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You know, Yuzu's parents' reaction and Harumi's reaction makes way more sense than any drama Mei and her grandpa has.
Some people would just accept like that. Even more people with no religious beliefs and open mind like all the three always were.
I hope its not one of these 5 minute long episode series.
It probably is.
It's Doga Kobo. Probably it's a full series.
So what? They don't have enough material for 12-13 episodes, 24 min each. This manga has 3 Volumes so far. It's not the same as New Game where you get two times more material for one volume than this.
Just my speculation.
Almost 4 volumes, actually. I'm sure the volume 4 and maybe close to volume 5 will be out when the anime starts airing. This series has two chapter by month.
Also, Doga Kobo usually adds a lot of original material in their series. It has more than enough for a full series. Fact is Doga Kobo never did short before, not sure why they would make one now. If that was their intention, they would get another studio.
I hope its not one of these 5 minute long episode series.
It probably is.
It's Doga Kobo. Probably it's a full series.
ooh that makes a lot of sense why many good manga don't get to be an anime, ok a stupid follow-up question: how can a manga get into those magazines ? do they just add it if they liked it ?
It'll depend on the magazine. Yuri Hime sometimes sees a successful author on pixiv or twitter and officially publish their stories. Most common is the author send their storyboards to the magazine to see if they can be published, kinda like it works with books. Sometimes the magazine will make contests with one-shots and produce one series for the author who was the winner. That happened with YagaKimi and Murcielago (although YagaKimi original story was het). Yuri Hime has a lot of one-shot every edition. Some authors for those one-shots sometimes get to make a series, so I'm sure it's related. Also, some publishers go to comiket and such to find artists with potential.
In the end, again, it's not that different than when book authors are looking for publishers around here. Some publishers even make popular fanfics into books.
and i'm kinda confused, are those people behind the magazine the producers themselves or do they push other anime producers to pick a project from their magazine ?
They're the producers themselves, but not alone. They get the idea and try to make a committee to invest money. The producers in that committee are promised that the series has potential to make money in some way, be it streaming rights, CD sales, toy sales, etc. The story having the potential to sell and the publisher being big enough probably help to add trust in the title's success. Usually, the most interested party and the one giving the idea to animate the title is the publisher itself, but not always. When you see an old finished story getting one anime, more likely it was not the publisher's idea.
Keep in mind that those producers might not even watch anime or read manga, so it could be easy to sell a flop to them and it could be hard to sell a clearly good idea. Also, niche markets are hard to be convincing.
Sometimes the studio itself is part of the committee, though.
By the way, Yuri Hime's publisher, Ichijinsha, was a very small publisher until they were bought in 2016 by Kodansha, a big name in the industry. That's probably why we see more Yuri Hime titles being animated now.
Because it's not the studio that chose most of the time.
don't the producers know that spending money on the titles i mentioned is better than spending it on this one ? or do they actually somehow profit more from this one ?
You should compare with other Yuri Hime titles instead.
What do you mean ?
Yuri Hime has been adapting a lot of their titles lately, so most likely this is another case. They do it to make more people buy their magazine, so it's better not focus just on the same kind of public that they probably already got attention.
Since they already adapted one romance title with Citrus, it makes sense to adapt something else now, to get a different public. I buy Yuri Hime all months and I can say this is probably their best comedy series, so I think it's a good choice.
Their other titles that could get an anime would be Watashi no Yuri Wa Oshigoto (I like it and would rather have it as an anime, but it's still drama, so it could overlap with Citrus fans), TodoIto (please, no) and Biyori (If I had to guess, this is most likely their next title to be adapted).
I don't know what is it with anime producers picking the weirdest yuri possible, i mean why animating this instead of other good manga like Swap Swap, a Kiss and a White Lily, Bright and Cherry Amnesia, and Kase-san ? even though those manga sell well. I really don't know how do those producers think at all.
Because it's not the studio that chose most of the time.
You should compare with other Yuri Hime titles instead.
I mean, I won't say it's not lolicon, but I read until the last chapter, and her only interest is in Hana, so I would hardly call her a pedophile. I'm sure she wouldn't mind Hana being older.
Also, so far she hasn't tried anything sexual. The comedy actually really works well, and others elements are added later.
Like another college student in love with the MC and stalking her.
Even more OneeLoli yuri coming!
Reminds me of Ichigo Mashimaro, Only the onee-san is more pervy, older[HS vs college] and the yuri is more obvious.
She's not that pervy, actually. I read the manga and it's pretty safe.
She mostly want to make the girl cosplay with cute clothes and hold her hand.
Also, it's comedy, so shouldn't expect romance.
What spoiler about GGO ?
Later in the novel when Karen Mets Pito IRL, Pito reveals that she's bi and kisses Karen. Then starts to invite her to her home.
About the het, Pito has casual sex with the guy, but the anime cut it, probably because it would be hard to do without revealing her indentify. She doesn't love him and it's more interested in Karen, but Karen don't reciprocate.
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Wtw The spoilers you told me about SAO came true but well, not exactly hahaha there's a bisexual girl now, she gets kissed but the're inside the game so yeah I know, is not the same part you were talking about but that's a big coincidence.
I really like Fuka! I bet she was jealous.
Wotaku Ni koi wa musukashi is also hilarious... het but hilarious!
I knew about that character, but not about her being bi.
I need to catch up with it. I'm two episodes behind.
Wow, have been seeing this on twitter a lot, but never caught my attention. But it's really great.
It's also nice how the author doesn't downplay the problems with their relationship. Also, the reversal with expectation with the last scene in chapter 2 was perfect.
A shame the Japanese reader is kind of a mess to follow because it doesn't seem like they separate by chapters.
https://twitter.com/rillnoah7/status/996359302548865024
Hanebado does look slightly relevant, at least. But it'll probably be like a joke every time.
Well, Harukana's author actually makes yuri doujin, too: https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=875549
Hanebado doesn't have a male protagonist, just a trainer. Same way Ongaku Shoujo has a male producer. Not sure if it'll have yuri, but the manga is being promoted together with Harukana for some reason.
I would like Ongaku Shoujo like the OVA, with just two girls, because the OVA was actually fun. Not sure if it'll be any relevant as yet another idol anime.
Things I'm keeping an eye on that aren't yuri (at least doesn't look as such) is Tsukumogami Kashimasu and maybe Aguu. Looks interesting, despite being Deen.
I dislike Biscuit Hammer, so I'll be skipping Planet With unless something in it calls my attention later.
Well, maybe the thread will be locked, but I'll leave this here. If something doesn't exist, it's more likely because no one thought of it. Writers are always falling into cliches because it's what they're used to, no other reason. Usually, it takes someone brings a successful work like that for more being made.
Although in this case, in particular, I don't think people would realize the element in particular.
I actually used steam even before monetary conversation (dollar wasn't much of a problem that time) and greenlight, but I never used it as a place to find games, because in the end, it's just a store. I'm sure some people did, but looking at the front page, all I see is a bunch is mainstream games I didn't care. Later people complained about only big games getting exposure, so they started promoting indie games. Then people started to complain about how every shitty game would show on front page, so steam started to show the best selling games, what made the original problem shows back. They can't win, not matter what they do. Point is, there's definitely people who uses the store to find game, but I consider that a bad habit. Do you ever go to a book store not knowing what you want to buy? If you do, you're making an injustice already, as book stores are paid to put some books in evidence. That's how it works on most physical and digital stores, the ones with more money get more exposure. If you want something that appeal to you, and your tastes are more niche oriented, you'll find that product by yourself.
From the dev's point of view, I'll just say that marketing should be considered while raising the budget for your game. You should never just make your product, throw it in the store and hope people will find it. Most digital store won't promote your product for you, that goes from Amazon Publisher to Play Store. Those are just that, stores, and the main marketing should always be made by the seller. The products that are promoted are usually a service that costs money.
While this is partly Steam's fault, and maybe lazyness (and also Amazon, play store, app store, etc), I also say it's the customer's laziness. As a customer, we should know what we want and be sure of it. Some stores won't let me have my money back if I bought something wrong because I wasn't paying attention. That's why I'm against Steam's refund policy. Refund without any reason is hurtful for devs and actually makes the customer more lazy. I can just click buy, if the game is shitty, I'll just refund it. There's not excuses. We have videos with gameplay, reviews, we can see what the games are before even buying it. If the videos in the store are different from the product, then sure, we have a reason and refund should be given. Otherwise it's our own fault. PSN will ban you if you chargeback, and Steam could do the same.
I think Steam's biggest mistake might have been actually making those quality control when they were smaller and it was easier instead of just focusing on being a store.
I won't say it's wrong to have a rigid control on what is allowed in your store, as PSN and eShop do, but I don't believe that's necessary.
I do agree that's kinda bad for then that they probably get more money for some games submission than the actual sales. But the only way they could reverse it is making submission cheaper, like it happens with play store, what just would make things worse.
Anyway, I posted about a lot of things and I'm in my cellphone now, but I guess I just meant a store doesn't have any responsibilities in giving free exposure to third parties products, that devs should and do promote their games outside of steam and that customers should held responsibilities by their choices, too.
New Harukana Receive Trailer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjzgxkIuiok
Lovin' those last 10 seconds
MC and her partner are cousins and there's a pair of twins.
They should compete to find out which incest couple is best.
When I said they don't endorse it, I did meant it ideologically, not as a product. Like, take AIDS Simulator as an example. The very presentation of the game says it's a shitty racist game, so if you bought it, it means you want a shitty racist game, and that's what you get. But I agree that saying "any game will be accepted" means that devs can outright lie what their games are about and you end up with something you didn't want. Although that's why steam has their refund policy (that I don't agree with, but that's another point).
I never saw steam as synonymous of quality, to tell the truth. Steam is just a place where games are cheap because of monetary conversation, since paying in dollar isn't usually a good idea for me. Their front store is completely useless to me, so it's only a place I go to buy a game I saw elsewhere. As you said GoG can reject even devs who actually put a lot of work in their games, so if steam start to do the same, those devs won't have any place to go, since selling by themselves they'll usually lose a lot of market. International market, for example. So while steam quality control is garbage, I think it does some good. And they still have the biggest public, so clearly there's demand for that. And seriously, most of the time trash games are very easy to identify, so if someone buys it, they only have themselves to blame.
Anyway, I don't even like Steam. I don't remember the last time I used them (I think it was to buy Fatal Twelve, and I still didn't play it. It wouldn't be possible to me to get it anywhere else). I just think they're convenient, and quality control was never their strong point.
Also, do pharmacies really used to sell cigarettes in USA? That's weird.
Amazon stopped selling LO
What is LO?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_LO
Lolicon manga.
Also, Steam did talk about adjusting for each region law. They can ban things based on region alone. As far as I know, Russia doesn't ban homossexual content if it's digital (yet), and China...it's complicated. But Citrus was fine in BilliBilli. There are definitely places that ban that kind of content, though, unfortunately.
Actually, they talked about how their staff weren't sure about what was allowed or not, so that's why they went with "just allow everything". Most visual novels that were being removed couldn't be considered trolling by any definition. This AIDS Simulator is an example of clearly troll, starting by their description.
I do think they should have better quality control overall, but that might be impossible considering their growth now, unless they start refusing all new submitions for some time. And even then, their staff could just decide things they don't like aren't good enough. There's a lot of people in west who consider anime style trash, for example. Also, remind that most os these VN wouldn't be allowed on a more restrict store, like PSN or eShop.
(and to begin with, the girls are underage in the original).
What do you mean in original? Did steam/english version changed their age?
I'm not sure which, but I remember that they either changed their age or remove it in promotional material. Their age isn't mentioned at all in game.
More shitty broken games about killing people for being gay coming right up. Filtering bad games is too much of a chore for a self described big company that selling games is their sole source of income. At least this means some oneloli lewd vns in broken English get sold.
You will no doubt be thrilled to know that AIDS Simulator will soon be available on Steam. Here's the description:
"Welcome to Africa, you've got HIV! Now you're mad and want to kill all Africans that gave you aids to get revenge. AIDS Simulator is a very short first-person shooter with boring gameplay, bad graphics and generic assets."
So hooray for the "we don't judge, if you don't like something just don't download it" approach?
Oh well, forget my last point then.
I can see something like this causing such damage that'll make them reconsider again, actually. Even more since Jim Sterling called out on it.
But then again, that would be the only game banned and I'm sure a lot of offensive games would still pass under the radar.
To be fair, it's better that they stay irrelevant.
Edit: https://steamcommunity.com/app/875280/discussions/0/1696049513765678970/
By the way, giving how the dev is acting, this should be considered a troll game.
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You endorse something by selling it, if I buy beans at Walmart and when I open the tin it’s actually human fingers I get a refund from Walmart and they stop stocking those beans.
I'm sorry, but I disagree. You'll get a refund because you wanted to buy beans, not human fingers. The Walmart won't stock those beans anymore because there isn't a demand for human fingers (and it's criminal). If human fingers become popular and decriminalized, you can be sure Walmart will stock it.
You don't see supermarket stop selling cigarettes because it can kill you, or alcohol. A lot of owners probably hate cigarettes and alcohol, but they'll still stock it. When we used to rent movies, it wasn't rare to ask the proprietary about their opinion about a movie you were curious, and some of them would even say "it's garbage".
You not always endorse what you sell. Sometimes it's just business.
Now, it would be nice if steam would filter their content more, but what is or not allowed would be decided by biased people in ways steam can't control. They have a lot of games in their store, and if someone report Kindred Spirits saying it's a pedophiliac game, maybe the people reviewing it will agree with the report (and to begin with, the girls are underage in the original). Or, more likely, no one will take 60 hours of their time to play a game they have no interest just to confirm that report. So if a lot of people report for the same reason, they'll just assume it's true, and that's how this mess was born.
I'm not sure if a game where the objective is kill minorities would pass, but most of the time, those games don't even exist, because it's bad business. They're usually sold with another premisse and that content is just a subtext inside. Even Hatred was just another game of killing people if you didn't research the devs history. When the game is exactly that, I'm not sure if it wouldn't be considered trolling.
More shitty broken games about killing people for being gay coming right up. Filtering bad games is too much of a chore for a self described big company that selling games is their sole source of income. At least this means some oneloli lewd vns in broken English get sold.
Aren't those illegal, though. Where I live, they technically are, at least, although it's rarely enforced. But they can ban it with that argument. On the other side, SonoHana also could be considered illegal for featuring pornographic content with underaged girls.
Regardless, I think those games will always exist and I don't know if steam banning them would help much. What they need is make sure those games won't be recommend for kids, and a filtering for mature games technically should help with that (not the "what is your age" bullshit, though). The problem is in banning some games with shallow motives and allow other worse things to be in the store.
You could argue that GTA is homophobic and mysoginist, for example, but they would never ban it.
If they decide "we won't ban anything at all", at least they stop being hypocrites. What they're saying is that they won't endorse or condemn any game in the store, since they're just a store.
From their point of view, I would probably do the same, to be honest.
If the mother did not take care of them, who did? The father?
I fail to see the problem?
There are differences between people.
You don't say.
-- when saying that children need constant care and affection,
When they're like one year old, sure. But after they stop being totally helpless little larva kindergartens exist for a reason.
and that the mother is necessary.
Pretty sure there's no shortage of single fathers in the world who'd dispute that. Or psychologists for that matter, since parenting does not automagically equal mother (or vise versa).
Also grandparents, brothers or sisters, etc.
Hell, if biological mother was that necessary, adoption wouldn't exist. Once the kid lost the mother, their life was over.
Care and attention for children is important, and that can be give in several different ways.
Controlling Asian mother shows up.
Ex-girlfriend shows up.
Drama incoming.
Also, the whole "once she gets a kid, she'll be a useless burden and quit" thing is not exclusive to Japan.
Even Germany is still like that: a woman is expected to take care of her child at home or she's branded "a bad mother". No need to even ask the father to "sacrifice" his career instead.
In France, mothers have a paid 3 months maternity leave and a guarantee, by law, to have their job back. But hey, socialized healthcare. Damn commies.
What is with all you people saying stuff like "Omg! expected to take care of her child at home! Bullshit!!". Do you guys even know of developmental psychology? Of Erik H. Erikson, Margaret Mahler, Daniel Stern and so on? The motherly contact and constant care is NEEDED, otherwise the child will have psychological and neurotic problems- Why do people keep giving their opinion without knowing anything. The child needs the mother. Since the mother can not bring her child to work 24/7, she has to stay at home until the child is old enough, which is about 18 months. Why is everything female oppression to people like you... Understand that sometimes there is a reason behind things like these. If you are not willing to sacrifice, then don't have a fucking child. Jeez
If you work 24/7, you should really quit your job, regardless of your gender.
Whatever you say about psychology, fact is that all kids I know who were born in families where the mother worked ended up growing just fine as healthy and happy people. The mother also doesn't need to be 24/7 talking to the child, either. And most of the time when there's negligence, it has nothing to do with work.
This is way better than NTR. I respect Kodama a little more for now.
Btw, as far as I know, next chapter is the last. Or at least it's a short series. So the drama won't go far.