I actually understand drpepperfan's argument and honestly, it makes sense. Personally I'd still be for tagging it just in case someone with several incest-related traumas happens to come across it. But personal opinions are... well, personal. I do hope we can someday implement spoiler tags.

And to anyone who are still confusing. This motherducking argument is about 2 sides.

On a related (and totally non-offtopic) note... would motherducking be ducking from a mother, making mothers duck from you, or throwing a duck at a mother? I honestly can't make up my mind.

I'M NOT TRYING TO OFFEND, but so what if people read something that upsets them. Have we got to the point where we have to know everything in a story, before we read it, just in case there might be something that offends our sensibility? If you start a story that triggers you, stop reading it.

I've posted this before, but it seems it's still necessary to say it again, so reposting below (oh, and keep in mind that we do stop reading, but it doesn't matter once you're already going through hell again):

I think you miss the point of tags being used as trigger warnings. Some people in this world have experienced a shitload of trauma in their past. This leaves them lingering with post-traumatic stress disorder, anxiety disorders, panic attacks and some other psychiatric conditions. Acute episodes of such diseases are horrifying (I speak from experience), and they are sometimes triggered by situations which resemble the origin of the trauma.

So if I unknowingly read a story with rape in it, I'm at least 50% likely to have a panic attack. Sometimes it's light enough that'll just end up losing a few hours of sleep. Sometimes they make me wanna die.

The thing about triggers is that they're specific for each person. So for me, rape is almost always a trigger, but so is sex with robots or dolls (because in my case, I felt like someone trapped inside an inanimate object being used by someone else for their pleasure). People who have suffered violence by family members might have incest be a PTSD trigger. And so on.

This might sound like some rare occasional thing, but keep in mind that 1 in 6 american women are rape victims. The number goes up even more when we're talking about LGBT people (1 in 5 lesbians, and 1 in 2 bisexual women, if I'm not mistaken). And rape's just one form of violence, there are several more which can be equally damaging to your mental health.

We use trigger warnings in order not to hurt the people who have already been through too much. I think you'll agree with me that this is a more important cause than preventing spoilers.

Damn. Your taste in yuri is definitely fucked if you liked those two and want more like them.

I liked Cocytus. I don't think there's anything "fucked up" about that. They're just stories, chill.

there seems to be a sequel to this according to MAL

Arckuno mentioned with me that there's a sort of prequel about Minato's grandma when she was young. We might scanlate that sometime in the future (although right now we have two ongoing projects from this author, so it'll take a while before we can work on anything else).

I'm not sure if there's an actual sequel. I'd love if there was one though (count on me for scanlating if there is).

Great work, I can only imagine how much work this must have taken. May I ask what the main font you used was?

I use Chinacat Thin for dialog and Im Wunderland for narration. Then there's like ten other fonts for other types of dialog, main title and sfx, just ask if you wanna know of any specific ones.

last edited at Jul 2, 2018 6:26AM

I personally don't understand the anger over missing tags. Movies and books don't have tags that give every aspect of a plot. I've never seen anyone storming out of a Friday the 13th movie screaming, this didn't have a NSFW tag. Why didn't anybody warn me about the sex scene.

With movies it's easier to know what to expect. Usually you won't find a rape scene in a movie that's not rated 18+, for example, and you can get a gist of the most triggering content by reading the synopsis. Manga doesn't have either, so that's a lot harder to predict.

So happy to see this up. A lot of work went into it, I hope you people like it.

If we just shut up and put our heads in the sand every time the people in power did something we didn't like, then we wouldn't have freedom.

Yep, but the site has owners, and they have the right to do whatever shit they want with it.

There's a bunch of yuri like that. These are just a few I can remember:

• Girl friends (which I'm pretty sure every single soul on this website has already read)
• Salomelic
• Out of the blue
• Secret of the princess
• Shells and AlternaRock
• Fragtime
• Pulse
• Yuunagi Marbled
• Happiness in the shape of a wound

Take your pick. I have more.

I don't think they were saying that the quality of sex doesn't matter in a relationship. But that the quality of sex doesn't matter if other important aspects of a relationship are not working. Whether the relationship is casual or romantic, there should be good dynamics outside of the bedroom as well.

I was just kidding, people, didn't think you'd take me seriously.

Clothing, no matter what is worn, if often a confidence booster. A new dress, suit, shoes and to some even underwear can be a strong motivator. The point is that if you feel good about yourself, then you'll be more motivated and perform better. Such a boost helps in all sorts of situations where often times it is for the person themselves, but sometimes for others. I think the reason for the battle underwear here is to light some fire under their intimacy and bring it to the next level. Simply put, clothes have a lot of power. They can change how we view and feel about ourselves, but also with how people view and treat us. This isn't a Japan thing, but a global behavior.

I... still don't understand very well. I guess I'm too butch for this shit.
Thanks for explaining though.

I think drpepperfan already made clear what's going to be the site's stance on spoiler tags. Not sure if there's any point on continuing with this discussion.

it's the first time i read this, and i think this is absurd enough to deserve the "what the fuck i'm reading" tag

I think works tagged like that are on a higher level of nonsense and bizarre. This one is just a bit odd.

About Sayaka, I agree she won't become an obstacle to Yuu's confession but I also don't agree that she has given up on Touko romantically. The scene where she asks Yuu if she loves Touko & straight up saying "I love her" tells you that her feelings are genuine and it establishes an implicit friendly & supportive rivalry between the two. "I love her and you should be more confident about your feelings for her too" (since Yuu was hesitant to answer). In a way, the scene tells you that she won't be possessive over Touko anymore but that doesn't mean she won't take her chances if given. I don't think she'll just confess out of the blue or confess with ill intent nor will her confession be a source of drama. If anything, I'm imagining her confessing just to help nudge Yuu into making up her mind about doing it & then she gets rejected & turns into a yandere & kills everyone. The end.

I agree with everything, except I don't think Sayaka would confess to help Yuu directly. If anything, Sayaka would confess if she thought she had real chances with Touko. Which might not be impossible once Touko starts finally liking herself (I'm guessing the theatre troupe is her first step in that direction).

Hey, I was assuming it was you. Good to see you being active again while I faded into lurker status.

I'm more active recently because I've been doing cleaning/typesetting for scanlation groups here and there. I should be studying, though, but I have no willpower left for that at the moment. What are you up to lately?

last edited at Jun 30, 2018 8:32PM

If someone throws a fit because they involuntarily read an incest story on a site full of porn, they only have themselves to blame.

I think you miss the point of tags being used as trigger warnings. Some people in this world have experienced a shitload of trauma in their past. This leaves them lingering with post-traumatic stress disorder, anxiety disorders, panic attacks and some other psychiatric conditions. Acute episodes of such diseases are horrifying (I speak from experience), and they are sometimes triggered by situations which resemble the origin of the trauma.

So if I unknowingly read a story with rape in it, I'm at least 50% likely to have a panic attack. Sometimes it's light enough that'll just end up losing a few hours of sleep. Sometimes they make me wanna die.

The thing about triggers is that they're specific for each person. So for me, rape is almost always a trigger, but so is sex with robots or dolls (because in my case, I felt like someone trapped inside an inanimate object being used by someone else for their pleasure). People who have suffered violence by family members might have incest be a PTSD trigger. And so on.

This might sound like some rare occasional thing, but keep in mind that 1 in 6 american women are rape victims. The number goes up even more when we're talking about LGBT people (1 in 5 lesbians, and 1 in 2 bisexual women, if I'm not mistaken). And rape's just one form of violence, there are several more which can be equally damaging to your mental health.

We use trigger warnings in order not to hurt the people who have already been through too much. I think you'll agree with me that this is a more important cause than preventing spoilers.

Is it possible to see how many people have viewed a specific story? (I mean, apart from that "Most read this week" on the homepage). I just wanna know how many people I'm reaching with my subliminal communist messages.

If the story is good, you should experience the entire of it, not just the plot.

Unfortunately, most, if not all, of genre fiction relies heavily on plot as opposed to other aspects of the storytelling. Other stories simply lose a lot of their punch once you're spoiled.

I think a lot of stories are like that. It's ok to appreciate the narrative, or the scenarios, or character development, but the plot's what keeps us tied to the story, wanting to know what's going to happen next. So for some of us it's a lot less fun if you already know what's coming up. (But I'm not talking about the tags here, I'm with Nez and the others in that everything should be properly tagged, despite spoilers).

last edited at Jun 30, 2018 3:10PM

Wait, lmao, am I reading this wrong, or did Rei just reveal that she first asked out her now-long term boyfriend because they were having so much casual sex with each other that not being a couple was getting awkward? Like, the conversation was about initial confessions, she "wanted to take the ambiguity out of the relationship", and she's not going to talk about how they "were doing it without being official"? She's not just talking about being particularly cosy buddies, is she?

It's safe to assume that Rei was being physical with Hiro before dating similar to Yuu & Touko right now. Not sure if sex was involved (it does sound like it tho) but hey, implicit sex scene speculation is more possible now if that's the case. Maybe Rei will spill the beans if Yuu ever decides to tell her about the nature of her relationship with Touko.

Hey, Gudetamago! I missed ya, lass (or fella, dunno).
(by the way, I'm ceciliasol, just new profile, I used to love reading your comments on yagakimi).

This is strange. It looks like an ugly NTR, but I can not feel the stench of infidelity.

Maybe it's because Koito is asexual and always stays stoic.

Yuu never said she was asexual. She might have once believed herself aromantic, but it's been proven a number of times that's she's romatically in love with Touko. I think Yuu's just... Yuu. Like, maybe she's Toukosexual.

Actually, I’m only guessing because it’s fun—we’ve been in such good hands with this author that I’m perfectly content to just wait and see.

Same here.

Here's the thing I'm not completely sure Touko hasn't just replaced one act with another. Something just felt off with her behavior. First off why didn't she tell Yuu she joined the troupe . You would think Yuu would be the first person she went to about it even just about considering it.

My guess is that Touko used to need Yuu in order to hang on back when she was trying to be her sister. Right now, though, it feels like Touko is discovering the world by herself and doesn't need Yuu to hold her hand anymore. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, being self sufficient is an important aspect of healthy relationships, but I do feel Yuu misses being needed by Touko.

Another possibility is Touko is getting caught up in being free from completing her sisters unfinished work and now is unintentionally drifting away from Yuu as she speeds ahead into her new life. This making things awkward for Yuu to be able to confess to Touko now.

I was sure things would go that way, especially after Touko didn't tell Yuu about the theatre troupe, but just then Touko said she loved Yuu once more, and I don't think she was pretending, so I chucked out that hypothesis.

I really doubt that Sayaka is going to try anything based on what she said in this chapter
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/bloom_into_you_ch26#20
Even if she did I don't see it going anywhere because Touko has never indicated that she feels any romantic feelings towards her at all. She has only been interested in Yuu.

I don't think that is right. I think she is saying she was afraid to risk losing having Touko in her life by trying to help Touko and upset her by doing it while then Yuu came along and is willing to take the risk for Touko. She is saying she doesn't have the right to try and stop Yuu from helping Touko in some misguided attempt of keeping the status quo and protect Touko and the current situation. On the very next page she straight out ask Yuu if she loves Touko then states herself that she loves Touko. Basically saying I am her I am your rival but I am not going to be underhanded and also be your enemy. So they officially become both rivals and compatriots when it comes to Touko. Only hitch is Sayako doesn't know of the "relationship" already going on between Yuu and Touko and to what degree it already was at.

I actually read that scene like Ranzo did: Sayaka is aware that Yuu has a relationship with Touko, and she's saying that it would be too dishonest of her to meddle with that after she lost her own chance. Simply put, she was admitting defeat.

But I wouldn't put Sayaka out of the picture just yet. Maybe something does happen between Yuu and Touko (like a fight) and Sayaka sees that as an opportunity to try again with Touko.

Regarding this chapter, the fact that Rei mentions the parents makes me think we'll see Yuu (and maybe Touko too) coming out to her family. I hope so, and I also want a chapter where Yuu goes to Touko's house.

That's an interesting perspective. So far we have only seen Yuu selflessly helping Touko with her issues. Maybe this time Yuu will have to face her own confrontations, and Touko is going to be there to support her.

I don't think you need to hide your comment, is all speculations and the chapter 33 has been uploaded here already.

Yep, my bad, I didn't see that 33 was up already.

Also no, she won't die! what the heck... Maybe Sayaka will die

hahahahahahahaa

My first impressions on this chapter: OMG SO SWEET I LOVE YAGAKIMI THIS ART IS BEAUTIFUL AS ALWAYS OOO

My second, more elaborate, impressions:

So, we got from the end of chapter 32 that Yuu's definitely thinking on confessing to Touko, and this one reinforces that. It's really sweet to know Yuu's dad would be ok with having a lesbian daughter,, and it's wonderful that Rei would be on Yuu's side on this. We're all worried about Yuu's confession not being accepted, but as it is right now, I do believe it would be. Touko has changed.

Overall, I have a feeling that there needs to be created more conflict in order to build another arc of the story, because as it is now things just turned out alright: The entire conflict about Touko wanting to become her sister is turning towards resolution, so either we get another plot element being thrown in to cause drama, or Yuu's gonna confess right away and the story will end in a couple of chapters with a happy ending.

Maybe Sayaka could be the tension point? What if she confesses to Touko before Yuu does and the two of them start officially dating? Or maybe Touko will die and Yuu will never be able to tell her her feelings. No? Too dark?

I'd very much like to hear what everyone thinks will happen in the next chapters.

Jirian13, please use spoiler tags on your comment, since chapter 33 is not on Dynasty yet. (You do it by surrounding the spoiler with two = on each side, like this).

Everyone, 4s has released Chapter 33, check it out.

I've loved this story for years, and honestly until seeing the forum I had no idea it was on hiatus. I think the last chapter wraps it up somewhat nicely, because the only possible outcome here is Miho and Fuuka being together, so it's not like the story feels incomplete.

I'd love to see more of it, though.

last edited at Jun 30, 2018 6:57AM

if anyone has links to buy it online i'll be glad to buy and provide raws

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%81%AB%E3%83%84%E3%83%90%E3%82%B5-2%E5%B7%BB-%E3%81%BE%E3%82%93%E3%81%8C%E3%82%BF%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A0KR%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E3%83%A2%E3%83%AD%E3%82%84%E3%82%93-ebook/dp/B00JUCH6QA/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

This is the second volume on Amazon. Physical copy is ridiculously pricey, but the Kindle edition seems affordable.

I wholeheartedly agree with the above comment (about the tags thing.)

last edited at Jun 30, 2018 6:40AM