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The chapters on mainstream ripoff sites are rough editing and translations, by fans tired of waiting and waiting to put out something so that ppl can at least understand the gist of the plot
Ah. I see. Now that you've explained it, I kinda understand now why the quality is rather...okay, no comment. Thanks anyway.
I don't....this...too much...fudge. My heart aches so much. I felt like all the strength i have in my body got washed away and...it's not because of my feet injury that is so painful but this is much more painful. Oh my God...the feelings here are so strong and I'm only at chapter 9. I can't go on much further. Call me weak but this is too much for me. Too much....the angst level is over 9999 and...oh my gawd...too much...like, c'mon, there must be a limit of how much someone could ruin her own life right? I mean...maybe these things do exist and...it hurts. The feels, man. It hurts so much. Their physical, psychological, mental, and other blah-als are so much in pain and there's no way to get out of those. I shall stop at chapter 9 and raise the white flag. I'm sure the artist has good intentions in writing this. It's just a series of unfortunate events that I couldn't handle. Oh gawd..too much...good luck to this series and its readers. I have a weak heart so I am out. I'll just go back and read the ending when everything is over.
Sigh. Since I am so full of negativity and shiz, I therefore conclude in my miserable brain that this story is another one of those good stories that just suddenly stopped and no one will ever know the ending. Just like the best K-ON! fanfiction I have ever read "No, Thank You", which just died and the last updated was like 4 years ago. It can't be helped.
Well this is such a horrible day. No FF update and the update on Magi was terrible too. Morgiana and Hakuryuu being together is pure BS. Oops. Ranting on the wrong thread and on the wrong community. Lol.
Anyway, see you Ssamba in two weeks. I hope I survive and find another manga/manwha to keep me busy until then... ._.
I also have to agree, because we're outsiders and see various moments of their past and present we know that Sung-pyo is a nice guy and would never do anything, not to mention we also know part of what they think and that he still loves No-rae, but it doesn't really matter if he's a ex-boyfriend or just a friend, even if he is someone No-rae trust I just don't see any reason for Seol-a to leave him alone with her because she just don't know him, I think this should be the same if it was a woman, it doesn't really matter what kind of relationship they have, their gender or how much No-rae trust them, unless it was someone Seol-a knows she can trust, like Hye-gyeong or someone from No-rae family, why would she leave them alone with No-rae? Now if she knew Sung-pyo well enough to trust him like she knows Hye-gyeong then I think it wouldn't be a problem, but of course even if this was the case I doubt she would leave them alone because she wants No-rae all for herself. xD
But I have to admit that I kind of feel pity for Sung-pyo, he tried to quickly think of a excuse to stay with No-rae and Seol-a easily destroyed it and he had to run away with his tail between his legs, I actually think she would have easily destroyed any argument he could have made, I guess when Seol-a wants to mark her territory there's just no one that can win.
As for this in real life, I don't think it matter the culture, if you need to leave a drunk or unconscious woman with a man, in my opinion it should be with someone from her family, preferably her father or brother, it can also be a uncle, cousin or grandfather if you know they're close, I do think you could leave with a male friend or ex-boyfriend if he's close enough that both of you know he can be trusted, but unfortunately how many male friends or ex-boyfriend you know that really are friends with a woman? Unfortunately most man and woman don't even believe friendship between opposite sex is possible, so unless it's a good guy with who they are friends for many years, which is rare, I don't think you can really trust a man to take care of a drunk or unconscious woman, except maybe a ex-husband who you know is a good guy, after all they would have a past and know each other for some years.
Althought I don't think a female friend should automatically be trusted, but of course woman tend to be way more reliable, so I think that as long as you know she's a good friend of the drunk or unconscious woman and they know each other for some time then you can trust her, same with ex-girlfriend.
Do guys even have this kind of problem? I mean, do you even need to worry about a drunk or unconscious guy if you leave him with a friend that you know it's not a jerk? I know this is a pretty obvious double standard, but is it just me or this is one of the few double standards that is not bad?
I agree with this. And as for the highlighted part... Sadly, that's the common trend. Achaa..
Double standards. Yes.
I think I didn't make it clear with how I worded things. I was trying to imagine a scenario of what if they were left alone or given more space when comparing the whole what is appropriate or inappropriate thing. Also I think you misunderstood me, If there's anything I like about this story is how Sungpyo and Norae's relationship is still decent despite their past. Like, it takes a lot for two people to be friends after being romantic. Both Norae and Sungpyo were said to be pretty similar in a lot of ways and I think that mature trait they have is actually endearing.
So I do think he's a nice guy and I do want things to get resolved in a nice and tidy way. But yeah, I still think he forgot that he was an Ex and can't cross a few lines despite still caring for Norae...that is, when he wanted to stay longer to make sure she's okay. Seola is a friend and was already there to take care of her so he could've left after he was no longer needed. So it was inappropriate in that way for him to stay any longer or do anything more. Damn. Really, it hurts for anyone to be in such a situation. So I pity the guy a lot.
Yes. Thank you for explaining. I did have indeed misunderstood you and I sound offensive. I apologize.
Anyway, I agree. Sung-pyo is a nice guy. He just had depression. And I could imagine the atmosphere you were trying to create. In all honesty, I don't think that Sung-pyo would even try anything to disrespect No-rae because the way he looks at her and the way she cares for her all shows that rather shouts that. Like, he loves her so much that he respects her just as much.
And I hope, Ssamba will keep his image like that (which is being a good guy). If ever No-rae would choose Seol-a, I hope her reason was because she loves Seol-a and not because Sung-pyo is a hateful person.
Not only the ex bf and seola but that dude ji-hwan or somthing forgot his name is also crazy about her ..Omg norea is really lucky to have 3 persons in love with her in the same time . i mean ..norea must have killer charms or something even though she is not so girly type rather tomboyish
There is something really bothering why ssamba is so damn concerned about the side characters that comes and goes with absolutely nothing related to the main norae and seola relationship progress like that women in-ha the boss or norea family and the ex if she planing on ending the manhwa with them possibly dating in the future ..we want to know the reaction of those characters as well like what will norea family reaction would be ?! And the bf she is building too much story plot she can't handle dealing with in time with only less than 30 chapters left .
Also i want to see nores meeting seola family and her older brothers kkk i mean seola older brother is so cute ..why its alway norea family !?
Layla, I'll react to these based on my feels. Lol
Well, it's because No-rae's initial charm is being cutey-cute-cute, innocent, and initially the sweet harmless (pushover) type and that's basically a good start for people to like her. She's like the honest person type yet totally tactful and careful. But the more you know her, she shows you how she could be a strong person too yet can still be disturbed emotionally too as shown to her reaction to Seol-a's almost getting owned by Gyeong-woo (the boy that calls her 'noona' in the earlier chapters) and the effect of the break-up with Sung-Pyo. It makes you want to hug her and say, "hey, i'll protect you." and other endearing blah. Once you accepted that side of her, it's impossible to just leave her alone thus, it makes her a type that you would totally fall for whether she's totally your type or not.
As for the side characters. I think they are important. Because of them, you get to stir up more reactions from the two heroines. Like, they contribute to the factors that will either build the two together to tear them apart. They are mainly for character development purposes. They will surely affect the two's past, present, and possibly future. Like, for example, past characters that could affect No-rae's and Seol-a's relationship would be Yu-ji and Sung- pyo in a sense that the mentioned characters are the closest that each other had before meeting each other. Present (or rather recent) characters that affects them both, like Gyeong-woo and Ji-hwan who both tried their best to get the girl's attention but failed at some point. Other present characters would be Seol-a and No-rae's confidants. Hye-gyeong and Hee-jin for No-rae while Min-jeong for Seol-a. As we all saw, Seol-a goes to confide with Min-jeong for advice. While No-rae doesn't usually go to Hye-gyeong and Hee-jin for advices, the two just do their part to look after No-rae in their own way including, giving Seol-a tips on handling (taking care) of No-rae. Stuff like these... As for their family... They are possibly the 'Future' of the two so the need to focus on both families is indeed high if you would look at it realistically but as for now. I'll let Ssamba surprise me. Lol.
Oh and as for No-rae's family...I think you mean, her brother. Yeah. Because her brother play an important role for No-rae. He's the one whom No-rae runs to when she needs some advices and some brotherly loving.
Really nice and to-the-point observations! Although I don't think Sungpyo is just trying to be friends with Norae. He wouldn't have wanted Seola out then. He really wanted to stay the night with Norae alone. And he was really disappointed for being unable to stay. I think he really wants to build the relationship with Norae again. But now he's too late kekeke.
takachi
Well, I would agree with you on that. Oh and yes, yes. Definitely. It's not that he wanted to take advantage of a passed out No-rae but he wanted to be with her when she open her eyes again. He just wanted to be the one to take care of No-rae after all, she is the love of his life, next to the RIP Soccer. No offense to Seol-a of course. I mean, he doesn't know anything between the two's relationship so he isn't trying to push Seol-a away, rather, I believe, he mentioned the nails because he cares for No-rae and he wants a reason to stay. If Seol-a can't do the removing of jacket and taking care of No-rae, Sung-pyo thinks, he could do it instead. He have done it before after all and he could do it again. It's just that, Seol-a took it the wrong way and chase out the boy. Lol.
are you sure you chose the right avatar? or maybe your trolling is so next-level i can't detect it haha. anyways, good thoughts all around. regarding superstitions, you read ssamba's author note for this chapter right?
cipp
Are you sure you're asking that in this thread? I thought this thread is a discussion about FF and not about my avatar. Lol. Joking. Joking. I only have posted 3 replies at this thread so far so...maybe I am not trolling now. But who knows what the future will bring? :)
I did read it in the end but I initially thought of superstitious beliefs at first 'cause wth, it's in the culture. Well, in my culture too. Lol. A bit surprised, at the note though. Kakko Warai.
No, I agree. It's universally inappropriate to be left behind with a male, especially your ex-boyfriend while you're drunk. Although, Asian cultures are a lot stricter about contact between girl and boys or men & women than in Western cultures...However in this situation, it was still pretty clear that it was inappropriate. Ex-boyfriend taking care of a drunken old flame in an apartment all alone? yeah...things can turn out really bad in such a scenario. I think it's a friend's job(not even taking any romantic feelings into consideration) to be able save them both the trouble.
I think, even if Seola didn't have romantic feelings for Norae that(as a friend) she still has some right to kick Sungpyo out even if he didn't have any bad intentions. Sungpyo was crossing a little out of the line there by implying that he wanted so stay a little longer with Norae when he was no longer needed. He doesn't have a right anymore as an ex to really take care of her in such an intimate way but because he still cares about Norae so he can't help it.
I actually do think Sungpyo is a nice guy and pity the guy. But I felt like it was inevitable for Seola and Sungpyo to get into some sort of confrontation considering how both feel about Norae. Hence, the way Seola blew up on him was probably more than she would have if Norae was just a platonic friend.
sayuri12
But...Seol-a was still there. Yes? Definitely not alone. He didn't even tried to make Seol-a leave. He just mentioned the nails that might injure No-rae. Not necessarily mean that he wants Seol-a out.
And yes, he still cares about No-rae so it can't be helped. Also, No-rae isn't even trying to avoid him on their earlier meetings, in fact, she's talking normally with him. Ex or not, they still have connection so it is understandable that he wants to take care of No-rae still.
That too.
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Wow...this chapter is intense. Well, in a sense that, Seol-a's and Sung-pyo's feelings for No-rae are over lapping each other. I'll be discussing both sides in my humblest opinion and the most, nicest way I could. Lol
Sung-pyo's side first. Well, he carried No-rae like he used to. He compliments (or rather felt nostalgic) at how No-rae's house looks the same after those years and even after moving. Instantly, I bet he totally remembers his feelings for No-rae because they broke up because of his depression and not because of third parties and stuff so I therefore conclude, he isn't a douchebag or a bad person. He's just so sad that time considering that soccer was taken away from him due to some sort of injury and it's a hard time for him. Like, sudden change of lifestyle thingy where he was at the top of his career and then, one day, everything about his hobby was taken away. And now that he has (if ever he has) recovered from all of it and living a normal life again, if I were him, and I see an opening like this that No-rae is talking to me normally and smiling and all that, maybe, just maybe, we have a chance of mending our relationship? Because heck, well, it's not entirely over because No-rae is still No-rae and he still has feelings for No-rae (because normally, with break-ups like those, you still love the person, it's just, you want to fix yourself first that's why you let them go for a bit and blah) and he wants to make up for those years that they lost. He was a coward once but if he sees a chance like this, he would totally grab it. Unless, he's just trying to be friends with No-rae and just wants a closure with the girl. That's a possibility too.
As for Seol-a...cutting nails. Hooo boy. First thing that came into my mind was surperstitious beliefs. And I think many Asian cultures believe in these. Lol. Dunno about western cultures though. Anyway...as I was saying, in Korea, it's a bad thing to cut nails at night because it's considered a bad omen or something? I am not really sure. In Japan, it's considered bad because they say if you cut your nails, it's like cutting your parent's head and trying to kill them, like some sort of curse. From here in my place, in the parts of the south east, it's the same, cutting nails is a no-no because it's some sort of bad luck. I think Seol-a is breaking taboos just because she cares deeply for No-rae. And that is so cute. Like, that's one huge sacrifice for her. Not only because of breaking taboos but also because she's a girly girl. Like, the ones who took pride in their looks. I mean, c'mon. Growing nails, having manicures, painting nails, and the like just to look pretty and smexy. And I know, girls (who are into beauty and stuff) will cry with a broken nail. Lol. So then..you all cut it all of the sudden just to prove you can take care of someone is really...well, that's a huge plus. Lol. And doing it just so you won't hurt the one you love is so cute of Seol-a. Ahhh. Love makes people do crazy stuff and it's so cute.
Anyway... Both parties are just so overflowing of care for our dear No-rae. Ahh. Our No-rae is one lucky girl. And about Seol-a being cold to Sung-pyo is just that...Seol-a might be a bit jealous? A bit paranoid? A bit intimidated? And other bits. Lol. I mean, look, Sung-pyo is the EX. He's a nice guy in general. He has good looks and is tall. He is gentle and cares for No-rae. And he even mentioned about not hurting No-rae cuz of long nails. He is that protective of her. Seol-a wants to prove that she can surpass the dude even though she's a girl thus, she even go and cut her nails without thinking (cuz I probably bet she'll be crying over it later though. Lol) and she even wants to carry No-rae on her own and wants to prove it even though it came out as a joke to No-rae in the end. Lol. Also, I don't think Seol-a is trying to be rude or wants to throw out Sung-pyo so badly out of No-rae's place. She's just trying to prove she could take care of No-rae on her own. And that is super cute too. Lol
Long post is long. Kakko warai.
Also Hye-gyeong didn't get No-rae purposely drunk and Sung-pyo didn't try to talk to any of 'em during the party.
Well, i did say "it's as if she predicted the outcome" not purposely active on wasting No-rae. Hehehe.
It's ambiguous, but I don't think Hye-gyeong was texting Sung-pyo, I'm fairly certain she was texting Seol-a. The texts are shown before Sung-pyo arrived (so before he could've seen No-rae drinking a lot). Plus the line "But she usually stops drinking at her limit. Everything will probably be fine~" is mirrored later when Seol-a thinks "...Is she really the type to stop drinking at her limit?"
As for whether Hye-gyeong is playing matchmaker, it's certainly possible, since she's said before that she thought No-rae and Sung-pyo went really well together. It might have been a factor in her asking Sung-pyo to take No-rae home. But I don't think she invited Sung-pyo to the party (since the original plan was to leave quickly, though No-rae threw a wrench in that), and her orchestrating the drink swap is definitely out of the question because that would be an absolutely shitty thing to do.
Edit: looks like xphrnzrjh beat me to it, pretty much what they said
Texting Seol-a? Okay. As for the rest...like I said, it's as if Hye-gyeong predicted it since No-rae is drinking a lot. Ehe. :3
Thanks for the warm welcome? Lol. This is a fun thread. Kakko warai.