Well she's accusing her of cheating, but we don't know if she's cheating or not at this point. It still could turn out that she's not, but adding tag would ruin that suspension. This way you can still read it hoping it'll turn out she was telling the truth about not cheating (and she was).

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Well class S and dating and experimenting with other girls in high school etc. being k and even encouraged, but once you graduate you're supposed to "grow out of it" and grow up to become a proper straight adult is (or at least was) a thing in Japan. Dating other women is somehow supposed to give you experience before real world (aka dating men), so I suppose that's where their mind-set comes from.

I like your new avatar xP

https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Fate/Grand_Order_Wikia is the best and the only one that seems to be keeping up to date.

Also after FGO update again ruined emulators I stopped using Nox. Now I play on https://www.bluestacks.com/ every since I installed it never once there was issue with it, so it seems it's update-proof.

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AkinomaHNU posted:

Technically speaking, Yanderes ARE mentally ill. That's what the "yan" part means after all.

I was thinking more, yandere by itself isn't a specific illness. You can technically behave like yandere without having any deep or big issues, so by itself calling someone yandere doesn't mean they're ill, but I guess in practice in order to become a true yandere you need to have some sort of strong trauma.

Tyrswed posted:

Unless she's supposed to be manipulating sociopath or something I'm not sure what it had to do with mental illness.

Mistranslation, probably. It probably said something about yandere or something.

I mean. It's supposed to be "Original Mental Illness Girls Love Anthology". Being Yandere isn't exactly a illness.

Unless she's supposed to be manipulating sociopath or something I'm not sure what it had to do with mental illness.

Inai hou ga ii ningen posted:

Why does it feel like this is a regression of Neji's work. Like when you go back and look at the quality of story telling and art in their past works the difference is astonishing.

Because it's actually their oldest work. It was made in 2016.

I finished shop as well (stuff I cared about anyway) and was also surprised how fast it was. I did it pretty much on natural ap.

NP5: Umu, Ibaraki, TamaCat, Carmilla
NP4: Emiya, D'eon, Nobuzerk

First of all, when people say "realism" what they actually mean is "believable". No manga, even the best written one, is actually "realistic". In fact you don't want any manga to be fully realistic, because it'd be boring to read. What you want is for setting and characters to be believable, so it won't break your willing suspension of disbelief and ruin your enjoyment from the story. So yes, arguing about realism in manga with vampires is silly.

Second, you're acting as if all authors had some kind of obligation or duty to explore themes of their settings etc. when in fact, they can write about whatever they feel like. Just because they got vampires in their story, doesn't mean they have to put any focus on them or whatever else you expect them to do. If they just want to write silly, lighthearted romance with monster girl, that's what they'll write about, which brings me to...

Third, when people say don't like it, don't read it, they don't mean you're not allowed to be critical about work. What they mean is that there's a clear difference between criticizing something and just not liking it. You're focusing too much on things you want the story to be about instead of what story actually is about. Commenting about execution etc. and things that are here could be interesting, but simply complaining about things that aren't here and you don't like it because of it, serves no one. After reading first chapter, you didn't like this story and that's fine, but then going to forum and saying how author should write completely different story to satisfy your expectation is not being critical.

And forth, you keep calling her chuunibyou as if half of the vampire stories didn't portray vampires as edgy and mysterious. I mean, someone who is chuunibyou pretends to be something they're not, having super powers, being different species etc. She's a freaking vampire. If anything, she has a free pass to act like that, because she actually is special. She's even specialer, because she's a rare breed. And just in case, complaining about her being a rare mutation as if it was something new or unique to this story to make her more "chuunibyou" (as if she came up with it herself and wasn't just born like that) when most of vampire stories are all about and full of unique or rare powers and bloodlines being like the most important aspect of vampires mythos. Also a vampire wearing a hoodie? Sunlight anyone? Well I don't think it affects her in this setting, but she could still be averse to it or direct sunlight could have negative effects on her. Or, idk, she just like to dress like that.

All in all, you're complaining about things that you personally simply don't like in this story.

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She got bitten and lost conscious. I think blood lose could make anyone more willing to believe that other girl is a vampire. Also according to spoilers she's a monster too, so that would make her quicker to believe as well. Ignoring the fact you're complaining about realism in manga with vampires...

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Yea, that's what I meant with last line. As average looking she might had that ego, but not the looks to back it up, so now that she has the looks, she can act the way she always felt before, but couldn't due to fearing of people saying she doesn't deserve to act like that. Her faking her confidence is partially true though, since at least in the part of her episode story when she went to Emily for advice, I believe it was straight said that she acted confident to actually hid her insecurities and that's what she wanted to get advice from Emiri for, but didn't want anyone to see her, because being seen going for advice, would imply perfect Ria is in fact, not perfect.

Nah, she just has a incredible ego. All she wished for was being natural born beauty. If anything she might have been more aware before, but becoming stunningly beautiful actually lowered her self-awareness and boosted her ego. I think it's because after making a wish, Kyuubey rewrote reality so she was always pretty and everyone around her remember her like that, but she herself does not and so she has no life time of experience actually being so pretty, so she might have actually act so over the top and put such act to hid her lack of confidence. There's also the fact that because of her own lack of experience she probably thinks that's how person who would grow up naturally beautiful and praised constantly, would turn out to be, though still her sense of superiority and perfectness is still overdoing it way too much and it's probably something that used to be constantly suppressed, when she looked average, but now that she's beautiful, it started to grown freely and never stopped.

Sakura Cartelet posted:

FGO has managed to cut down the random/pointless battles in their main stories so not every section has or needs a battle, so I don't see why this game can't either.

Remember that they only started doing it after they tried to do something different with Babylonia singularity (and failed miserably), which was first to introduce 0 ap quests on regular basis outside of epilogue quests. Before that they always tried to find a way to add some plot related fight before it and even after that, they still in general try to add battles wherever possible. MR can't really do it because like 90% of it story is just dialogue and there's no fights. They can't cut out battles completely, because then it's no longer mobile game and if they wanted to actually give in story reasons for battles, they'd need to change plot significantly. Simply FGO as a franchise much more focused on fights is more suited for that kind of mobile and visual novel gameplay mix than Madoka.

Veya posted:

I actually have a specific opinion about the way FGO handles it, and I my perception is that cutting down on "pointless" battles is ultimately a bad thing, at least to me personally, FGO has the habit of stringing extremely long dialogue scenes in 0 AP nodes, sometimes 30 minutes worth of reading in one shot.

My friend really complains about all those "pointless" and repeating battles, but at least there they try to tie fights to story, MR seems to not give a fuck 90% of the time. And honestly I agree that in the end it's better to have those random fights, for variety of reason. After all we're playing mobile game, not visual novel. And yea, while story can be pretty funny/engaging they do sometimes go overboard with length, especially in those 0 AP ones.

this was particularly notable in Salem(which I also hated story wise but this is not the place to discuss that), with no breaks between scenes.

Oh yea, I definitely think that Salem was wasted potential and for the most part very painful to go through. Shimousa and Agartha were the best sub-singularities imo and half of Shinjuku was great and half was waste potential and plot that doesn't make sense.

Sakura Cartelet posted:

@Veya If it's more SoL wouldn't it be better to simply eliminate (or make an alternate version) all gameplay and make it a pure visual novel instead of a hybrid game like it currently is? Besides the current way of interrupting the story sequences to fight battles against enemies that pose no challenge to a leveled team just so you can get back to reading the story isn't much better than what FGO does.

They can't because it's gacha game first, not visual novel. If you could implement gacha in visual novel, I bet they would do it already. The main reason is selling waifus. Story is secondary and the easiest and most familiar to otaku way of presenting it is a visual novel style, so that's what they're doing, but it's not and never will be a proper visual novel. It's more of a means to a end and a way to tell a story, so you shouldn't focus on presentation too much. As I said, they need to give you fights, because that's the main gameplay of the game. Is it lazy and could be done better/more interesting? Probably, but that's what we're stuck with and it's not going to change anytime soon.

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Well contrary to common believe just because something is popular or considered classic, doesn't mean everyone saw it. Also there are people who got born after it was created or were too young to watch it when it was popular, so those people would most likely watch something what was popular when they were teens rather than something older fans remember and liked. They could simply not be interested in watching it at the time as well.

I solo'd Izo. He was kinda easy.

To be fair, if they did that, there would be barely any battles and not just in events, but in main story as well. So while it doesn't really make sense story wise, I understand why they put them in there. It's kinda necessary evil. It's still gacha game after all and that's the main gameplay.

I kinda feel it was pretty average ending. I mean it's not bad I guess (outside of cliche, they get split for x years to reunite later), but especially for age gap, that kind of meeting up again when younger is a proper adult is pretty common and I don't feel like this story really give it any bigger or different twist than usually. If anything it's less explicit that they'll be totally dating now like in similar works. Honestly I was 100% more interested in seeing how they'll be solving their issues and figuring out their relationship while leaving together, rather than being show everything is now fine with time skip.

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Veya posted:

We do have a handful though they are all directly related to megucas, Tsuruno's father(who actually does appear in this event), Karin's grandmother, Hayato(Aimi's not-boyfriend), Tsukasa's father and his students including Take, just to name a few

Yes, I didn't mean there's no important characters outside of megucas. In fact that's exactly what I meant by "But yea, not giving any actual sprites to non-meguca characters, really hurts story in many places." Cos there are some character who totally should have their own sprite, but they don't, so to players they appear as not important or forgettable because they have generic, non distinctive sprites. And even some events etc. where they add character that's clearly important in the moment, has generic sprite, hence any impact they could leave or add is automatically removed. I'd argue because they gave Yu semi-unique sprite that's the only reason people even paid attention to her or remember her, the few details it does include automatically made her vastly more memorable and interesting. Even FGO as much as they love to reuse few generic sprites they have, do make completely unique new sprites for characters that are important, even if just for 1 event or story.

and we could have them appear instead on occasion, but I also feel it's just not... interesting? part of the thing is that this is a gacha, and there is the perspective from the developers that the viewers would rather see Aimi making a cameo than to have Hayato appear, as an example, specially in goofier, SoL events like this

Oh I totally understand that too, but then you kinda contradict your point by adding this

while in more serious events we get more random, nameless people, like Breakpoint and Hereafter.

Which is exactly the point I was making and your defense of "it's gacha, they want to promote character and you rather see cameos with familiar characters", fails flat when you have more serious story and need new characters to tell it, but then give 0 fucks about those characters, which in proxy also give players 0 reason to give fuck to those characters as well. I'm not saying replace all those megucas in this event with new 1 off characters, it make sense everyone is on the beach during summer. But it's still a fact they overrely on them, exactly because they're actual characters and not cardboard cut outs that nobody will remember about after the event and actually trying to make them more memorable would be money and effort they clearly don't feel like putting.

For what is worth, Yu does have a unique design, her L2D model is unique to her despite not being detailed, and her meguca form is detailed enough to give you a rough perspective to how she should look, even if still not detailed.

That's why I said "though at least Yu had unique generic sprite (as much sense as it makes)."

Part of the thing is that Yu's story is DoroInu's pet project and you'd need her to want Yu to be playable for it to happen at all...

I wasn't only talking about Yu, cos there were other megucas without sprites, even semi-unique ones. About DoroInu's pet project I'm honestly not sure what I'm supposed to comment you about meta stuff like that. Especially stuff like "not wanting them to be playable" when we're talking about gacha.

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Serenata posted:

WAKE UP!!!! Vampire yuri anime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu4JihIl-7c Vlad Love now has a real trailer and Oh Em Gi, it looks crazy and so well made

Hopefully it won't get axed after 3 volumes...

Joking aside, did not expect that music xD Also looks pretty wacky. Hard to tell how much I'll like it based on trailer, but the least you can say about it, it's definitely not your typical generic high school CGDCS SoL anime.

Veya posted:

Though to be frank, I prefer to have other characters appear, we don't actually have a ton of non-Meguca relevant characters in first place

I'm pretty sure we don't have them, exactly because of that rule, so for (most) story important character, they rely on other megucas, exactly because they already have sprites made for those and don't need to create new ones for new characters. I know the main drive and story revolves around megucas, but that doesn't mean that only relevant characters should be megucas. Especially since compare to OG series, it really kinda feels forced when you realize just how many megucas there is in just 1 city. I mean, I know you might argue Mitakihara was a exception, but most people would be familiar with it first and it gave you more idea that megucas are rather on low number rather than 50+ you get in Kamihama alone.

SuperText posted:

And not even all of them. I'd like to see what Yusa Yumeno actually looks like. Scratch that, I'd like to see her as a playable unit.

Yea, there's also the issue of few rare megucas that appear that still don't have sprites, though at least Yu had unique generic sprite (as much sense as it makes). I totally understand why they did it that way though. Because in order to give them actual sprites, they'd need to design them and if they did, then some people would inevitably like them and want to roll them, so then there would be exception that they'd add them to the game sooner or later. Then again, people still want Yu to be added as playable meguca and to roll for her so. But yea, not giving any actual sprites to non-meguca characters, really hurts story in many places.

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Mirabelle2020 posted:

Hey... i just wanna ask... if kids that made by using non-scientifc method but also non-biological, for example like "magic"
would that counts as "non-scientific" baby too ??

No. Magic babies count as science babies.

Mirabelle2020 posted:

i really did think Dynasty Scans was only Yuri-focus... until just recently found some Het and Yaoi too...

Well it's yuri-focus, but it's not yuri-exclusive. I think when it used to be a scanlation group as well, they only scanlated yuri though.

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riverFlower posted:

I can't believe Mitama showed up. Was not expecting her at all.

To be fair because of the stupid rule of only megucas have sprites (Mameji best meguca, can't wait when they'll release him) unless they'd fill event with randoms, which isn't really ideal if you want players to actually give any fuck about them, they really need to use other megucas, and once first few appeared in first part as background characters, I knew we'll pretty much see everyone sooner or later.