sumin's feelings on this matter and how much hurt she gives Sumin when she leaves without reasons.
So no, the other reason is not commendable.
I believe Sungji is commendable either way because she was able to identify that the relationship she was in was causing her more grief than happiness and ended things. That's worthy of praise by itself! It's not always easy to walk away from someone you love/loved! (Look at Sumin and Seju, they can't end their relationship after 10 years lol.) She doesn't need to explain because Sumin and Sungji's relationship has been on the rocks for the past like 15 chapters!
I feel like Sungji has done quite a bit of considering Sumin's feelings. It's been clear to Sungji that Sumin's heart is not completely with her. Although Sumin says she's only worried about Sungji, it's obvious where her mind really is.
She says that line about being taken advantage of as if she's accepted it already. She's accepted that she might just not have a place in Sumin's life right now.She leaves Sumin without giving her a reason (Sumin really doesn't need a reason, I'm sure she already knows). If Sungji gave Sumin a reason, Sumin might just go back to feeling guilty about wanting Sungji but also feeling like she needs to care for Seju. Trying to do both is just hurting everyone. There's a grace in the way she left Sumin.
Sungji says, "I won't let the person I love get hurt anymore." I love that line by her! Very brave of her. Just because she stays with Sumin, doesn't mean Sumin won't get hurt anymore. This may hurt Sumin, but in the long run it might help her. Ripping off a band-aid in one go HURTS, but it's better than prolonging the pain.
Now Sumin can have the space she needs from Seju and Sungji to decide what she really wants.
If you saw it like that... yeah... now I know why people might see it as commendable.
For me Having a *ball to end a "false" relationship with someone you still love isn't enough to be a commendable act.
it's just an obvious thing to do. Lol
What I dislike about is how sungji end the things, she disappear without words lol.
And no... you can't make someone to read your mind and know what you think inside. I doubt The clueless sumin know the reason.
And this farawell will haunt people more longer because most of the time, the victim won't get any reason. It's my most unlikeable way of ending relationship... it's a cowardly move... This disappering act.
If you have time to visit quora, or any relationship forum. There is a lot of cases with disappearing act. And most of the victim shared that it's an awful things to experience becase it left you hanging, with somekind of delusional hope and this bad experience will imprint in your memory.
Forget about closure.
I even read that someone is going traumatize and even after this person get a new relationship... she is still paranoid/worry if it will happen again
So ending false relationship is good, but doing a disappearing act is WRONG
Sidenote: I feel that TG doing this way just to dramatize things... the scene is pretty
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You seem to be really obsessed with GG Taeyeon's resemblance with Sumin xDDDD
I am busted.... (X_X") Is it only me...... ? Yet, I must say her image/aura change between 2 years ago when I saw her and this year. Dunno why... before she looks fierce, nowadays she looks fragile. She lost weight for sure, despite being so tiny still. I know idols look thin/fit, but there are some with volume, and some is just a "stick", eg. hyoyeon and this year yuri have volume. Taemin, krystal, this year wendy, yoona, sooyoung, moonbyul, this year solar, etc is a stick. I prefer figure of an actor or actress, they're more fit, and suprisingly so slim still even with the abs.
This year taeyeon is too "girly" to be sumin if it makes sense.
She doesn't think like you, trust me. I can tell you are not even sure what is in her mind.
I am not sungji to begin with lol.. yea I trust you. Noone is sure of other people mind, real life or fiction (without speak buble of course) iIt is just the way I see things
Can we make conclusion that we agree sungji act on ch 90 isn't an angelic/Commendable act like what someone said?
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You seem to be really obsessed with GG Taeyeon's resemblance with Sumin xDDDD
I am busted.... (X_X") Is it only me...... ? Yet, I must say her image/aura change between 3years ago when I saw her and this year. Dunno why... before she looks fierce, nowadays she looks fragile.
She doesn't think like you, trust me. I can tell you are not even sure what is in her mind.
I am not sungji to begin with lol.. yea I trust you. Noone is sure of other people mind, real life or fiction (without speak buble of course) iIt is just the way I see things
Can we make conclusion that we agree sungji act on ch 90 isn't an angelic/Commendable act like what someone said?
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She chose to leave this dramatically, without explanation, literally left Sumin hanging, there is only one reason to explain it, the author still wants this love line to continue, and not officially end, it opens the gate for this couple to be the ending game, a very convenient way, lolllll, if she cut it clean, well, we already know the ending couple. This, only makes this couple more relevant even though this looks like a break up by making Sungji look nicer and more noable, lolllllll
Well, it might be. Honestly I am still skeptical with seju x sumin ending, knowing how popular team blonde is... and the fact that:
1. sumin has choose sungji over seju before
2. seju in a stage of moving on.
3. Ch 86 seems like a fan service for team pink because the ending couple will be team blonde.
The scene of sumin walk in this chapter and you can do anything to me.... Somehow I have seen this pose in GG Taeyeon before. Lol
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about the part where Seju doesn't realise Sumin's true feeling, I agree kinda of.. but then Seju is a very smart perceptive person, I guess she didn't allow herself to see Sumin's true motives.. it could be a fear of disappointment like in ch3.. but to totally have no clue, this is questionable.
Seju is indeed smart, but love can make even the smartest person become dumb easily. Hence, love is blind quote. Anyway, it's reasonable for seju to avoid the disappointment as it's a part of human defense mechanism.
So you're right, all that above is what makes someone as smart as seju.... well... confused/doesn't have clue.
Btw, there is a firework, do we have a time skip? Is it new year already?
Lol Nora will tell you that based on the time line it is still November now and based on the fact that Seju is still wearing the same clothes she did at the funeral and the fact that sungji said she will meet Sumin tomorrow i.e. the next day. It might be some other festival in korea not new year.
Thanks to mention that seju still has the same outfit... I am weak for details like this lol
momonosuke
Agreed, to begin with sumin and sungji relationship is not as perfect as what team blonde fans said. It lacks communication about important matters, both hiding their own emotional baggage to each others.
Sungji doesn't given up solemnly because of her pity toward seju.
For me the deciding factor isn't about seju's family affair..... it's when sungji see how gloomy sumin face can be when heard people talking about seju.
Sungji face changed after that panel.
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It's been really a wild ride.
@LustGreed Sure, it will. One side need to be heartbroken since both sungji and seju is stubborn enough of not wanting to share sumin with anyone else. Yet, somehow I want a threesome ending because all 3 characters are just awesome lol it's just fiction afterall. But in reality, yeah sumin needs to choose one between the two.
I'm not smart like her, I don't see her breaking up with Sumin as anything other than a needless decision.
@Sia It's indeed a needless decision from outsider pov lol, since sungji is already winning if she let sumin deny her feeling for seju. She doesn't need to break up.
But Sungji said she won't let sumin be hurt ... previously she thought seju is toxic, that's why she tried to separate sumin and seju. Not anymore. If the imagination of seeing sumin and seju together can hurt sungji much (ch 88), How about the hopeless feeling of wanting to help someone you care but you aren't able to? *for e.g pulse story. I can see sumin restraint herself, while she still cares and this make her gloomy.
So yeah, it's needless but important for sungji since she cares about sumin.
*Damn you sumin, you're the luckiest manhwa character alive whom loved by 2 awesomely characters. No wonder she was or still my bias character..
@Nora89
Can blame seju if she feels reluctant or not confident enough to see it. Because the main character in question (aka sumin) doesn't realize or not willing to admit it too. At least for this one, it's thanks to nami for slapping the fact to sumin.
I am saying seju is on the way of moving on because these past chapters we can see seju acknowledge sumin x sungji relationship more and expect less for her and sumin to be back together. (Ch 86 - she will just cling on the pass/memory)
She can move on while still loving sumin, if that makes sense to you.... hmm...
Let me say it nicer way...
Seju can move on (she given up to be with sumin), while still love sumin (but not given up her love)
Just like when a husband lost his wife (death), he can move on and accept that his wife is gone, but still loves her forever until he died as well. Kinda romantic right? Or.... well, he can re-married later after few years pass.
@yoonie
I notice, before wdtfs is finally comes to an end, you might have "101 ways of how to end wdtfs story" in your mind. Lol You're quiet imaginative
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Vanbunn
#notallteamyellow
I know, that's why I said "has more" means not all pink team is mature too, same with yellow team, not all is childish too.
yoonie0104
And what is the remaining 10%?
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I have this crazy idea since last night, LOLLL. About Saehyun xDDDDD. That he is actually the remaining danger Seju has xDDDDD, that if she agrees to go with Saehyun to the villa, she'll be at the place where only Saehyun knows the location, only him and Seju for the rest of life xDDDDDDD.
a good netorare ending I must say! Will there be someone shipping him and seju if they don't have blood related?
It's quiet refreshing to see sungji inside mind (speak bubbles) about how she likes to talk about things with sumin more, somehow giving a hint of the core of sumin x sungji relationship. And show what they lack the most, communication. These past chapters mostly only show how sumin and sungji fit sexually.
I must applaud how TG can still make the ending couple hanging, when both ship can be switched over only by releasing each new chapter. Yesterday the pink ship is shrinking, today it's blonde ship. Funny enough when pink ship is shrinking, I don't see much seju fans blame the author or shaming them. We're mourning but we accept the way the author wrote the story. Shaming the author just because you don't get what you want, looks like a kid mentality to me. Can I assume that pink team has more mature mind? Lol
Two months ago, I said there are two option, either seju move on or sungji given up. It seems we get both!
- Seju is on the way of moving on We can see how seju has acknowledge that sungji is special and different compare to any sumin exes. Although knowing all that, she "beg" to sungji to release sumin since it's all what matters for seju.
Ever heard about 5 stages of grief? This applied especially when someone losing her love one.
Denial - seju said nothing is changing, sungji on the other hand said its different now (sungji is correct)
Anger - well, she yelled at sumin, said she is just human, told that sumin always blame her and don't believe her.
Bargaining - refusing to sell sumin house, then replace it with "living together", beg to sungji.
Depression - ch 90
This "beg" is her final effort... the reason why she don't resist when sumin said that farawell on ch 89. It's natural for seju to have depression now, along with her father death, what comes after is acceptance.
2.sungji given up.
We must judge sumin by her action not her talk. Sungji realize this. Although sumin choose sungji, seju matter is still bugging her. Even if sumin is the one who walk away from seju, yet she feels as devastating as seju. Sumin tried her best to keep it hidden, by showing how she care a lot about sungji now. (And hiding the fact that she still care about seju) hence the red scarf and leftover mitten, and the strangers talk about seju in cafe. (Ch90)
Sungji is smart, she realize it. She has been thinking a lot lately. Although knowing people might taking advantage of her kindness, she choose to do what she thinks right. It suits her character development so far. She knows the bonds between sumin and seju can't be easily cut.
We only have 3 chapters left, anything can happen.
The ending for both couple is still possible, because
1. Seju still loves sumin much.
2. Sumin has chosen sungji over seju before
3. Sungji still like sumin
4. Sumin still care for seju, admit it or not
We need factor #5, to determine the end couple, hopefully can find it on next chapter. Since finding the ending couple on last chapter won't satisfy the reader.... at least for me, I want to see their story and development , all three of them after this mess.
Ch 91 - realize the ending couple
Ch 92 - finalize it
Ch 93 - after story
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