I would honestly read an entire independent manga just about Subaru.

Ok, so this prob have been ask before but does Kotooka like Tsukasa but repressing her feelings, bc im getting mixed signals or whtever kinda confused here (￣.￣;)

Yup. She stays behind afterschool to watch her, and Tsukasa compliments her happily about her cooking.

Kotooka learned to make cream puffs to make Tsukasa happy.

To be fair, at this point I'm pretty sure this story is pentagonistic and it just took a bit to introduce all the characters. Because the author seems obviously careful about weaving how they interact together and seems to be setting up further grounds with which to toss them at each other. If all of that holds true, then that means the only character left for development is actually Asakura out of everyone.

I don't know. Maybe that one of the reason why i hate these kind of stories where several couples were developed along side each other. Because you feel the story being kept chopped into these almost-one-shot chapters. Add in plentiful of angst, and it leave me very frustrated. At not only have to wait for next chapter, but also hope the next chapter is about the character that story left in hang

We have so far different chapter about:
- Tsukasa's narrative on Washio.
- Tsukasa's narrative on Kyousuke
- Washio's narrative on Kotooka
- Kotooka's narrative on Tuskasa
- Kotooka's narrative on Washio
- Subaru's narrative on Tsukasa
- Subaru's narrative on Kyousuke

No wonder 16 chapters in and we barely scratch the surface of anything

It certainly does seem to be a slow boiling manga, which isn't really a bad thing from my point of view. For stories like this I think a more patient outlook would be warranted. Sixteen chapters isn't a whole lot by any metric outside of shorts and this author is definitely building for a longer run rather than a shorter one. Obviously it isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it's not terrible that it isn't.

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VOTING :
Who's your fav chara in this manga:
2. Kotooka

Which pair you like the best :
4. Subaru x Kyosuke

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I'm probably the only one being annoyed with how they spent 4 out of last 8 chapters talking about Asakura and Tsubaru background and relationship?

I means... I don't have as much complaint about their story itself, but the way in which it sidetracked the progress of the main triangle, annoyed the heck out of me.

I means If Subaru issue actually push the triangle to progress, at least I can be ok with it. Instead, this looks like the author was just drawing two different manga in one.

3 if you count in the flower bed couple who will come back no occupy a whole chapter (at least) in the future

To be fair, at this point I'm pretty sure this story is pentagonistic and it just took a bit to introduce all the characters. Because the author seems obviously careful about weaving how they interact together and seems to be setting up further grounds with which to toss them at each other. If all of that holds true, then that means the only character left for development is actually Asakura out of everyone.

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I wonder if, in a years time, I will look back upon nanashi no asterism as my gateway yaoi.

Subaru is an amazing character.

Oh my god that chicken profile.

I'm less interested in the actual love between the girls and more interested in how Kotooka's mindset will change to reflect the resolution regardless of outcome. Similar to Kotooka, I want to see how Subaru deals with his attachment to his sister if at all. Also Subaru x Asakura, because they are tremendously adorable.

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I think my expectations were a bit high... I thought Washio's side would a bit deeper or convoluted than this. Instead it seems unfairly vanilla for the last perspective reveal.

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The author is clearly showing how stupid and unnecesary it is to worry so much about what other people think since opening up with those close to you clears tons of fucking confusion.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with how justified Kotooka is in taking her stance. Just because the author is criticizing a problem doesn't mean it stops existing.

The only character who's actually doing shitty stuff for the sake of society and not her friends sake.

Usually doing what's best for her friends is fitting them into society's grain. Agree to disagree, because I feel we're just going to talk over each other on this point.

Yeah, because kids need to be mature and highly responsible at that age. Fuck enjoying life and doing what they like, society wants them to drain their lives from that nonsense.

Literally everyone else around them deals with it to a lesser or larger degree. You can argue that that's stupid, but Kotooka is still doing what she thinks is best for her friends and not because she's secretly this selfish narcissist who doesn't take anyone else's feelings into consideration.

I see where she's coming from too, that doesn't mean she's doing the right thing or the best thing for her friends either. It just means that she's been burned before and doesn't want to get burned again.

It's either you or me that's completely misreading her character. Because when you say "I see where she's coming from" then a sentence comes out that I disagree with on every word, then there's probably a problem somewhere. We have been watching her monologue just how well she's aware of her friends feelings for literally chapters. Needing to fit into normality instead of standing out is virtue; how much that applies in this particular case is up to opinions. But, again, sure just ignore the context. You disagree with how she handles the situation = she only gives a crap about not getting hurt again personally.

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She is not thinking about what her friends might feel about the whole situation

This and

she's thinking what society would think of her and her friends.

are not mutually exclusive to the betterment of her friend's lives.

You shouldn't worry what others think about you, especially if you're not hurting others or yourself and you're happy.

You clearly haven't grown up in confucian society and/or culture. What other people think of you matters. Alot. It is absolutely irrelevant if they're hurting anyone else. And the regards of general society to the characters in this manga also matter alot.

Which is why Asakura hides his sentai-show hobby.

Why Tsukasa is ashamed of her brother.

Why nobody talks about their personal issues with their immediate friends. But instead try to maneuver around each other.

And also why Kotooka is trying to get her friends to go straight.

Arguing that "other people's opinions don't matter" while the actions and motivations of the entire cast are guided by cultural customs and dictates of social normality is asinine. Blithely letting your friends "do whatever their emotions tell them to want" is not only irresponsible and immature, but also hilariously stupid in this context.

Kotooka is one hundred and ten percent mismanaging the situation, but I absolutely see where she's coming from. If she were trying this with a dash more delicacy and a shitton more competence, I would be rooting for her.

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She is not thinking about whats best for her friends at all, she is thinking about whats best for her.

Wait, in which universe is she prioritizing herself over her friends? She's hollowing herself out emotionally to try to nudge them into what's considered socially normal; which is super important in any Confucian society. There's a difference between what you can have and what society considers acceptable for you to have, Kotooka is apparently the only one to consider this in her group. This honestly makes her more mature than her peers, at least until we get a POV from Washio.

Would she still act the same way if Tsukasa was interested in her?

To be honest, probably.

For me her intention's about as good as it gets, minus the bit of bitterness on the side and who can blame her. The only thing that can possibly be criticized is how sloppily she's handling it and I give it a pass. Mainly because she's a teenager dealing with garbage people twice her age still don't have a handle on.

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I don't mind this kind of development. It's not as if Kotooka is actually wrong about the situation; she's just hilariously untalented at fixing it (if it even has a fix to begin with).

I'm just rooting for Asakura, the pure-hearted little cinnamon roll. Also Subaru who is infinitely more interesting than his sister.

I'll be honest, the trio is kind of losing me because of how tepid their characters have been in the last few chapters. Yaoi ftw.

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I keep forgetting how small they actually are. Then I saw the enormous guinea pig and head-sized leaves of basil.

blopa posted:

I wonder where that "running water" weakness came from... I only see it in Japanese media, while western depiction only mention holy water at most.

I'm pretty sure there was western stuff that mentioned not being able to cross rivers as well. Don't remember where right now though, but I did hear about this weakness from western sources. Actually I think it is the first time I heard it mentioned in japanese tale of vampires.

Running water is from the west originally, folk tales would have them unable to cross running water because, like holy water, it was considered pure where the vampire itself was corrupt. Still, stagnant water, like swamps and stuff, often smelled bad, or "evil", so wouldn't have any effect. But you washed things in rivers, water below rapids was generally considered safer to drink, and so forth, therefore it was pure and in this case "good".

Really? I heard stories about jiangshi being unable to cross running water (specifically rivers) due to them being dragon veins, therefore holding the energies anathema to the jiangshi. And jiangshi mythology have been floating around for a long, long while.

Iirc, there are some formulation of vampires or lifeforce eating demons from just about every culture you can think of.

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Wait, now that i think back on it. Did she also eat all the other guys?

YES. YES YES YES. Anime and an english manga release! Now if I could get some of the same for 'Anko-san of the Deep-Sea Fish' or 'Hakumei to Michiko' I'd be in heaven.

I'd love to see an animated series of it, but I feel like there are very few studios that would be able to do Hakumei and Mikochi justice.

Hakumei to Michiko honestly sounds like it would be straight up Studio Ghibli's alley.

That's kind of weird. Insects are shown to be sentient but fish aren't.

Not that much weirder than the reverse to be honest. Lots and lots of insects are sentient, and so are most fish. There are tons of fish far closer to the status of what we call sapience than some mammals, but our culture also kind of arbitrarily labels them all as lower on the sapience totem pole because "they" just look and think so obviously different than us.

Now i'm curious. What kind of fish Are so close to sapience?

Off the top of my head I know entire families of fish that are socially intelligent enough to engage in deceit and individuals show preferences, subordination and social behavior in single and grouped fishes, which ticks basically all but the most ludicrous criteria set by any reasonable philosopher of mind.

Edit: Here's a koi playing fetch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGxOK-bS4NM

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That's kind of weird. Insects are shown to be sentient but fish aren't.

Not that much weirder than the reverse to be honest. Lots and lots of insects are sentient, and so are most fish. There are tons of fish far closer to the status of what we call sapience than some mammals, but our culture also kind of arbitrarily labels them all as lower on the sapience totem pole because "they" just look and think so obviously different than us.

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I really can't see someone actually going through this kind of issue . It seems so unreal and full of overly stimulated anxiety .

It can get much, much worse to be honest. This person at least seems to want to move to happiness.

My stomach hurts reading this.

I'm a little confused at what kind of meat the eat, what kinds of animals are sentient, and Sen's whole 'zombie skeletons' thing.

seconded, most stories with sentient animals dont ever clarify whose meat the carnivores/omnivores are eating tho, so i just kinda take it at face value.

it's such a sweet and adorable story! i love how the relationship between hakumei and mikochi is more nuanced and less "in-your-face" about their closeness.

Every reference to meat I see are either unnamed or fish. And all the meat wares they had in the shopping plaza were all fish and Mikochi at various points had made fish meatballs and anchovy sandwiches, which seem like odd meats to use unless they don't really eat alternatives. So I'm guessing everyone's pescatarian.